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Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby dorlomin » Fri 08 Feb 2008, 12:55:26

Used to be the US this we all know, but since 2003 it has been......




Nope wrong if you were going to say China, or even Japan.....


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7234353.stm

The Federal Republic of Germany.

Kinda makes the UK and US hang there heads in shame. Shows that China is not the all conquering giant that people claim it is quite yet. It is possible for a relatively mid sized European country to still produce more stuff (wont use the word crap for german machines) that the world wants to buy, even with the dollar being openly depreciated.

It wont last, but it shows how weak the anglo nations have capitulated in manufacturing.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Nicholai » Fri 08 Feb 2008, 13:43:50

Die Germans ahh a very industrious pee-poll. Vee have shown diss in hour histor-ee ant our culture.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 08 Feb 2008, 18:21:46

The Germans are a very OLD people. The birth rate there is so low that the number of unproductive retirees will inevitably explode and the number of workers and the overall population will drop by 10% over the next 25 years.

Germany is on the verge of demographic disaster. 8)
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 08 Feb 2008, 18:30:04

The population of Germany is becoming progressively more elderly, and this article focuses on the causes and implications of that trend. We discuss the demographic processes that occurred in Germany in the second half of the 20th century and describe the developments that the population of Germany will undergo in the next 50 years, which promise to exert a profound influence on the economic and social future of the country.

Citation: E. Hoffmann, S. Menning, A Century of Population Aging in Germany. Sci. Aging Knowl. Environ. 2004 (37), pe35 (2004).
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby lawnchair » Fri 08 Feb 2008, 20:50:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'G')ermany is on the verge of demographic disaster. 8)


So, what do you propose is the answer for Germany, then? Pop out kids? At 2% growth (human history shows that is very easy to achieve), they could be as dense as Haiti in only 20 years and as dense as Bangladesh today in 70. Then what? Grow or die?

All the West is coming to that point. There's nothing to do but deal with it.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 08 Feb 2008, 21:13:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lawnchair', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'G')ermany is on the verge of demographic disaster. 8)


So, what do you propose is the answer for Germany, then?


Germany's population, workforce, and economy are going to shrink. Their elderly population will grow dramatically. They better start building nursing homes.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby frankthetank » Fri 08 Feb 2008, 22:42:00

I guess what they would need to do is start having kids and then equal it with deaths, if not enough die in each given day, just shoot people in the head (stupid people). That way each day you would stay equal. Popping out kids is very easy, shooting people in the head is easy too.

Germany builds very nice super yachts, ask Paul Allen.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 09 Feb 2008, 00:42:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'I') guess what they would need to do is start having kids and then equal it with deaths, if not enough die in each given day, just shoot people in the head (stupid people). That way each day you would stay equal. Popping out kids is very easy, shooting people in the head is easy too.

Germany builds very nice super yachts, ask Paul Allen.



The Germans aren't having kids. The German birthrate is well below replacement levels, so the proportion of elderly is going to grow and their total population is going to drop by ca. 10%.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Madpaddy » Sat 09 Feb 2008, 15:46:42

Frankthetank wrote,

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') guess what they would need to do is start having kids and then equal it with deaths, if not enough die in each given day, just shoot people in the head


This is the Germans we are talking about. Shooting people in the head if there is a pressing need should not be a problem. I'm sure some of those ovens could be rolled out again.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby smiley » Sat 09 Feb 2008, 19:25:29

I'm amazed to hear people complaining about a low birthrate at this site.

After all Peakoil is a site about population overshoot more than anything else. Population reduction is a blessing.

Besides the whole fear for the effect of population reduction on the workforce is a joke.

If you look at the numbers, you notice that the workforce has been increasing much more rapid than the population in the past decades. The reason for that is the increase of working women. It would take more than a small population decline to counter that effect.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Madpaddy » Sat 09 Feb 2008, 23:08:54

Goodbye.

I may be some time.

It's being great knowing some of you guys but in my case now reality calls.


I'll be back.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 09 Feb 2008, 23:11:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', 't')he workforce has been increasing much more rapid than the population in the past decades. The reason for that is the increase of working women. It would take more than a small population decline to counter that effect.


A 10% drop in population in Germany is not a small population decline, especially with the remaining population becoming ever more elderly. 8)
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby smiley » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 19:41:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') 10% drop in population in Germany is not a small population decline


Compared to the trend I'm talking about it is.

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All in all I don't believe population decline is such a bad thing. If you look around the world there are a large number of countries with declining populations and growing economies. Just look around the east. The same cannot be said of countries with a high fertility number.

Out of curiosity. Why are you signing your messages with a cool emoticon?
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 20:23:04

It's the third-worlders who need to be trimmed down, not the Aryans. Sheesh.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Ebyss » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 20:57:20

On a sidenote - land in some parts of Germany (i.e. farmland) is going ridiculously cheap at the moment. Coupla guys I know clubbed together and bought a 40 acre Army Base that was abandoned (I think it was an Airfield or some such) for around E40,000. Another person I know was offered a farm for E10,000.

Could be some ideal homesteading opportunities out there.
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Re: Who is the worlds largest exporter.

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 03:38:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ebyss', 'O')n a sidenote - land in some parts of Germany (i.e. farmland) is going ridiculously cheap at the moment. Coupla guys I know clubbed together and bought a 40 acre Army Base that was abandoned (I think it was an Airfield or some such) for around E40,000. Another person I know was offered a farm for E10,000.

Could be some ideal homesteading opportunities out there.


Good point. One positive side effect of declining population is that the demand for property declines and prices can drop.

In the aftermath of the medieval plague of the black death, when populations in Europe were decimated, land became cheap and the survivors actually were better off then before the plague.
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