[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', ' ')But Tolkein obviously got the picture right. "Industry" is destruction. The story was created in the context of the coming WWII.

[mos6507]

Tolkien was a WWI vet and the experience he had in that war is what filtered into LOTR, especially the carnage of trench warfare.

[gampy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'P')MS wakes up in Hell. Eternity with no one to talk with but Golem! AAAArrrrghhhhh!

[gampy]

This is a really dumb question, but:

I accidently hit "ignore" instead of "quote" on PMS, and I don't know how to "un-ignore" PMS.

Shit! Anyone know how to un-ignore someone? I tried , and just can't seem to figure it out. Could be due to it being St. Patrick's Day, and all the single malt whisky I imbibed, but I don't wish to ignore PMS.

PLZ help?

[gampy]

Just out of curiosity, what books did people here really get off on as kids?

For me it was :

Let's see, I think the first real big book was Foundation, by Isaac Asimov, and Rendevous with Rama by Arthur C. Clark. They were short enough to keep a kid's attention, but fantastic enough not to get bored.

I had been force fed shit like Count of Monte Christo (didn't really appreciate it until I was 18), and Hardy Boys (yawn).

I don't know if anyone is familiar with this guy, but Robertson Davies (a Canadian author) had a real serious influence on me. Read World of Wonders at around 15, and was a real education as to what literature was about. Fuckin' great story to boot.

But Tolkien was a great influence as well. The words just seemed to jump off the page into my mind. Didn't have to struggle to read it. Was very easy and a real pleasure to read. Especially when you are 12. I think he was a better educator in regards to spelling, punctuation, and comprehension than my teachers.

[Madpaddy]

I loved LOTR and the Magician books by Raymond E Feist - almost as good as LOTR imo but kind of a rip off of the idea too like all subsequent fantasy novels. Also loved the Thomas Covenant books, the Marsian Chronicles, Dune books and the Rats Trilogy by James Herbert no relation of Frank

[gampy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'I') loved LOTR and the Magician books by Raymond E Feist - almost as good as LOTR imo but kind of a rip off of the idea too like all subsequent fantasy novels. Also loved the Thomas Covenant books, the Marsian Chronicles, Dune books and the Rats Trilogy by James Herbert no relation of Frank

[gampy]

Jesus Christ, it's 5am here. LOL, what the fuck am I doing sitting in front of a PC?

Questions, questions. I have some music blasting, and a bottle of Scotch in front of me, but I feel edgy for some reason. Was out earlier for St. Patrick's day, and that was nice and all, but ultimately disappointing.

Well, the obvious is my being single, and living alone, but it seems too easy. Some thing has been bugging me and keeping me on edge lately. Can't put my finger on it, but I can guess. This MSM shit about the economy. Maybe? Maybe not. Maybe just cabin fever. It's been a long winter.

Lol, sorry. This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Shit PMS, sorry mate. 2nd time I have gone off topic.
Maybe 3rd.

Tolkien yeah yeah yeah!!!!!!!!1111111

[Madpaddy]

Go to bed Gampy. Hope you enjoyed St Patricks Day. My kids really enjoyed the parade here in the West of Ireland. I only had 3 whiskeys so a very quiet day for me by any standard.

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'J')ust out of curiosity, what books did people here really get off on as kids?

[Starvid]

The Lord of the Rings has nothing what so ever to do with WW2. In the words of Tolkien himself:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') As for any inner meaning or 'message', it has in the intention of the author none. It is neither allegorical nor topical.
The crucial chapter, 'The Shadow of the Past' ... was written long before the foreshadow of 1939 had yet become a threat of inevitable disaster, and from that point the story would have developed along essentially the same lines, if that disaster had been averted, Its sources are things long before in mind, or in some cases already written, and title or nothing in it was modified by the war that began in 1939 or its sequels.

[...]

The real war does not resemble the legendary war in its process or its conclusion.
If it had inspired or directed the development of the legend, then certainly the Ring would have been seized and used against Sauron; he would not have been annihilated but enslaved, and Barad-dur would not have been destroyed but occupied. Saruman, failing to get posession of the ring, would in the confusion and treacheries of the time have found in Mordor the missing links in his own researches into Ring-lore, and before long would have made a Great Ring of his own with which to challenge the self-styled Ruler of Middle-Earth.

[...]

... I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presences. I much prefer history, true or feigned. ... I think many confuse 'applicability' with 'allegory'; but the one resides to the freedom of the reader, and the other in the proposed domination of the author.

[hubbertspeak7777777]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'P')MS wakes up in Hell. Eternity with no one to talk with but Golem! AAAArrrrghhhhh!

[bodigami]

I've not read this thread, but if someone likes Tolkien's books I recommend reading R.A. Salvatore's books too... lol, I feel like amazon.com's scripts

[gampy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', 'I')'ve not read this thread, but if someone likes Tolkien's books I recommend reading R.A. Salvatore's books too... lol, I feel like amazon.com's scripts

[gampy]

You know what Steam Cannon? I never got around to reading about the Andes plane crash story. Fuck. Definitely make a note to pick it up on my next visit to the library. Thanks for the heads up. Saw the movie. Ho hum. My Mom said the book is amazing, will take yours and hers word for it and pick it up. Mmmmm. Cannabilism