[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'I')f you guys really want to read about injustice under the Soviets some Aleksander Solzhenytsen is in order.

It's funny though, his writing is completely full of optimism and compassion, unlike the less equally oppressed Rand.


Drew

[mercurygirl]

A friend lent me "Atlas Shrugged" when I was in my twenties. I couldn't understand it. I guess that makes me a dumbass.

Why is libertarianism vile? Do you mean the "every man for himself" viewpoint?

IMO, enlightenment is a process, not a goal.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', 'A') friend lent me "Atlas Shrugged" when I was in my twenties. I couldn't understand it. I guess that makes me a dumbass.

Why is libertarianism vile? Do you mean the "every man for himself" viewpoint?

IMO, enlightenment is a process, not a goal.

[Newfie]

You can lead a horse to water but you may not like the end you end up with.

[perdition79]

When I first read it at fourteen, "Atlas Shrugged" helped me to think in a way completely different from all the dogmatic socialist bullshit shoved down my throat by my parents, school, and church. It took a few years to realize that it's best to develop my own morality instead of completely adopting her brand of idealism.

Ayn Rand is too mercenary and anti-social for most people. Her views are way too idealistic, (in regard to her ideals of course,) and in that way, I've always viewed her writing to be childish. Despite that, Rand's writing helped me to realize that there's nothing wrong with being nearly devoid of compassion when making important decisions or taking action, and that there's nothing wrong with putting one's own ideals above those of anyone else.

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('perdition79', '
')Ayn Rand is too mercenary and anti-social for most people. Her views are way too idealistic, (in regard to her ideals of course,) and in that way, I've always viewed her writing to be childish. Despite that, Rand's writing helped me to realize that there's nothing wrong with being nearly devoid of compassion when making important decisions or taking action, and that there's nothing wrong with putting one's own ideals above those of anyone else.

[Pops]

Yea a funny thing about the end of Atlas, there were all the great innovators and capitalists of the time living in some mountain valley under the cone of silence and doing their own thing, totally independent of and yet completely dependent on each other in the ideal Capitalist Commune.

What a Paradise.



Then someone went and had a baby...

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'Y')ea a funny thing about the end of Atlas, there were all the great innovators and capitalists of the time living in some mountain valley under the cone of silence and doing their own thing, totally independent of and yet completely dependent on each other in the ideal Capitalist Commune.

What a Paradise.



Then someone went and had a baby...

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'Y')ea a funny thing about the end of Atlas, there were all the great innovators and capitalists of the time living in some mountain valley under the cone of silence and doing their own thing, totally independent of and yet completely dependent on each other in the ideal Capitalist Commune.

What a Paradise.



Then someone went and had a baby...

[mattduke]

Classical liberalism doesn't mean you can't share. In fact, only free people can share. Government taking from you by force is not sharing at all but stealing.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'C')lassical liberalism doesn't mean you can't share. In fact, only free people can share. Government taking from you by force is not sharing at all but stealing.

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')She and PMS would have run off together on her first day here.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')She and PMS would have run off together on her first day here.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'I')t's funny though, his writing is completely full of optimism and compassion, unlike the less equally oppressed Rand.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'Y')ou can lead a man to knowledge but you can't make him think.

[fireplaceguy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '.')..If capitalism really worked to make for efficiency then we would have a decent mass transit system in the US.

One of the things that makes me worry less about PO is that we have so much slop, inefficiency, in the system that we can get by with much less than we use now by doing simple things. That will flatten the curve of the collapse but not stop the collapse.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'P')starr, the Russian communists took her father's business away from him and ruined her family.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'I') understand why she believed what she did due to the expropriation of her family's property, but man oh man did she have a selfish and harsh streak in her.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('btu2012', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'P')starr, the Russian communists took her father's business away from him and ruined her family.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I') hope Eastbay doesn't hear you talking like that.