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Re: A View As To Why We Are So Miserable And Unhappy.

Unread postby WildRose » Wed 30 Apr 2008, 12:40:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'I')f you work doing something you generally enjoy, then you're better off (although probably not better paid...but that is another story).

I'm a freelance writer and I'll be a teacher for a kids recreation class in a couple of weeks, too.

I like writing and playing. I'm not particularly good at anything else. I dabble in illustration. I'm trying to get into writing children's books, but I'm not the fluffy bunny sort of author/illustrator...so that probably won't ever happen LOL:

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Work is fine for keeping busy, but I think I'd pull a Hemmingway if I had to be a pencil pushing cube-farm resident.


Cool illustrations, charliebrownout. My daughter has grown up drawing as a hobby, has done a bit of work illustrating pamphlets. I've always thought I'd enjoy writing kids' books.
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Re: A View As To Why We Are So Miserable And Unhappy.

Unread postby FreakOil » Wed 30 Apr 2008, 12:50:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FourOfSwords', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m not understanding why you are still cursed if Christ died for your sins....


It's just a story Ludi, keke. Used here to get across the feeling of "We asked for it", some sweet guilt there.

I realized things were effed up when I found out in an anthropology elective that the Dobe Kung (I think) work an average of 24 hours per week and survive, and I haven't seen less than a 50 hour week for years.

The !Kung! are pretty wise...as for the rest of us, well...
“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?”
—Charles Bukowski
...but it's a living.


Thank you for this quote. I've always despised lazy people, and I'm sure a lot of people here do to. There are a lot of things that are worth doing right now. Studying permaculture? Yes! Learning a new skill? Yes! But getting up and going to your useless office job so you can pay taxes to a government that will spend them bombing brown people?

I simply cannot look a man in the eye and tell him that he should go to a job that does more harm than good to the world. Nevermind that it's completely useless, it's probably destructive.

My most recent job, which I had until my company closed down last week, involved writing press releases for major corporations. I probably shouldn't say who, but the name of one of our clients begins with the letter "M" and ends with "cDonald's." Should I really be helping them sell the stuff they sell?

I don't think I want another job like that. I have some money in savings, and I'm considering taking a permaculture "internship." (I have to pay for room and board, but it's really cheap.) This may not be the best Peak survival option, but it may lead to something. At least I'll be able to grow my own food in the future. Hopefully that future won't involve enabling corporations to do more damage to people's health and the environment.
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Re: A View As To Why We Are So Miserable And Unhappy.

Unread postby FreakOil » Wed 30 Apr 2008, 14:01:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'I')f you work doing something you generally enjoy, then you're better off (although probably not better paid...but that is another story). I'm a freelance writer and I'll be a teacher for a kids recreation class in a couple of weeks, too.

We have a few things in common. I'm going back to freelancing while (probably) taking a permaculture course. I worked as a freelancer before while teaching English to little children. I love working with kids. It's very rewarding. I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time. Those are some nice paintings, by the way. There's freelance illustration work out there. That's what my sister does.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd it's funny, but even most women these days think mothers should work full-time, as if they didn't have enough to do!

Excellent points, WildRose. My sister is working as a freelance artist now so she can home-school her children. My brother-in-law has flexible hours, so he can help out as well. I admire them for taking a different approach to doing things. Most people never even consider doing something out of the ordinary, even if it would make their lives better.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 's')ymptomatic of a fallen culture... workin' for stuff becomes more important than raising your own kids. period. no discussion necessary wankers.

Raphael just called us wankers even though we agree with him. You just can't catch a break with this guy. :roll:
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Re: A View As To Why We Are So Miserable And Unhappy.

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 30 Apr 2008, 14:18:07

I'm lazy as all get-out. Despise me! :)

Europeans despised native peoples because they were "lazy" and just sat around a lot of the time. They didn't need to work harder, so they didn't. So they were rounded up and forced to work.
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Re: A View As To Why We Are So Miserable And Unhappy.

Unread postby FreakOil » Wed 30 Apr 2008, 14:31:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m lazy as all get-out. Despise me! :)

Europeans despised native peoples because they were "lazy" and just sat around a lot of the time. They didn't need to work harder, so they didn't. So they were rounded up and forced to work.


That's a good point, Ludi. I guess I have yet to get over my Anglo-American upbringing. I always feel like I should be doing something "productive." I took a step in the right direction today. I went fishing on a weekday! :-D

When I was visiting Malaysia recently, I noticed the locals have a tendency to take things easy. It may have something to do with the tropical weather. They don't move very quickly, and transport is always late. But who cares? There was always someone friendly around to chat with.

I don't think they've adapted well to the modern world of production and efficiency. The Chinese, ever the busybodies, control 60-70% of the wealth in the country, even though they're a minority.

I think we have to learn to be a little more like the Malaysians. Of course, it's always easier to take it easy when tropical fruit just falls right in your lap every day.
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Re: A View As To Why We Are So Miserable And Unhappy.

Unread postby FourOfSwords » Wed 30 Apr 2008, 18:36:54

We need to ask: "What is deeply meaningful to me? What matters to me enough to devote the energy and time of my life to it?"
...so miserable and unhappy?...I have no money, no resources, no hopes. I am the happiest man alive. :)
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Re: A View As To Why We Are So Miserable And Unhappy.

Unread postby FourOfSwords » Wed 30 Apr 2008, 18:41:05

This poem(my favorite) ties in work and freedom:
The Vagabond
Give to me the life I love,
Let the lave go by me,
Give the jolly heaven above
And the byway nigh me.
Bed in the bush with stars to see,
Bread I dip in the river -
There's the life for a man like me,
There's the life for ever.

Let the blow fall soon or late,
Let what will be o'er me;
Give the face of earth around
And the road before me.
Wealth I seek not, hope nor love,
Nor a friend to know me;
All I seek, the heaven above
And the road below me.

Or let autumn fall on me
Where afield I linger,
Silencing the bird on tree,
Biting the blue finger.
White as meal the frosty field -
Warm the fireside haven -
Not to autumn will I yield,
Not to winter even!

Let the blow fall soon or late,
Let what will be o'er me;
Give the face of earth around,
And the road before me.
Wealth I ask not, hope nor love,
Nor a friend to know me;
All I ask, the heaven above
And the road below me.

by Robert Louis Stevenson
...living like this one day, I will not be so miserable or unhappy
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Re: A View As To Why We Are So Miserable And Unhappy.

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 30 Apr 2008, 18:45:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')Europeans despised native peoples because they were "lazy" and just sat around a lot of the time. They didn't need to work harder, so they didn't. So they were rounded up and forced to work.


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Re: A View As To Why We Are So Miserable And Unhappy.

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 30 Apr 2008, 19:07:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')Europeans despised native peoples because they were "lazy" and just sat around a lot of the time. They didn't need to work harder, so they didn't. So they were rounded up and forced to work.


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