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THE Smoking Thread (merged)

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Smoke Cigs?

Yes, have for years
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Yes, recently started
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Thinking that I'm gonna be stressed out and die anyway now
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Thinking that going through withdrawl once supplies end would suck
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Eeew! gross, stinky crap!
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Total votes : 49

Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 22 Feb 2008, 12:15:24

Haven't smoked the pipe in a week. No big deal. I can take it or leave it, no problem.
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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby gampy » Fri 22 Feb 2008, 13:48:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') am already going nuts.


Lol. Hang in there.
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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 22 Feb 2008, 15:04:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') am already going nuts.


Lol. Hang in there.



Just out of my first class without a cig, I have already eaten a bag of beef jerky and am right now eating hot pockets I am going to get fat as hell
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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby gampy » Fri 22 Feb 2008, 18:21:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') am already going nuts.


Lol. Hang in there.



Just out of my first class without a cig, I have already eaten a bag of beef jerky and am right now eating hot pockets I am going to get fat as hell


Yeah, I will probably gain weight as well. Try to up your activity level, to increase your metabolism. I have been going for long walks, also helps with cravings. Try not to carry any cash with you at all. If you decide to break down and buy a pack, you can't until you go get some money, so it's another coping mechanism I have been trying. No money in apartment, no money in pocket equals...hassle to buy smokes. Think about cutting up your bank card. You can get another in a couple weeks. Keep enough cash for food, bus, etc only.

What I have been doing is eating really small meals all day. Actually helps with cravings. Increases your metabolism, so you tend to burn off any calories you ingest. Try to avoid the shitty snack foods. Eat really small meals with complex carbs and fruits. Meat is ok, just avoid the salty shit. Lol..easier said than done. I ate a ginormous bag of chips yesterday, but I try.

Hang in there bud...

Day 9------No smokes today. Still feeling out of sorts and edgy, but it starts to become less of a distraction after a few days. Had a real hard time sleeping last night. I think the insomnia starts after a week or two...fuck. Someone told me that as the carbon monoxide is removed from your circulatory system, insomnia happens. You feel an edgy kind of energy. I tossed and turned all night. Don't laugh, but I turned over, and clenched / flexed my buttocks continuously until the edginess passed. I guess some kind of release is needed. Maybe one of those metal grips for squeezing might be good.

Don't know how I am going to get a good sleep the next little while. Exercise I guess...and more exercise. I am really fucking stiff today from a run the other night. Lol..I am sooo out of shape.

I really want to go out tonight, and have some fun, but a little scared of having a relapse. Fucking stir crazy here. Need some social interaction in a big way.

EDIT: LOL...sorry about all the swearing, for some reason, typing fuck, shit, piss, sonofabitch, shit, cocksucker, cuntface, godfuckindammit feels good. Hope I am not offending people's sensibilities here.
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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 22 Feb 2008, 18:40:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') am already going nuts.


Lol. Hang in there.



Just out of my first class without a cig, I have already eaten a bag of beef jerky and am right now eating hot pockets I am going to get fat as hell


Yeah, I will probably gain weight as well. Try to up your activity level, to increase your metabolism. I have been going for long walks, also helps with cravings. Try not to carry any cash with you at all. If you decide to break down and buy a pack, you can't until you go get some money, so it's another coping mechanism I have been trying. No money in apartment, no money in pocket equals...hassle to buy smokes. Think about cutting up your bank card. You can get another in a couple weeks. Keep enough cash for food, bus, etc only.

What I have been doing is eating really small meals all day. Actually helps with cravings. Increases your metabolism, so you tend to burn off any calories you ingest. Try to avoid the shitty snack foods. Eat really small meals with complex carbs and fruits. Meat is ok, just avoid the salty shit. Lol..easier said than done. I ate a ginormous bag of chips yesterday, but I try.

Hang in there bud...

Day 9------No smokes today. Still feeling out of sorts and edgy, but it starts to become less of a distraction after a few days. Had a real hard time sleeping last night. I think the insomnia starts after a week or two...fuck. Someone told me that as the carbon monoxide is removed from your circulatory system, insomnia happens. You feel an edgy kind of energy. I tossed and turned all night. Don't laugh, but I turned over, and clenched / flexed my buttocks continuously until the edginess passed. I guess some kind of release is needed. Maybe one of those metal grips for squeezing might be good.

Don't know how I am going to get a good sleep the next little while. Exercise I guess...and more exercise. I am really fucking stiff today from a run the other night. Lol..I am sooo out of shape.

I really want to go out tonight, and have some fun, but a little scared of having a relapse. Fucking stir crazy here. Need some social interaction in a big way.

EDIT: LOL...sorry about all the swearing, for some reason, typing fuck, shit, piss, sonofabitch, shit, cocksucker, cuntface, godfuckindammit feels good. Hope I am not offending people's sensibilities here.



Shoot have you read half of my posts. I swear more than any single person on here. But ever since I got myself listed as village idiot I seem to have been awarded a get out jail free card for some of my posts. Ah the sweet sweet freedom. I just ate an entire bag of Reese's pieces. Jabba the hut won't have anything on me.
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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby Ang » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 17:33:48

Just checking in...still smoke free. How about you two?
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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 17:41:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ang', 'J')ust checking in...still smoke free. How about you two?



I cheated this morning. I don't feel to great about it either. I live in a college dorm / apt type place and I can't step outside without seeing 4 or 5 people smoking and someone offered me a cig and I took it. Got really light headed.
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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby Ang » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 17:51:21

Well, one is better than two.

I think I'm done for sure this time. I can't imagine anything that would compel me to smoke and have that horrible taste in my mouth again or spending 6 bucks on ruining my health.

Good luck, brother!
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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby BigTex » Tue 26 Feb 2008, 18:46:14

Any updates from the quitters?
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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Tue 26 Feb 2008, 19:09:53



Anyone who is familiar with my posts knows me. Therefore, it shouldn't come as a surprise that I am going to lay down the smack-down on this thread right now.

Just because you come here and waste your time yabbering about "quitting" doesn't mean you're going to bend the odds in your favor.

In other words, words don't change your individual chances: 1 in 10. As a former smoker and successful quitter, I would bet ca$h money against every single one of you guys. Double down on some.

So, without further interruption, please continue your quitting. I'll leave you with a story that might encourage you: "The journey of a thousand miles, begins with a single step..."


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Re: Anyone here quit smoking?

Unread postby gampy » Wed 27 Feb 2008, 01:46:06

Fuck off troll.

Still smoke free asshole.
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Smoking Myths and the Role of Detection Bias

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 18:01:41

This whole "smoking is bad for you" is overblown. Being a occasional pipe smoker (twice a week, maybe) I should live LONGER than a non-smoker. Yup, live longer! Also, it's a very relaxing - better than them dam meds, that's for sure!

Just like this whole "non-drinking" thing. I don't buy it one bit. Nothing better than tipping a few now and again. Like everything, moderation my friends.

Need better health - start taking some long walks in the woods. :razz:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') common myth about smoking assert that the lungs of smokers become brown or even black from years of accumulation of tars and goo. Not true, according to Wray Kephart. Mr. Kephart presently works as an engineer but he previously worked in a hospital, performing autopsies, most of which were paid for by insurance companies, seeking to determine whether the deceased committed suicide, or died from "natural causes". Kephart tells me that he's done approximately 1560 autopsies, and he's seen some strange things, such as the lungs of auto painters, which were "effectively sealed with catalyzed lacquers".

Kephart insists, however, that it is normally impossible to tell, from autopsy, whether the deceased was or was not a smoker. Upon resection, the lungs are always clear, unless the deceased lived in a large city where there was significant industrial pollution. In that event, carbon deposits may be found, but these are unrelated to smoking. So the "brown lungs" myth is exactly that: a myth.



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Re: Smoking Myths and the Role of Detection Bias

Unread postby RonMN » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 18:29:15

I always found it rediculous while standing on a busy uptown street corner, breathing gas & deisel exhaust, somebody would come up to me & tell my that my ciggie was annoying them.

I should have thrown the bastards into traffic :)
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Re: Smoking Myths and the Role of Detection Bias

Unread postby catbox » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 19:07:35

Watched my grandfather smoke smoke smoke...then it was Oxygen at 60 at 64 he was dead. Grandmother just died the same way. Never smoked myself because I saw what it did to my grandparents.

It's funny how I can be on a ride way out in the country...and I will smell someone smoking. I'll ride a bit further and boom, there they are...you can smell that shit blocks away. Nothing like breathing that stuff in after riding 60 miles...I'll take bus fumes anyday over cigarette smoke...if you smoke...you won't get it.

Hardly anyone I know smokes now, and the ones that gave it up always say they are grateful they did because they just feel better overall.

Go ahead, smoke...it's good for ya!
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Re: Smoking Myths and the Role of Detection Bias

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 20:19:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('catbox', 'W')atched my grandfather smoke smoke smoke...then it was Oxygen at 60 at 64 he was dead. Grandmother just died the same way. Never smoked myself because I saw what it did to my grandparents.

It's funny how I can be on a ride way out in the country...and I will smell someone smoking. I'll ride a bit further and boom, there they are...you can smell that shit blocks away. Nothing like breathing that stuff in after riding 60 miles...I'll take bus fumes anyday over cigarette smoke...if you smoke...you won't get it.

Hardly anyone I know smokes now, and the ones that gave it up always say they are grateful they did because they just feel better overall.

Go ahead, smoke...it's good for ya!


Cigs ain't a pipe! No addiction with the pipe.
You sound exactly like those Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. I'd say they died from genetics.

My Grandfather worked in the Mines without any safety equipment, smoked 7 packs a day and lived to 77.

My Mothers side (she had a diff father) they all are getting cancer in their 60's. Some smoked cigs and other never smoked? What's up with that! Genetics. I no an entire family that drinks a unreal amount, daddy made it to 82, bet all the kids will make it into their 80's too. Genetics!

Hope you don't kack on those Mc'buggers and Soda pop. Worst shit around. :razz:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')o ahead, smoke...it's good for ya!


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Re: Smoking Myths and the Role of Detection Bias

Unread postby Lighthouse » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 21:07:09

It is amazing what Peakoil.com has become...
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Re: Smoking Myths and the Role of Detection Bias

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 21:19:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', 'I')t is amazing what Peakoil.com has become...



To much free time on their hands waiting for an end that still hasn't come.
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Re: Smoking Myths and the Role of Detection Bias

Unread postby Daculling » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 21:32:48

My grandfather was put on a low cholesterol diet to reduce his cholesterol. His cholesterol did not drop until he ditched it for eating bacon. He made it to his late 90's so what did he know?

I hear ya, If I have to smoke on the street then you have to drive your car in your house.
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Re: Smoking Myths and the Role of Detection Bias

Unread postby eastbay » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 21:46:40

vision master,

Thanks. I agree 100%. I smoke one or two cigs almost every day. Have for three decades now. Prior to that, I smoked like most smokers back then... far too much. But rather than quit something so enjoyable, I decided to try limiting the times and places i smoke. Now it's one in the early morning most days... and another mid-morning most days. Some days it's zero... some it's three. Very few know ... it's just too darn bad politically these days. Two packs per month. I strongly suspect it's not hurting me very much, if any at all. I'm a non-drinking vegetarian so it's my only small vice.
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Re: Smoking Myths and the Role of Detection Bias

Unread postby TWilliam » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 16:21:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', 'I')t is amazing what Peakoil.com has become...



To much free time on their hands waiting for an end that still hasn't come.


And you're here again because... ???

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Re smoking: I agree with the OP that moderation is the wisest approach, to most indulgences I'd say. The body can cope with a wide range of abuses if given the opportunity to heal.

Genetics also likely plays a role; some people have stronger overall constitutions than others. One's habitual response to life's inevitable stresses is also a major factor.

But the fact is, chronic heavy smoking (of anything) is generally not too good for your lungs; we didn't evolve in a smoke-filled environment:

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