[PenultimateManStanding]

My eldest daughter met Peter Jackson at the Academy Awards ceremony. She was wowed and speechless by Hailie Barry and Charlise Theron but when she stood by Peter Jackson she had to tell him, "you took the story right out of my mind and put it on the screen. Thank you." The Lord Of The Rings. What a tale. Some critics have called it absurd. But Tolkien obviously got the picture right. "Industry" is destruction. The story was created in the context of the coming WWII. Nazgul are obviously Nazi Ghouls. Sauron is sorrow, etc. But I think that Tolkien, if he were around today, would be a peak oiler.

[Novus]

I think it was Tolkien who first sent me on the road to the idea of environmental stewardship.

[FourOfSwords]

If life were only so black and white as in The Lord Of The Rings/Middle Earth...
...so many shades of grey here in the real world...sigh.
Alex

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FourOfSwords', 'I')f life were only so black and white as in The Lord Of The Rings/Middle Earth...
...so many shades of grey here in the real world...sigh.
Alex

[lateStarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FourOfSwords', 'I')f life were only so black and white as in The Lord Of The Rings/Middle Earth...
...so many shades of grey here in the real world...sigh.
Alex

[Alcassin]

Yes PMS, J.R.R. Tolkien was a neo-luddite

But in reality forces of "mordor" are much greater as everyone has "Palantir" in Television set This is different situation, and it's the productive forces which will win before they collapse.

I find his trilogy very idyllic (especially Shire) and still it's a world that has never been

[mos6507]

Another figure who has a strong nostalgic bent is Rod Serling.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Another element of symbolism in Tolkein's tale is the eagle. These great eagles that rescue Gandalf from Saruman's Tower, fight the Nazgul and rescue Frodo and Sam on Mount Doom. The Eagle is the emblem of the United States of America.

[Baldwin]

Middle Earth in LOTR, silmarillion etc is a libertarian fantasy land of white people of different heights and life-spans fighting off everyone else.

Sounds like my kind of dream world.

[Stratovarius]

People in this world long for another life because of the many ambiguities they face. That's why everyone on this site secretly desire the world to just END tomorrow morning because it collapses all the grey into black and white and makes their meaning and purpose clear.

There's no shame in wanting collapse.

[FourOfSwords]

'The Eagle is the emblem of the United States of America' ~ At one point I believe the Turkey was seriously considered for the emblem of the USA...would be kinda more appropriate these days...
Baldwin, yes, Tolkien was a prof. in the UK teaching Anglo Saxon studies, apparently he was highly recognized in that field. I understand that the Lord of the Rings was heavily infuenced by his Anglo Saxon teachings...might explain why it was so wildly popular over here...although the US has tried to fight off everyone else, and is paying a pretty harsh price for it now.
Middle Earth would be my dream world too...at least we wouldn't have to worry about PO, enivormental collapse etc, just get our swords out and hack our way to victory or death...
Cheers
Alex

[wisconsin_cur]

And even though great armies were meeting on the field of battle, the fate of the world did not rest in the outcome. It rested in the bravery of two of the smallest, least warlike creatures. Bravery and their ability to resist corruption.

If we are to be saved, it will be because of the actions of some small, peaceful people who refuse to enter into the logic of destruction.

Well, at least in the fantasy world

[FourOfSwords]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Stratovarius', 'P')eople in this world long for another life because of the many ambiguities they face. That's why everyone on this site secretly desire the world to just END tomorrow morning because it collapse all the grey into black and white and make their meaning and purpose clear.

There's no shame in wanting collapse.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'A')nd even though great armies were meeting on the field of battle, the fate of the world did not rest in the outcome. It rested in the bravery of two of the smallest, least warlike creatures. Bravery and their ability to resist corruption.

[FourOfSwords]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'A')nd even though great armies were meeting on the field of battle, the fate of the world did not rest in the outcome. It rested in the bravery of two of the smallest, least warlike creatures. Bravery and their ability to resist corruption.

If we are to be saved, it will be because of the actions of some small, peaceful people who refuse to enter into the logic of destruction.

Well, at least in the fantasy world

[Stratovarius]

For me, that scene symbolized the inevitable outcome of Gollum's corruption. He was driven mad by his addiction to the ring and did whatever he could to get it, even if it meant abandonment of any moral sense.

Karma bit him in the ass.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'A')nd even though great armies were meeting on the field of battle, the fate of the world did not rest in the outcome. It rested in the bravery of two of the smallest, least warlike creatures. Bravery and their ability to resist corruption.

[FourOfSwords]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'A')nd even though great armies were meeting on the field of battle, the fate of the world did not rest in the outcome. It rested in the bravery of two of the smallest, least warlike creatures. Bravery and their ability to resist corruption.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FourOfSwords', ' ')Gollum represents what, in LOTR?

[Stratovarius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FourOfSwords', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'A')nd even though great armies were meeting on the field of battle, the fate of the world did not rest in the outcome. It rested in the bravery of two of the smallest, least warlike creatures. Bravery and their ability to resist corruption.