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THE Karl Rove Thread (merged)

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THE Karl Rove Thread (merged)

Unread postby savethehumans » Sun 13 Feb 2005, 23:00:27

Karl Rove: Truth Is Scarier Than Fiction
Geez, and I thought Halloween was in OCTOBER:

'Most powerful man' gets more powerful By Judy Keen, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON-- Karl Rove's promotion Tuesday elevated his image from the most powerful presidential adviser in modern times to, well, an even more powerful presidential adviser.

As senior political strategist, Karl Rove was largely responsible for coordinating President Bush's re-election campaign.
Tim Loehrke, USA TODAY : Rove, whose "senior adviser" title understated his influence, now also has the title "deputy White House chief of staff." The promotion expands his official portfolio from politics and strategy to coordination of foreign and domestic policies.

"Put me down saying positive things, because he's obviously the most powerful man in Washington," said Mike McCurry, a top adviser to Sen. John Kerry's presidential campaign and former spokesman for President Clinton. "He very clearly is not a man you want to be on the wrong side of."

McCurry's lighthearted reaction reflected a belief in the capital that Rove has unprecedented clout. In November, Bush credited him as "the architect" of his re-election, but his influence has always extended beyond politics.

Former Bush aide John DiIulio told Esquire after he resigned in 2001 that Rove is "maybe the single most powerful person in the modern, post-Hoover era ever to occupy a political adviser post near the Oval Office."

Not everyone thinks that's a good thing. "Empowering Rove in this way shows that Bush cares more about political positioning than honest policy discussions," said Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "Bush knows that Rove is neither an economic nor a national security expert. He is simply an ideological strategist."

ROVE'S NEW RESPONSIBILITIES: Since 2001, Karl Rove has been senior adviser to President Bush in charge of:
Strategic planning
Political affairs
Liaison to outside groups
Intergovernmental affairs

Rove's new title, deputy White House chief of staff, also puts him in charge of coordinating policies developed by the:
National Security Council
Domestic Policy Council
National Economic Council
Homeland Security Council

Ken Mehlman, who ran Bush's 2004 campaign and is chairman of the Republican National Committee, said Rove was never just a political adviser. "He's always interested in the policy first," he said.

Rove, 54, ran Bush's two successful campaigns for Texas governor and oversaw both of Bush's presidential campaigns. A book title in 2003 cemented the not-exactly-complimentary nickname "Bush's Brain." When someone leaked the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame to reporters in 2003, supposedly in retaliation for her husband's criticism of the administration, White House spokesman Scott McClellan was asked at a briefing for reporters whether Rove did it. "Totally ridiculous," he said.

Rove never finished college, but he's an avid reader and historian. During last year's campaign, he had staff meetings in his kitchen as he cooked breakfast.

He has become a political celebrity. Fans can search the Internet and buy a camisole ($17.99) or boxer shorts ($14.99) featuring his photo inside a pink heart.

Grover Norquist of the conservative group Americans for Tax Reform, a Rove adviser, said Rove is so close to Bush that he "doesn't need a title," but the new one formalizes a role Rove has long played and makes the White House structure more coherent. "You couldn't have done this in 2004 because people would have said, 'Oh, this is political,' " he said.

Announcing Rove's expanded role, Bush said his "hard work and dedication have been invaluable. I appreciate Karl's willingness to continue to serve my administration."
8O :shock: :? :( :cry:
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Unread postby threadbear » Sun 13 Feb 2005, 23:02:49

How sweet. Which makes the second most powerful man in the US, the Pillsbury Doughboy's evil twin.
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Unread postby savethehumans » Sun 13 Feb 2005, 23:08:03

threadbear, I have it on good authority that The Doughboy has disowned his evil twin, and is doing all he can to oppose him. Most recently, he met with his company's CEO and demanded that Rove be banned from attending the 2005 Pillsbury Bake-Off. :lol:
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Unread postby TrueKaiser » Sun 13 Feb 2005, 23:08:56

just further proof he will be the death of this country..
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Unread postby maverickdoc » Sun 13 Feb 2005, 23:15:02

Rice & Rove 2008
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Unread postby gg3 » Sun 13 Feb 2005, 23:18:35

Karl Rove is a diagnosable sociopath. If you look up his history, you find that he has no scruples. His frequent use of political dirty tricks, and his single-minded pursuit of power, are obvious symptoms.

One can only hope that he eventually gets caught doing something that's illegal enough to make for a prosecution, or at least embarrassing enough to knock him off his throne. The Democrats should be bird-dogging him 24/7 until they get really good evidence of something -anything- and then hit the media with it.
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Unread postby threadbear » Sun 13 Feb 2005, 23:30:24

Save the Humans, The Pillsbury doughboy drank himself into a puddle of yeast at the last bake off. Rove is blackmailing him with some pretty damning photos. I guess he was slam dancing in the nude with Betty Crocker.

And don't you worry about the bakeoff. He'll be there. Oh...he'll be there. Not only that, Rove's got Diebold to institute touch screen voting, so he gets final say on who wins.
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Unread postby Geology_Guy » Mon 14 Feb 2005, 00:02:40

If you Democrats ever want to start winning elections you need to learn how to win people over with ideas. Calling old Rove names may make you feel better, but it won't win elections.

Please come up with good compasionate liberal ideals and work hard marketing them to ordinary folk in places like Indiana. Indiana always votes Republican for President, but it has a Dem. for governor.

Get out there and sell good ideas like peak oil and how you have better smarter ways to deal with it. All Carl Rove did was outclass you on ideas.
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Unread postby Pfish » Mon 14 Feb 2005, 08:05:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Geology_Guy', 'I')f you Democrats ever want to start winning elections you need to learn how to win people over with ideas.

Here is an idea: How about flanking the Rebublican Party on their own agenda. Not the agenda from the new millenium, but the "Bill of Rights" offered by Gringrich and Co.
The most basic: 1. Balance the budget.
Too bad they cannot do it.....
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Unread postby The_Virginian » Mon 14 Feb 2005, 15:43:16

mike B kudo's,
skolnick (a chicago advocate of a clean court) posted about 2 years ago that Rove was gay, and Bush was hanging around known gay personality Victor ashe.
This proves it. hyporitical scum, nothing worse than a hypocrite.
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Unread postby threadbear » Mon 14 Feb 2005, 17:10:32

I had no idea that Rove was gay until just recently. If you read the quote from Rove about his reaction the first time he met Bush, in the Man of the Year issue, it's pretty obvious. The fact that he's big in the fundy Christian movement, I'd call hypocritical, if it's sheer evil nature didn't dwarf the issue of hypocrisy.

As far as issues go, the Democrats have to get back to their roots and represent people rather than corporations. That is the only issue they have to embrace, then everything magically will fall into place.

I want to see Rove frog marched out of a Nuremburg style war crimes tribunal with the rest of the neocons one day. I swear, I'd be walking on a cloud for the rest of my life.
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In other words.

Unread postby EnviroEngr » Mon 14 Feb 2005, 22:33:06

Would that make Rove the anti-christ?
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Unread postby threadbear » Mon 14 Feb 2005, 23:13:22

EE, Given his orientation, that would make him the aunti-christ. :)
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Unread postby EnviroEngr » Mon 14 Feb 2005, 23:39:03

:lol: There it is, the turd in the punch bowl! [smilie=pottytrain2.gif]
Don't we need Rocky and Bullwinkle back? Maybe Dick?! :lol:
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Unread postby threadbear » Mon 14 Feb 2005, 23:50:30

EE, Speaking of turds, apparently Bush's nickname for Rove is --turd blossom!
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Rove is a what?

Unread postby EnviroEngr » Mon 14 Feb 2005, 23:57:07

:lol: [smilie=qgreenjumpers.gif] [smilie=qgreenjumpers.gif] :lol:

No kidding? What a fascinating piece of synchronicity!
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PBS FrontLine Tonight Karl Rove

Unread postby Aaron » Tue 12 Apr 2005, 21:31:51

The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Unread postby zed » Wed 13 Apr 2005, 01:25:51

Sounds like a great show to boost the blood pressure..
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Unread postby gg3 » Wed 13 Apr 2005, 07:11:49

Sounds like a great opportunity to dust off your copy of DSM (the Diagnostic & Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association) and see which category of personality disorder seems to fit most closely.
Darn, too bad I missed it. And don't ever forget, "charm" is spelled "c-harm," which is pronounced "see-harm."
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MSNBC Analyst Says Rove Source of Plame Leak

Unread postby Carrie » Sat 02 Jul 2005, 01:25:19

Surprise, surprise - looks like Karl Rove may be the source of the leak about Valerie Plame being an undercover CIA agent:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')onight, on the syndicated McLaughlin Group political talk show, Lawrence O'Donnell, senior MSNBC political analyst, claimed to know that name--and it is, according to him, top White House mastermind Karl Rove.

Here is the transcript of O'Donnell's remarks: "What we're going to go to now in the next stage, when Matt Cooper's e-mails, within Time Magazine, are handed over to the grand jury, the ultimate revelation, probably within the week of who his source is.
"And I know I'm going to get pulled into the grand jury for saying this but the source of...for Matt Cooper was Karl Rove, and that will be revealed in this document dump that Time magazine's going to do with the grand jury."
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Things are starting to get interesting!

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