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Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby mattduke » Tue 25 Mar 2008, 22:37:14

Government subsidizes unemployment and penalizes employment.

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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby 3aidlillahi » Tue 25 Mar 2008, 23:00:52

They say they "can't" work because they have children, yet they acknowledge that they don't care about the decisions their kids make. If you don't work and live off the state, then your kids better be tutored 10 hours a day by you and should be the most polite and well-behaved and respecting children in the country.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')I don't worry about the example I set to my kids or the fact that two of them don't work. It's up to them

what they do, it's their life, not mine, so it's not my problem. I don't think my desire never to work and to live off the state and my husband rubbed off on Steven. He makes his own decisions.

"I'm certainly not angry that Steven doesn't have a job. He's got children, that's his job. And I don't worry that he's setting a bad example to his children - that's up to him."


They should be taken off benefits and never be allowed to receive a single quid or pound or whatever (why can't they just use euros?) from the government ever again while paying taxes till death.

The fall will crush these people, but I'm upset that hundreds of thousands of dollars were wasted on these saps and many of them enjoyed most of their lives off of others.
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby Novus » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 01:49:23

If you think Britain has a problem with dole saps then you should look at the real welfare states in France, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, and Sweden to name a few.
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby bodigami » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 02:03:38

What where you expecting? Our current civilization is just a complex human construct made so that we live as parasites of technology while raping nature... humans can be so digusting [s]some times[/s] basically always...
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby paimei01 » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 04:32:22

It's good that they do not work. In developed countries only 3% work in agriculture, the rest produce useless stuff - destroying the planet

All should stay at home, have free time all day and get only food from the state, no money.
And people should work in agriculture on year of their life it would be enough

What about other stuff ? Simple : home made. And money should be banned, or else people would start it all over again and produce garbage, for money
Maybe it will lead to overpopulation , but I am sure that after the first famine this concept society would find ways to never happen again. Like birth control until the population is lower again
And they will be able to have and clean air, water and everything else
http://paimei01.blogspot.com/
One day there will be so many houses, that people will be bored and will go live in tents. "Why are you living in tents ? Are there not enough homes ?" "Yes there are, but we play this Economy game". Now it's "Crisis" time !Too many houses! Yes, we are insane!
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby Cloud9 » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 07:20:30

When everyone stays home, nothing is produced not even food. What will they eat then, their children? Socialism works as long as it can soak up the sweat equity of producers. When no one produces all will sit down in the dirt and starve.
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby paimei01 » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 07:36:59

The 3 % would produce. Look on CIA fact book and see that in developed countries only 3% of the population works in agriculture and there is food even for export

But what I want to stop is the capitalist economy that is made in such a way that it has to grow, to produce and destroy the environment in the process :

http://www.storyofstuff.com/

I would not mind if everybody would start growing food in a sustainable way like in Cuba, just stop producing garbage
http://paimei01.blogspot.com/
One day there will be so many houses, that people will be bored and will go live in tents. "Why are you living in tents ? Are there not enough homes ?" "Yes there are, but we play this Economy game". Now it's "Crisis" time !Too many houses! Yes, we are insane!
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby FourOfSwords » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 08:50:23

...I say let the bastards keep milking the system, heck lets all do it and bring ths defunct system crashing down quicker! Rage against this machine of civilization!
Of course just my humble and meek opinon... :D
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 08:56:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'G')overnment subsidizes unemployment and penalizes employment.

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I thought you were going to say the Rock-a-fellers......... :razz:
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 08:58:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3aidlillahi', 'T')hey say they "can't" work because they have children, yet they acknowledge that they don't care about the decisions their kids make. If you don't work and live off the state, then your kids better be tutored 10 hours a day by you and should be the most polite and well-behaved and respecting children in the country.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')I don't worry about the example I set to my kids or the fact that two of them don't work. It's up to them

what they do, it's their life, not mine, so it's not my problem. I don't think my desire never to work and to live off the state and my husband rubbed off on Steven. He makes his own decisions.

"I'm certainly not angry that Steven doesn't have a job. He's got children, that's his job. And I don't worry that he's setting a bad example to his children - that's up to him."


They should be taken off benefits and never be allowed to receive a single quid or pound or whatever (why can't they just use euros?) from the government ever again while paying taxes till death.

The fall will crush these people, but I'm upset that hundreds of thousands of dollars were wasted on these saps and many of them enjoyed most of their lives off of others.


Blood in the streets - civil unrest - riots - the problem doesn't go away. Oh, so simple are ye.
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby nocar » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 12:46:10

Novu wrote
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you think Britain has a problem with dole saps then you should look at the real welfare states in France, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, and Sweden to name a few.


Novus, what are you basing that statement on? I do not think I ever have read a story on 'three generation no-workers' here in Sweden. In fact, Sweden has never really paid anybody to be a stay-at-home parent. Support for single mothers and their children has come in the form of subsidized day-care to enable mothers to work, and subsidized housing costs if their income is low. Certainly there could be some individuals who manages to collect social assistance or unemployment benefits (dole) for years (generally in some rural areas with high unemployment) , but they rarely have children.

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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 13:51:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nocar', ' ')Certainly there could be some individuals who manages to collect social assistance or unemployment benefits (dole) for years (generally in some rural areas with high unemployment) , but they rarely have children.


People on the dole in Sweden rarely have children??

What do Swedes do with all their free time when they are on the dole for years, if not indulge in lots of sex and have kids? Do Swedes on welfare sit and watch TV all the time? Or do they watch Bergmann movies and go on long, silent, meditative ski trips in the moonlight?
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby holmes » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 14:48:03

America the beautiful is no more.
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby mikeflecheer » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 15:43:14

There will not be a fourth generation for them, this is the last.
Oil made it all possible until now.
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby mikeflecheer » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 15:45:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'G')overnment subsidizes unemployment and penalizes employment.

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I thought you were going to say the Rock-a-fellers......... :razz:

This is the last generation for everyone, doesn't matter what your name is.

Truely, this is an equal opportunity check out process.
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 15:57:31

Spay and neuter clinics, soylent green, if they refuse.
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby jboogy » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 16:20:44

Those are some attractive genes being passed around, maybe it's better they interact with others as little as possible. I feel evil, and I like it.
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby Fredrik » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 17:46:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'T')he 3 % would produce. Look on CIA fact book and see that in developed countries only 3% of the population works in agriculture and there is food even for export


If the standard of living was the same, why would I bother to be in the productive 3% (or more likely 30%, in a world without fertilizers and pesticides) instead of sitting around home all day? There will have to be some material incentive to activate people. And without a regular day job, a substantial number of people will end up living in a way that is destructive for both themselves and the society as a whole. For the government, employment of frustrated, disillusioned people will be a bigger priority than standard of living itself (as long as the basic needs are met).
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby Ainan » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 18:41:52

Not even 10,000 pages of ranting can express my rage against these kind of people. My mother has looked after me and my brother since i was 3 on her own, working a minimum wage job. I never had anything, i was always the smallest and lightest in the class simply because i never had enough to eat. Not to the level you see in third world nations of course. My mother worked a minimum wage job for 15 years, we first lived in a caravan, then in a 2 room flat, then a 1 bedroom house, sharing a room with my brother while my mum slept on the living room sofa and then on to a real house. My mum worked all the hours under the sun for us, receiving only minimal child benefits and no other help.

All the time she refused to give up and stop working, she would have been given more money than she earned at a job and a free large house with enough rooms for each of us. I am so glad that she sacrificed for us, she learned from her parents the decency of hard work and i am honored to learn it from her.

This country(UK) has been destroyed by the lazy and idle welfare leeches, i will be leaving in two years, hopefully with my family. In the future only the hard working, intelligent and deserving will survive, laziness may pay off right now but hard work pays off for your children.

Now my mother owns her own house, has a high income useful post peak profession and is studying for more qualifications. I'm so proud of my mum! :-D
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Re: Family that hasn't worked for THREE generations

Unread postby paimei01 » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 20:13:39

Golem about capitalism I like this quote the most :
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')When the last tree is cut down, the last fish eaten and the last stream poisoned, you will realize that you cannot eat money." ~ Cree indian proverb


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fredrik', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'T')he 3 % would produce. Look on CIA fact book and see that in developed countries only 3% of the population works in agriculture and there is food even for export


If the standard of living was the same, why would I bother to be in the productive 3% (or more likely 30%, in a world without fertilizers and pesticides) instead of sitting around home all day? There will have to be some material incentive to activate people. And without a regular day job, a substantial number of people will end up living in a way that is destructive for both themselves and the society as a whole. For the government, employment of frustrated, disillusioned people will be a bigger priority than standard of living itself (as long as the basic needs are met).


This shows why the modern society is dead. Besides the people that would work in agriculture, for a period of their life, like serving in the army, the rest would be free to do whatever they want to improve their lives. Build nice homes, build an internet network, and just live
But with no money anywhere, so this system of destruction does not appear again.
People of the past did this and they were happy - they just lived.

People of today you say that they cannot do it for themselves, they need someone to lead them to hire them to make them happy ?
Why did the American Indians live ? Without "careers" they would have been bored to death !
Today's society takes the natural wish of all people to help their neighbors - their tribe, to prove their worth, and transforms it into death itself : "prove your worth but only for you, others are the enemy ! only you matter ! it feels good when you are above them doesn't it ?"
http://paimei01.blogspot.com/
One day there will be so many houses, that people will be bored and will go live in tents. "Why are you living in tents ? Are there not enough homes ?" "Yes there are, but we play this Economy game". Now it's "Crisis" time !Too many houses! Yes, we are insane!
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