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Boomer Doomers

Unread postby BigTex » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 18:39:43

If this term has not been coined before, I want to take credit for it.

These will be the people who start retiring en masse in 2012 and will find that as they all liquidate their equities to fund their aging boomer lifestyles at the same time, it will depress the stock market in a serious way.

Peak oil won't help things either.

Nor will the earth pole reversal thing that is going to end the world in December of 2012.

Since this is kind of a whiny bunch to start with (no offense to any peak oil boomer doomers--I'm talking about the OTHER boomer doomers), the post 2012 calamity is going to be especially hard on boomer doomers. I predict that many new psychiatric disorders will be identified in coming years as this group searches for answers for why ALL of their dreams aren't coming true.
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby gnm » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 18:43:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'N')or will the earth pole reversal thing that is going to end the world in December of 2012.


:lol:
I hate it when that happens......


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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 18:45:20

Was thinking of this:

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Perhaps this is more apropos:

Doomer Schooner

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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby BigTex » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 18:58:49

Outside the peak oil refugee camp I met the nicest family passing through:

They were boomer doomers travelling in a Sooners schooner. No sooner had a I spotted the boomer doomers in their Sooners schooner, the youngest dropped his bloomers and gave me a lunar mooner that just about overloaded my tuner.
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 19:11:18

:lol: This thread has the makings of a winnar!
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby Zardoz » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 19:52:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', ':')lol: This thread has the makings of a winnar!

Unless, of course, you're a Boomer Doomer, in which case it's going to be a monumental downer.
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 20:59:21

Take a breath
Take a deep breath now
Take a breath
A deep breath now
Take a breath


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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 22:09:47

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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 22:10:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
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Nor will the earth pole reversal thing that is going to end the world in December of 2012.



Dream on... we won't be that lucky.:p
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby Nicholai » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 23:43:05

How about I call you "The Waiting to be Torched" when I mass all my young compadres together and burn your feet with torches for leaving this planet in such a catastrafuck. I don't care how you respond because it's all in good humor, but seriously, you all deserve it. In a big way. "But you're living the exact same lifestyle as I am and I'm just a powerless old man." Yah I don't buy a drop of that crap. But seriously, you were the most babied generation in all human history, I hope you cherished it.
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 23:45:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'W')as thinking of this:

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Me too! :lol:

An Okie doomer is a Boomer Sooner Doomer!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('efarmer', '&')quot;Taste the sizzling fury of fajita skillet death you marauding zombie goon!"

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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby Zardoz » Wed 19 Mar 2008, 00:10:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nicholai', '.')..But seriously, you were the most babied generation in all human history, I hope you cherished it.

Absolutely. You are 100 percent right. White male American boomers have been the most fortunate demographic group in the history of the human race. The world really was our oyster.

And we knew it, too. How could we not notice? Yer damned right we cherished it. I've had many conversations with my fellow Chosen Ones about it over the years.

We were simply lucky enough to be born in the right place, at the right time, to the right parents. That's all there was to it. We've been reaping the rewards all our lives.
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby BigTex » Wed 19 Mar 2008, 00:39:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nicholai', '.')..But seriously, you were the most babied generation in all human history, I hope you cherished it.

Absolutely. You are 100 percent right. White male American boomers have been the most fortunate demographic group in the history of the human race. The world really was our oyster.

And we knew it, too. How could we not notice? Yer damned right we cherished it. I've had many conversations with my fellow Chosen Ones about it over the years.

We were simply lucky enough to be born in the right place, at the right time, to the right parents. That's all there was to it. We've been reaping the rewards all our lives.


It's even worse than that.

Have you read Strauss and Howe's books "The Fourth Turning" and "Generations"?

Their work on generational conflict and different recurring generational "types" is fascinating. The Boomers are just the latest iteration of a generational "type" that has recurred regularly for the past 500 years.

The thing that is different about this Boomer crop is the ability to steal from the past and the future to satisfy the insatiable desire to indulge every whim today. The ability of a generation to do this has historically been quite limited, but the Boomers have managed to exploit an ancient resource like oil, for example, almost as if all of it must be consumed during their generation. Similarly, see how current government obligations extend almost into infinity for the purpose of KEEPING THE BOOMERS HEALTHY AND ABLE TO BE SUPPORTED WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK--i.e., Medicare and Social Security. How much sense does it make to give an entire generation a pension for life starting at age 62 or 65 when they are projected to live another 30 years when THAT generation has not put away enough money to pay for it? Stated differently, perhaps some of the money to fund these future benefits was put away, but it was then promptly spent on government programs to benefit THEM.

Future generations may not be able to retire at all because they will be paying for the boomers to live one-third of their lives in retirement. That's kind of weird. Think about what the life expectancy was when Social Security was created and how disconnected what we are doing today is from the original plan.

Think about the Roth IRA/Roth 401(k) idea. This gives boomers the opportunity to pay taxes on their future retirement income today (at artificially low rates) and completely escape future higher tax rates that will be necessitated by ALL THE PROMISES THEY MADE TO THEMSELVES WHILE THEY WERE IN POWER LIKE LIFETIME MEDICAL CARE AND LIFETIME GOVERNMENT RETIREMENT INCOME.

It's pretty weird that so few people seem to notice these things. Younger people seem to assume that they will not receive Social Security benefits, even though they pay 6.25% of their pay into the system. Why do they just accept this idea? Why don't they ask more questions about WHY they may not be receiving any benefits.

The Boomers' parents' generation was also pretty good at getting future generations to pay for promises they made to themselves while they were in power.

I heard it described once as "fiscal child abuse." I thought that was pretty funny.
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby Chesire » Wed 19 Mar 2008, 11:06:54

I look at the AARP mailing list like a treasure map. Something to barter or trade with the horde for goods and services. O and all those people with access to your net worth or who can make a good guess. When they are starving and or freezing and enraged they will tell everyone they know that you must have stuff stashed away because they know you are worth x amount.
Enjoy the show I know I will.
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby Quicksilver » Wed 19 Mar 2008, 14:05:33

He who controls the spice controls the universe.

"Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist" – Kenneth Boulding
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 19 Mar 2008, 14:24:25

You're all wrong. My parents who are 78 and 80, often talk about how their generation was the luckiest. They were born just a year or two too late to be drafted in WW2. Though they were lower middle class, they had their own home, had 4 kids, and my mother only worked part time, after we'd finished public school. They had 2 cars and took trips overseas, with the two youngest, too.

Can you say ka ka ka.....ching!!
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Re: Boomer Doomers

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 19 Mar 2008, 15:34:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'Y')ou're all wrong. My parents who are 78 and 80, often talk about how their generation was the luckiest. They were born just a year or two too late to be drafted in WW2. Though they were lower middle class, they had their own home, had 4 kids, and my mother only worked part time, after we'd finished public school. They had 2 cars and took trips overseas, with the two youngest, too.

Can you say ka ka ka.....ching!!


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