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Re: More good news from Africa

Unread postby Laughs_Last » Sun 17 Jun 2007, 09:07:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kyn', '.')..The past has proven that if a country gets richer, it is able to do more to protect its environment...

Do you have any idea of what is going on in China?

I've been reading that China is planting more trees, as a northern buffer to reduce desertification.

Africa has never been on track to get any richer, and they have a well established record of getting royally screwed over.
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Great article on the state of South Africa

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Re: Great article on the state of South Africa

Unread postby Sys1 » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 18:18:47

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Re: Great article on the state of South Africa

Unread postby lateStarter » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 19:30:48

It was an interesting read. What I found amazing was no mention of the subject of crime. I guess they have just grown used to it. Upscale malls in Johannesburg encased in razor wire. Security in the parking lot. 43 car jackings per week. The week that I was there, 2 armored cars got hit. The first one, they rammed an SUV into and threatened the occupants with immolation after pouring petrol over if they didn't get out. The second time it happened they decided to get out. I was also involved in an armed robbery at the restaurant next to the hotel I was staying at. Not planning on going back...
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Re: Great article on the state of South Africa

Unread postby Starvid » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 20:34:38

More from South Africa:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Eskom: 'How much for a dozen?'
31 January 2008

Twelve nuclear power reactors could be ordered at once by struggling South African generator Eskom. Today Areva and Westinghouse both submitted one proposal each for two or three reactors, and another for 12 or 17.

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN/Es ... 10108.html

Pretty fucking radical I think.
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Re: Great article on the state of South Africa

Unread postby Schneider » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 21:34:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Starvid', '
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Pretty fucking radical I think.


No, that's freaking insane..They are not able to even just manage coal plants and they want to have nuclear reactors 8O!??

Oh crap,let's go for a few Tchernobyl in 5-6 years...

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Re: Great article on the state of South Africa

Unread postby frankthetank » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 21:58:35

Sounds like Milwaukee... :)
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Re: Great article on the state of South Africa

Unread postby strider3700 » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 23:29:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Starvid', '
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Pretty fucking radical I think.


No, that's freaking insane..They are not able to even just manage coal plants and they want to have nuclear reactors 8O!??

Oh crap,let's go for a few Tchernobyl in 5-6 years...

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have they ever had nuclear plants? I know they had nuclear weapons back in the day so I just assumed they had their own plants already.
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Re: Great article on the state of South Africa

Unread postby alokin » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 08:59:18

It's so sad, all that after overcoming the Apartheid!
The new ruling class must be highly incompetent.
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Re: Great article on the state of South Africa

Unread postby cube » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 09:28:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SD_Scott', 'h')ttp://www.kunstler.com/Grunt_SouthAfrica.html

Gloomy. Yeeeeesh!
That seemed like Russia right after the collapse of the former Soviet Union, but not as bad. There was no mention of man hole covers being stolen for scrap metal and people exchanging vodka for a full tank of gasoline. :)
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Re: Great article on the state of South Africa

Unread postby thor » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 14:39:33

These nuclear power plants won't materialize: too expensive and way too late.
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Food to Africa is a scam

Unread postby peak » Thu 13 Mar 2008, 14:09:13

I've never given donations to Africa or other charities that I know of. :P Maybe a few cents accidentally.

The food programs for Africa just send over rice. Africans don't suffer from starvation, they suffer from marasmus & kwashiorkor. Billions of dollars are being wasted sending "food" (just and only rice) to Africa. Mostly the ignorant European politicians & even Americans who don't bother to read.

The simple fact is that regions of Africa doesn't have the resources to support such a large population and the correct solution would be to stop sending aid and allow 90% of people to die. I don't care if someone dies in Africa due to starvation, I care that money is being wasted on garbage that mostly lives to convert rice to crap.
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Re: Food to Africa is a scam

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 13 Mar 2008, 14:53:41

Sure it helps.

It helps Bonno sell records.

It helps politicians appear generous.

It helps liberals feel kind and benevolent.

It gave the US an excuse to invade Somalia.

It's not doing anything positive for the Africans though.
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Re: Food to Africa is a scam

Unread postby deMolay » Thu 13 Mar 2008, 15:44:26

Most of it gets sold on the BlackMarket and is used to buy weapon's. All foreign aid needs to end. Look at the Millions scammed by the UN during the Tsunami scam. They are still holding it and their fat assed unelected scammers are sucking up that gravy. The biggest scam is the useless UN.
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Re: Food to Africa is a scam

Unread postby kpeavey » Thu 13 Mar 2008, 16:36:08

As we will see in the next few years, artificially supporting a population ends with disaster when the dependent population loses access to that support. The loss of access need not be permanent, just long enough. It will be a tragedy when the food runs out, with proportions never seen before in human history.

An obvious extension of the Africa-Rice conundrum is the World-Oil issue. Malthus was right all along. Africa will just be at the head of the line. Observing events over there should give us an idea of what we will face when The Reaper comes knocking.

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Re: Food to Africa is a scam

Unread postby peak » Fri 14 Mar 2008, 02:51:05

I'm surprised so many people that voted in the poll agree with me :?

I thought a bunch of social liberals would lash out at me.

There are airplanes going to Africa all the time just to deliver rice, sometimes this rice is immediately seized by criminals or authority in government usually to sell it for a profit.

Africa lacks fresh water & good soil. Most of Africa is desert like.
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Re: Food to Africa is a scam

Unread postby Ayame » Fri 14 Mar 2008, 03:48:17

Well as more food = more people ad infinitum they should put some conditions on food aid, such as everyone taking food aid should have their tubes tied so as to stop the vicious population growth cycle. I know it's sounds mean, but hey if you can't even support yourself you shouldn't be bringing anymore dependents into this world.

The only thing Bono has done is to help the African population quadruple this century. Whenever I see him on TV I want to throw my copy of the Principle of Population at him so he can finally understand that what he is doing is futile.
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Re: Food to Africa is a scam

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 14 Mar 2008, 06:52:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peak', ' ')I care that money is being wasted on garbage that mostly lives to convert rice to crap.


well its not fair to say so. They convert rice into people finally, not crap, crap is just a side item. Rice-more people- War/hunger/poverty-- refugees--white sluts putting up-- mulatto babies-- more rootless citizens without own nationality, history or culture with IQ big enough to work and too small to think-- easier globalization, unification of countries. So you see your money aren't wasted, they are properly invested.
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Re: Food to Africa is a scam

Unread postby IslandCrow » Fri 14 Mar 2008, 07:00:29

I thought Rice was just on a trip to the Middle East to try for the x-th time to restart the peace talks. Did Bush send Rice to Africa as well?
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Re: Food to Africa is a scam

Unread postby FourOfSwords » Fri 14 Mar 2008, 07:23:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peak', ' ')I care that money is being wasted on garbage that mostly lives to convert rice to crap.


well its not fair to say so. They convert rice into people finally, not crap, crap is just a side item. Rice-more people- War/hunger/poverty-- refugees--white sluts putting up-- mulatto babies-- more rootless citizens without own nationality, history or culture with IQ big enough to work and too small to think-- easier globalization, unification of countries. So you see your money aren't wasted, they are properly invested.


Pretorian, you've just described what happened to South Africa...you don't happen to live there do you?
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