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What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby charliebrownout » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 21:56:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Czw3Y_ARE

I don't read the AZ Repub much (stick to AP, BBC Intl, Reuters, etc., Catholic Sun, and the local neighborhood news).

I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm sure there have been end-timers who missed the mark throughout history, but it just seems like there is a preponderance of evidence cropping up one after the other in the last few years (weeks even). Besides, University professors aren't your average sandwich-board wearer.

Sorry, I'm around A LOT right now. Does anyone recall the Southpark after 9/11 when the one mom just sits on the couch muttering and watching CNN all day? Well, that's kind of like me right now, only without CNN.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby BigTex » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 22:01:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'h')ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Czw3Y_ARE

I don't read the AZ Repub much (stick to AP, BBC Intl, Reuters, etc., Catholic Sun, and the local neighborhood news).

I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm sure there have been end-timers who missed the mark throughout history, but it just seems like there is a preponderance of evidence cropping up one after the other in the last few years (weeks even). Besides, University professors aren't your average sandwich-board wearer.

Sorry, I'm around A LOT right now. Does anyone recall the Southpark after 9/11 when the one mom just sits on the couch muttering and watching CNN all day? Well, that's kind of like me right now, only without CNN.


One of the things that will occur to you sooner or later is "if this peak oil thing has been out there all this time and I didn't know about it, I wonder what other big things are out there that I don't know about."

That can rattle you a little.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby charliebrownout » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 22:07:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'h')ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Czw3Y_ARE

I don't read the AZ Repub much (stick to AP, BBC Intl, Reuters, etc., Catholic Sun, and the local neighborhood news).

I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm sure there have been end-timers who missed the mark throughout history, but it just seems like there is a preponderance of evidence cropping up one after the other in the last few years (weeks even). Besides, University professors aren't your average sandwich-board wearer.

Sorry, I'm around A LOT right now. Does anyone recall the Southpark after 9/11 when the one mom just sits on the couch muttering and watching CNN all day? Well, that's kind of like me right now, only without CNN.


One of the things that will occur to you sooner or later is "if this peak oil thing has been out there all this time and I didn't know about it, I wonder what other big things are out there that I don't know about."

That can rattle you a little.


Oh, yeah, it is. I've always been one to pay attention, but I guess not closely enough. I don't know. I just can't get over the fact of food riots in the world, housing bust, wars obviously over oil, and 117 a barrel and the effing news stations are talking more about Rob Lowe's nanny and the latest political gaffe of X candidate. WTF???????
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby BigTex » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 22:58:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'h')ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Czw3Y_ARE

I don't read the AZ Repub much (stick to AP, BBC Intl, Reuters, etc., Catholic Sun, and the local neighborhood news).

I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm sure there have been end-timers who missed the mark throughout history, but it just seems like there is a preponderance of evidence cropping up one after the other in the last few years (weeks even). Besides, University professors aren't your average sandwich-board wearer.

Sorry, I'm around A LOT right now. Does anyone recall the Southpark after 9/11 when the one mom just sits on the couch muttering and watching CNN all day? Well, that's kind of like me right now, only without CNN.


One of the things that will occur to you sooner or later is "if this peak oil thing has been out there all this time and I didn't know about it, I wonder what other big things are out there that I don't know about."

That can rattle you a little.


Oh, yeah, it is. I've always been one to pay attention, but I guess not closely enough. I don't know. I just can't get over the fact of food riots in the world, housing bust, wars obviously over oil, and 117 a barrel and the effing news stations are talking more about Rob Lowe's nanny and the latest political gaffe of X candidate. WTF???????


Another reality that will sink in is the news is not the news, it's just entertainment. That's all. It's not that it's the news AND entertainment, it's literally JUST entertainment--fictional accounts loosely based upon factual events.

Part of the reason for the news being lacking in meaningful content is that journalists are not experts in anything, they're just storytellers. And what do you see SO much of on the "news" today? Journalists interviewing other journalists.

Have you ever personally witnessed something and then seen the news coverage of it, and how off-base and inaccurate it usually is? It's that way with everything.

My point is a little tired, but it's worth making as a reminder.

Where a lot of people see conspiracies everywhere they look, I tend just to see lazy ignorance and cynicism in the mainstream media.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 00:29:39

Damn, I am transferring schools and going to go study under this guy.

That was a great video find, thank you so much for posting.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby WildRose » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 00:31:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'h')ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Czw3Y_ARE

I don't read the AZ Repub much (stick to AP, BBC Intl, Reuters, etc., Catholic Sun, and the local neighborhood news).

I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm sure there have been end-timers who missed the mark throughout history, but it just seems like there is a preponderance of evidence cropping up one after the other in the last few years (weeks even). Besides, University professors aren't your average sandwich-board wearer.

Sorry, I'm around A LOT right now. Does anyone recall the Southpark after 9/11 when the one mom just sits on the couch muttering and watching CNN all day? Well, that's kind of like me right now, only without CNN.


I've seen and read similar interviews from various people over the last few years. The future as described by that professor is pretty grim, but who really knows what will happen? I prefer to believe that people are adaptable if they need to be. Things could be a little crazy for a while and some things about our lives much more challenging, but I think when it comes down to it, most folks will want to adapt to change for the sake of keeping families and communities intact. I believe that it's our government leaders and powerful corporations that we need to be most wary of.

BTW, I do remember that Southpark episode, and I can relate to the character on the couch. After 9/11, I was really freaked out for a while, thinking there was no way Bush would let that go by without a huge retaliation, and things would snowball...I was glued to the tube. I mean, they hit the Pentagon, for #@c^'s sake! Anyway, we all know what's transpired since then, we can formulate our own best guess about what really happened and what didn't, but we really can't predict the future with 100% accuracy. There are a lot of variables.

Maybe I've become a bit complacent, but things don't scare me as much as they used to. Just do what you can to improve your own situation, charliebrownout.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 01:01:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'h')ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Czw3Y_ARE

I don't read the AZ Repub much (stick to AP, BBC Intl, Reuters, etc., Catholic Sun, and the local neighborhood news).

I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm sure there have been end-timers who missed the mark throughout history, but it just seems like there is a preponderance of evidence cropping up one after the other in the last few years (weeks even). Besides, University professors aren't your average sandwich-board wearer.

Sorry, I'm around A LOT right now. Does anyone recall the Southpark after 9/11 when the one mom just sits on the couch muttering and watching CNN all day? Well, that's kind of like me right now, only without CNN.


One of the things that will occur to you sooner or later is "if this peak oil thing has been out there all this time and I didn't know about it, I wonder what other big things are out there that I don't know about."

That can rattle you a little.


I actually had the "I wonder what other big things are out there that I don't know about" epiphany when I was 11. I've been happily unhinged ever since. :lol:
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 01:09:06

Big Tex, I can absolutely guarantee you that there is conscious suppression of information, purposeful angling, and that journalists have stories spiked for political reasons, all the time. My brother is in the media, so I get first hand accounts. What happens is lazy doofus "team players" end up dominating, in journalism because they have been selected for those traits. It's easier that way.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 01:30:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'B')ig Tex, I can absolutely guarantee you that there is conscious suppression of information, purposeful angling, and that journalists have stories spiked for political reasons, all the time. My brother is in the media, so I get first hand accounts. What happens is lazy doofus "team players" end up dominating, in journalism because they have been selected for those traits. It's easier that way.


I agree with you.

I was thinking more about the way Simmons will go on CNBC and they will happily go back and forth with him about peak oil, and it's clear they really don't know WTF he's even talking about.

I think, though, that a lot of the manipulation you describe is done with an eye toward creating manufactured storylines and more entertainment value. There are dark forces in the mix too, though; I'm with you on that.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 01:37:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'B')ig Tex, I can absolutely guarantee you that there is conscious suppression of information, purposeful angling, and that journalists have stories spiked for political reasons, all the time. My brother is in the media, so I get first hand accounts. What happens is lazy doofus "team players" end up dominating, in journalism because they have been selected for those traits. It's easier that way.


I agree with you.

I was thinking more about the way Simmons will go on CNBC and they will happily go back and forth with him about peak oil, and it's clear they really don't know WTF he's even talking about.

I think, though, that a lot of the manipulation you describe is done with an eye toward creating manufactured storylines and more entertainment value. There are dark forces in the mix too, though; I'm with you on that.


The major networks are owned by corporations who are also major defense contractors, like GE. So that's a major consideration.

Canada, btw, has more media consolidation than the U.S. It's a nightmare.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby Narz » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 05:55:24

Great vid. I reposted it in this thread, thanks! :)
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby shakespear1 » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 06:35:53

Here is an article that if read to the end will give a picture that there are people out there TRYING to do the RIGHT thing. However the ones with a bigger stick win in the end.

Enjoy

The Green Light

We could argue that perhaps this article is not showing the real picture. I say lets give VANITY FAIR the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 08:42:40

After 9/11, we all wanted Jack Bauer to sort this out for us. Looks like he did. All of us tend to wink at the Constitution when the target of the investigation is somebody we do not like. There in lies the danger for all of us.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby FreakOil » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 14:27:09

That guy hit the nail right on the head at the end. Peak Oil is our saviour. It will shut down the cars, planes and machines of industry that would otherwise doom all of humanity and the rest of the natural environment to hell. I may not survive the calamities ahead, but I take solace in the fact that some of you will go on to live and love.

That's why I've chosen JPL's words of wisdom for my sig line.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 15:26:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', 'T')hat guy hit the nail right on the head at the end. Peak Oil is our saviour. It will shut down the cars, planes and machines of industry that would otherwise doom all of humanity and the rest of the natural environment to hell. I may not survive the calamities ahead, but I take solace in the fact that some of you will go on to live and love.

That's why I've chosen JPL's words of wisdom for my sig line.


Totally agree. People who propose a no-carbon techno fix that provides easy access to unlimited supplies of cheap energy, don't understand that a reduced carbon footprint, equals an increased potential for destruction of natural eco-systems, by purely mechanical means.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby Kingcoal » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 17:08:29

Well, maybe it won't be so bad. Maybe I can find a comfy cot in a FEMA camp somewhere and get a bowl of soup a day... He's dead on. Production probably will decrease at the rate he's talking about and people will never comprehend what's going on until it's too late.

On the other hand, 70% of the world's oil is burned up in engines. If we reduce that number even a little bit, it buys us some time. However we will be working against the clock. We will have to keep reducing consumption in tandem with the downward slope of a bell curve and that's exponential. There are simply too many mouths to feed... FEMA camp, here I come.
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Re: What to make of this guy from the U of A

Unread postby charliebrownout » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 18:19:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'W')ell, maybe it won't be so bad. Maybe I can find a comfy cot in a FEMA camp somewhere and get a bowl of soup a day... He's dead on. Production probably will decrease at the rate he's talking about and people will never comprehend what's going on until it's too late.

On the other hand, 70% of the world's oil is burned up in engines. If we reduce that number even a little bit, it buys us some time. However we will be working against the clock. We will have to keep reducing consumption in tandem with the downward slope of a bell curve and that's exponential. There are simply too many mouths to feed... FEMA camp, here I come.


FEMA has CERT (Community Emergency Response Teams) classes here. At the very least, I plan on getting CPR and Emergency first aid training by the end of the year. These are good skills to have...even if things stay peachy.
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