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Re: Another Oil price Record

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Re: Another Record

Postby emersonbiggins » Thu 20 Mar 2008, 16:13:04

Oil doesn't seem to like double-digits much anymore - back up @ $101.80/bbl.
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Re: Another Record

Postby Bas » Thu 20 Mar 2008, 16:26:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'O')il doesn't seem to like double-digits much anymore - back up @ $101.80/bbl.


get ready for the "traditional" runup to the summer I'd say.
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Re: Another Record

Postby Revi » Thu 20 Mar 2008, 21:51:55

I wish I could buy my heating oil during these dips. If it gets down to around $90 again I think I'll try to pre-buy.

It didn't stay below $100 for long today!
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Re: Another Record

Postby sameu » Sun 23 Mar 2008, 13:31:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('therealtruth', 'I') wasn't predicting the day to day moves of the market! I'm saying that in the immediate short-term, oil prices are coming down. As you can see, the funds are liquidating. I said this 2 days ago!! I'm telling everyone to stay out of crude oil because the fundamentals in reality isn't strong enought to justify $100 crude, maybe $80 but definitely not $100. Even when you factor in the devaluation of the dollar and the potential risks still out there that might not have been factored into the price, anything above $80 is excessive!


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if this price is not supported by the fundamentals; it soon will drop to whatever price it is that's supported by the fundamentals
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Re: Another Record

Postby emersonbiggins » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 16:53:23

Oil on a $4 tear today, back up to $105.94/bbl.

On a related note, US$ is headed deeper into the abyss - 71.6.
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Re: Another Record

Postby DantesPeak » Wed 26 Mar 2008, 17:41:36

Again I would like to point out that the bottleneck in the worldwide crude oil to oil product consumer delivery system, that production of diesel (or lack thereof) is what’s driving oil prices higher.

Diesel inventories worldwide are still running down, as seen in today’s US inventory report, and apparently some oil traders are starting to figure out that just looking US demand figures for diesel doesn’t give the whole picture of what’s happening throughout the world.

Also the falling value of the dollar has in no small part contributed to the rise in the price of oil in terms of US dollars.
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Re: Another Record

Postby lowem » Mon 07 Apr 2008, 06:32:43

Welcome back to $107 oil. The brief dip below $100 had me worried for a while :lol:
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Re: Another Record

Postby lowem » Mon 07 Apr 2008, 12:17:21

Welcome back to $108, no wait $109, no scratch that, back to $108 oil. Pretty jumpy today.
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Re: Another Record

Postby Zardoz » Mon 07 Apr 2008, 13:33:13

Tapis at $113, Louisiana Sweet at $111:

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Re: Another Record

Postby Zardoz » Mon 07 Apr 2008, 20:59:35

Here's a real shocker:

IEA Chief Energy Economist Birol Says Oil Prices to Stay High

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')orld oil prices are likely to remain high "for many years to come'' as demand increases and national oil companies lack an incentive to increase production, the chief economist of the International Energy Agency said.

"The current drivers of demand are different'' while higher oil prices no longer represent "an incentive'' to produce more oil, Fatih Birol said at a seminar in Brussels today. Resource-rich nations and their national oil companies get enough revenue and see no need to increase production to ease prices, he added.

What a surprising turn of events. And here we were, all thinking the bottom was going to drop out of the oil market any time now. I'm stunned.
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Re: Another Record

Postby Heineken » Mon 07 Apr 2008, 22:32:06

Yeah, the establishment is gradually, quietly abandoning its absurd predictions of a return to $35 oil. The interesting part about the Birol statement is the reference to "many years to come." That departs rather radically from the usual conservatism. At the same time, it begs the question, "What happens after 'many years to come' that magically brings the price back down?"

The answer, of course, is that the price will never ever come back down.

It's all like a weather forecast that goes ludicrously wrong. After the fact, the forecaster usually never refers to it again.
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Re: Another Record

Postby whereagles » Tue 08 Apr 2008, 06:46:45

I guess for an economist $35 oil isn't so far-fetched, on the logics that, all things being equal, "what goes up, must come down".

Point is.. things are NOT equal anymore.
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Re: Another Record

Postby sameu » Tue 08 Apr 2008, 12:27:40

when they nuke china $35 would be possible
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Re: Another Record

Postby Smudger » Tue 08 Apr 2008, 13:25:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('therealtruth', 'I') wasn't predicting the day to day moves of the market! I'm saying that in the immediate short-term, oil prices are coming down. As you can see, the funds are liquidating. I said this 2 days ago!! I'm telling everyone to stay out of crude oil because the fundamentals in reality isn't strong enought to justify $100 crude, maybe $80 but definitely not $100. Even when you factor in the devaluation of the dollar and the potential risks still out there that might not have been factored into the price, anything above $80 is excessive!


therealtruth - you have certainly called the immediate short-term to the penny. WTI c. $108 - could you explain why it is doing exactly the opposite of what you said please. Many thanks best regards Smudger
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Re: Another Record

Postby lowem » Tue 08 Apr 2008, 14:18:26

Shrug. $108 oil is cheap. Go long!
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Re: Another Record

Postby lowem » Wed 09 Apr 2008, 12:30:15

Welcome back to $111 oil.

Welcome back to record-breaking territory.
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Re: Another Record

Postby Armageddon » Wed 09 Apr 2008, 12:34:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lowem', 'W')elcome back to $111 oil.

Welcome back to record-breaking territory.



Why the spike today ? I haven't had a chance to look into it yet.
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Re: Another Record

Postby frankthetank » Wed 09 Apr 2008, 12:38:51

Bad energy report?
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Re: Another Record

Postby DomusAlbion » Wed 09 Apr 2008, 12:40:31

US inventories are down over 3 million when they were expected to be up by 2 million.
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Re: Another Record

Postby joeltrout » Wed 09 Apr 2008, 12:41:56

OIl inventories 5million less than expected. Saudi March output 100,000 less than Feb

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