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7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby steam_cannon » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 08:40:18

7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/misery.html

I'm not normally a fan of list articles, but I felt this article was good enough to print out and save. Enjoy!

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7. We feel worthless because we actually are worth less.

But here's the thing. You are hard-wired by evolution to need to do things for people. Everybody for the last five thousand years seemed to realize this and then we suddenly forgot it in the last few decades. We get suicidal teens and scramble to teach them self-esteem. Well, unfortunately, self-esteem and the ability to like yourself only come after you've done something that makes you likable. You can't bullshit yourself. If I think Todd over here is worthless for sitting in his room all day, drinking and playing video games, doesn't it follow that I'm worthless for doing the same thing?

It doesn't matter what you tell yourself, or what slogans you memorize about how everyone is special. You'll think of yourself as special when you do something special. If you think of yourself as special prior to actually doing something special, you're not healthy and well-balanced. You're a narcissist, disconnected from reality...
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 10:09:53

Some of this is just not being smart though...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1'). Not enough annoying strangers in our lives.

That's not sarcasm. Annoyance is something you build up a tolerance to, like alcohol or a bad smell. The more we're able to edit the annoyance out of our lives, the less we're able to handle it.

The problem is we've built an awesome, sprawling web of technology meant purely to let us avoid annoying people. Do all your Christmas shopping online and avoid the fat lady ramming her cart into you at Target. Spend five thousand bucks on a home theater system so you can see movies on a big screen without a toddler kicking the back of your seat. Hell, even rent the DVD's online so you don't even have to mess with the confused kid working the register at Blockbuster.

Get stuck in the waiting room at the doctor? No way I'm striking up a conversation with the smelly old man sitting next to me. Plug the iPod into my ears and have a text conversation with a friend, or play my DS. Filter that annoyance right out of my world.


the last lady to ram a cart into me surprised us both when I turned around, grabbed her cart, rammed it back at her and told her that if she did that again I'd reach down her heart and rip her fucking heart out. I think both of us wound up leaving the store fairly quickly after that.

It was totally unlike me and anything I've ever done before or since (except as a prison guard of course). Having a confident looking white woman with a deadly intent gleam in her eye threaten a smaller, older asian woman would constitute a real threat. I think its a stupid recipe for disaster.

Sometimes knowing your own limitations and working with them is a wiser course of action
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 10:29:50

Okay, but there is a time and a place to round on and confront strangers that are annoying you on purpose or out of their own ignorance. Been there, done that! My wife still thinks I am a psycho! ; - ) But if you go around turning on those that annoy you on a habitual basis - i.e. anymore than once or twice a year - then it may simply be a lack of communication skills on your part. Sure, as I get older, I have less and less patience for loud, spoiled children, but I remind myself it is their parent's fault. Not necessarily theirs. I think we become miserable because our own expectations are too high! ; - )
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 10:37:51

I have loooked back on that incidence and wondered if there wasn't also a cultural thing at work there too. I know as a westerner that I am less comfortable with crowds and would go nuts, like totally mental in a crowd in new york city or a crowded street in Beijing.

But I will admit that ever since that episode I know that I should just avoid that chain of stores becuase something about the colour scheme and the crowds set me off.

Unlike the article though I am lucky in taht I have friends who will tell me that it sucks to be me or pull my chain. I even have one friend who knows of my jewish background and is a wanna-be nazi. so I think there is something to be said for accepting differences in others and not just "tolerating" them.
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 10:51:41

oh yah, like standing in line with a bunch of British or standing in a similiar line with a bunch of Russians is a totally different experience. their attitudes towards queing are completely at opposite ends of the pole. also in OBHR they call it direct or indirect communicators in terms of those that say exactly what they mean and those that avoid public confrontation to save face. and it is cultural. as a westerner I do prefer my own sense of personal space! ; - )
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby dinopello » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 10:55:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'H')aving a confident looking white woman with a deadly intent gleam in her eye...


Oh my, you just got PMS all hot and bothered, I bet.
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 10:57:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'H')aving a confident looking white woman with a deadly intent gleam in her eye...


Oh my, you just got PMS all hot and bothered, I bet.


At least there are some constants in teh universe!
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby lawnchair » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 11:01:54

Missed lots (though pre-21st century problems):

Speeding around in little cages that if anyone makes the slightest errant move, they're going to die or kill somebody. Also, the devotion to the car makes it nearly impossible get somewhere by human power ("without Saudi oil, I can't buy TP to wipe my butt. Who's in control here").

The first rule of marketing is to create inadequacy! Once you've shot holes in someone's sense of completeness, you can sell them something to fill that hole.
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby Chuckmak » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 13:44:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'H')aving a confident looking white woman with a deadly intent gleam in her eye...


Oh my, you just got PMS all hot and bothered, I bet.


At least there are some constants in teh universe!


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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby steam_cannon » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 14:44:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lawnchair', '(')"without Saudi oil, I can't buy TP to wipe my butt. Who's in control here").

The first rule of marketing is to create inadequacy! Once you've shot holes in someone's sense of completeness, you can sell them something to fill that hole.
A good point about "marketing inadequacy". I know how to sew and do a few things. I was repairing some gloves last night. But most people don't know how to sew on a button. When my Mother was growing up, sewing courses and cooking courses were mandatory.

So there was a whole generation that could fix pants an cook for themselves, awful consumers! Without those skills people have to go to Walmart if a button pops off and to the Steak House for real meal because all they know how to cook are hotdogs. And if people had budgeting skills, how would the credit card companies get by? And the pharmaceutical industry? Kid needs a slap, give a pill instead? The last generation didn't need to be drugged up, so what's going on? They're marketing inadequacy!

It seems like just about everything in our modern society is geared towards disempowering people to make them better consumers. If a person gets a big screen TV, a playstation, a DVD, T-VO... All these things mean that guys and gals spend less time making things and learning to make things for themselves. Less knowledge about cooking, sewing, fixing things...

So I think I would add a number 8 to this list, "Marketing Inadequacy - Marketers are making you inadequate".
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby steam_cannon » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 14:55:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'o')h yeah, like standing in line with a bunch of British or standing in a similar line with a bunch of Russians is a totally different experience. their attitudes towards queing are completely at opposite ends of the pole.
Hahaha, that's the truth! It looked so funny to me the first time I was in a Ukrainian McDonalds. People just walked up to the counter and the teller picked who they were serving next. No line, just everyone right there! And it worked just fine, but it was very different. It looked chaotic but it felt more free too. These were people who in the Orange Revolution marched on their capital and wouldn't leave. It's funny, but even at Mcdonalds, these people "had it their way"! :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 't')he last lady to ram a cart into me surprised us both when I turned around, grabbed her cart, rammed it back at her
Well going with the article, perhaps that lady needed more constructive criticism of her behavior. Which is what you gave her... :lol:

Myself, in stores I'm reasonably observant. And when walking in a store and I see something like a man with a fruit bag stuck to his foot, I politely tell the person. They often look surprised at first that someone is speaking to them in a store. But then they thank me. I try to do good deeds if I see the opportunity, not like the lady ramming people with carts. But it's amusing to me how no one else in the store who also sees these things would tell the person. And I think that shows there's a problem. Even if a person has a juice container pouring juice out of their cart, other people won't say a word. It's funny how isolated people make themselves.

Speaking of isolation...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]And get this: they had more friends.

That's right; even though they had almost NO ability to filter their friends purely by common interests (hell, often you were just friends with the guy who happened to live next door) they still came up with more close friends than we have now. People they could trust.

It turns out, I suppose, that after you get over that first irritation, after you shed your shell of "they listen to different music because they wouldn't understand mine" superiority, there's a sort of comfort in needing other people and being needed on a level that goes beyond common interests. It turns out humans are social animals after all.
To me, it's observations like this that really make it a good article...
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby TheDude » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 15:07:11

Nice read, Steam.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he last generation didn't need to be drugged up, so what's going on? They're marketing inadequacy!


Which generation is that? Even Brokaw's Greatest were smoking and drinking, mostly for social interaction; but that angle was how it was marketed, how much qualitative difference is there between that and doping up your kids to calm them down? I'm intrigued by the notion that people are simply a lot more wound up now, whether from the obvious sources (media overload), not-so-obvious (high speed motion, overpopulation), or tinfoil hat (power line or cellular transmissions).

Never had a high speed collision, but people in supermarkets are always apologizing for unpardonable offenses like gently brushing into me. Maybe they're scared? Calm down, it's just a tweed sports jacket! Yes, my shoes are scuffed up Doc Martins. No, I haven't cut my hair in a long time.

Think I'll apologize to my next cashier. Should get a laugh, they're good eggs.

Recently bought a cheap used iPod - seller had some Alex Jones podcasts, we talked about WTC7 and I gave my peak oil rap. It's made walking/biking around suburbia much more interesting - has to, since suburbia by definition is duller than dishwater. So score one for insulating technology.
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby steam_cannon » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 17:05:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'N')ice read, Steam.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he last generation didn't need to be drugged up, so what's going on? They're marketing inadequacy!


Which generation is that? Even Brokaw's Greatest were smoking and drinking, mostly for social interaction; but that angle was how it was marketed, how much qualitative difference is there between that and doping up your kids to calm them down?
Well, there are a few differences. Traditionally when growing up kids can learn to deal with boredom and doing boring stuff like studying. And anyway, are our drugging efforts really helping?

"Methylphenidate... The United States accounts for approximately 90 per cent of total world manufacture and consumption of the substance."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... sh/un.html

SAT Reading and Math Scores Show Decline
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/30/education/30sat.html

I'm in the camp that thinks we need more teachers and not more drugs. But also I think seeing how things are done in different countries is enlightening. In Ukraine they don't have to give all the kids Ritalin and life is working out just as it always has. And regarding smoking and drinking, well in Ukraine lots of adults smoked and drank. But hey, I say adults can do as they like... :)

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Also a side note about smoking, I think smoking makes populations more reasonable. Nicotine is similar in many ways to anti-psychotic medications for schizophrenia. So simply I suspect populations that smoke tend to be more reasonable. It's a funny idea I know, but on a society level I think that's one of the effects it would have. And I have good reason to say that:

Toxoplasma gondii is a common parasite, it is in undercooked meat and also carried by cats. In some parts of the developed world 80% of the population have been exposed to this parasite. It is a brain infection that in many people worsens later in life existing at varying levels in different populations. In some people it's has "limited effects", but it seems in others in causes schizophrenia type symptoms. It's releases hallucinogenic compounds into the brain in it's life cycle. And it's life cycle is inhibited by anti-psychotic drugs.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..medications used for the treatment of schizophrenia on rats infected with T. gondii and found they were as, or more, effective at preventing behaviourial alterations as anti-T. gondii drugs. This led them to believe that T. gondii may have a role in the development of some cases of schizophrenia.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 082853.htm
There's a lot of new research on the web about this...
http://www.google.com/search?q=Schizoph ... sma+gondii

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Schizophrenia and Nicotine

Some studies have suggested that there may be improvements in these areas after treatment with nicotine. So, it maybe that nicotine is used as a "self-medication" strategy by those with schizophrenia to improve these difficulties with attention, cognition, and information processing as well as the side effects of antipsychotic medications (eg extrapyramidal effects).

http://www.schizophrenia.com/szresearch ... 01061.html

So I suspect that in large populations (Europe, The US) where many people on the street have mild infections with these brain parasites, smoking would reduce the number of unreasonable people out there. Smoking leads to shorter lives, but for people with mild versions of this infection, it may mean better quality of life for those people and a better life for those around them.

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Regarding adults drinking, drinking provides clean water (beer) and slows down a populations consumption by slowing people down. So I'm really not against drinking either.

Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi! :wink:

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So I'm in favor of drinking and smoking, even though I don't smoke and I rarely drink... I should work for a tobacco company! :lol: But as funny as it sounds, I think smoking and drinking offer more benefit to a society then giving children Ritalin.

So I'll add a #9 to the list: "Not enough people smoking and drinking!"

Just a few thoughts, let the flaming begin...
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby steam_cannon » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 17:12:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'I')'m intrigued by the notion that people are simply a lot more wound up now, whether from the obvious sources (media overload), not-so-obvious (high speed motion, overpopulation), or tinfoil hat (power line or cellular transmissions).
I hear ya...

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'N')ever had a high speed collision, but people in supermarkets are always apologizing for unpardonable offenses like gently brushing into me. Maybe they're scared? Calm down, it's just a tweed sports jacket! Yes, my shoes are scuffed up Doc Martins. No, I haven't cut my hair in a long time.
It's funny but people are scared and it has nothing to do with long hair or your cool sounding sports jacket. I've got relatively short hair, dress shirt, slacks, polished shoes... And still people have the same reaction.

I think after a day of maddening appointments, unnaturally speeding at 70 on the highway in a roaring metal beast where any wrong move means death... After calming down with a news program on destruction and terror in the world, they go to pick up food out of an overwhelming selection in a crowd of strangers. Of course deep down people just are not relaxed...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'R')ecently bought a cheap used iPod - seller had some Alex Jones podcasts, we talked about WTC7 and I gave my peak oil rap. It's made walking/biking around suburbia much more interesting - has to, since suburbia by definition is duller than dishwater. So score one for insulating technology.
Hehehe, that's true MP3 players can spice things up. Some of them actually have very useful features too, like recording ability and picking up the radio. It's kind of funny, so far I've inherited two mp3 players from my wife... My latest one can record! :-D

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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby TheDude » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 17:57:29

From http://www.scie ncedaily.com/re leases/2006/01/ 060125082853.ht m:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hen the rats were given Haloperidol, an anti-psychotic, and Valporic acid, a mood stabiliser, the behavioural symptoms of T.gondii were reduced. They found the drugs were able to limit the 'suicidal feline' attraction by which the rats became less aware of the dangers of cats.


Very interesting - my Mom is on both of those medications, being a disabled and very antsy stroke victim. Used to smoke like a fiend, too. Maybe a patch would calm her down a bit more...? Or more of the Haloperidol. Too much and you go into a vegetative state, though.

Smoke like a fiend myself, with a pipe, gg3 and I championed the humble pipe in the smoking thread a while ago, he mentioned a Swedish study that found pipesmokers actually live longer than non-smokers. Never looked into the study's veracity. Too busy mellowing out to check up on more denial...you don't inhale with a pipe so your alveoli aren't subjected to all those emissions.

Love to hear music - including stuff from the gramaphone era! - but mostly like to listen to PO audio as I wander around. Gotta stay abreast. Maybe the effects cancel themselves out? Important thing is to keep moving around, though!
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 18:16:43

I think I would have to actively pick fights with strangers to find annoying people or be annoyed by them. In the grocery store, one of the few public places I frequent, when someone nearly runs into me or blocks me with their cart, I just laugh, as it certainly isn't worth being annoyed about.


But I admit my experience with people is probably unusual, in that I have never had significant bad experiences with people throughout my life. Even having lived in one of the largest cities in the country (Los Angeles) for about a dozen years, I did not have bad experiences with folks.


*shrug*


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Unread postby steam_cannon » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 18:52:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'V')ery interesting - my Mom is on both of those medications, being a disabled and very antsy stroke victim. Used to smoke like a fiend, too. Maybe a patch would calm her down a bit more...? Or more of the Haloperidol. Too much and you go into a vegetative state, though.
Well, as one article mentioned nicotine reduces side effects from some of these medications, so it might help from that angle as well as acting similarly to those mediations. So sure, it might help...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'S')moke like a fiend myself, with a pipe, gg3 and I championed the humble pipe in the smoking thread a while ago, he mentioned a Swedish study that found pipesmokers actually live longer than non-smokers. Never looked into the study's veracity. Too busy mellowing out to check up on more denial...you don't inhale with a pipe so your alveoli aren't subjected to all those emissions.
Here's a link about pipe smoking...

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Pipe smokers like to claim they live longer than nonsmokers. More than four decades after the fact, they’ll still cite a 1964 Surgeon General’s report on smoking, which stated: “Death rates for pipe smokers are little if at all higher than for non-smokers …

That report and others that followed warned of negative health effects for practitioners, including oral and lung cancers, but there’s a state of mind—a “calm and objective judgment in all human affairs,” according to pipe smoker Albert Einstein—that enthusiasts claim the habit enhances.

“Pipe smokers are just more relaxed people,” said Rich Lewis, the owner of Lewis Pipe and Tobacco. “Especially compared to cigarette smokers.”

http://www.rakemag.com/reporting/rakish ... ipe-dreams
So I think that tobacco, like coffee has a huge effect on society. And in my opinion, a positive effect.

Something amusing, sometimes I make clay pipes for friends...
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'L')ove to hear music - including stuff from the gramaphone era! - but mostly like to listen to PO audio as I wander around. Gotta stay abreast. Maybe the effects cancel themselves out? Important thing is to keep moving around, though!
Moving around is good... :-D
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby steam_cannon » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 19:22:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I') think I would have to actively pick fights with strangers to find annoying people or be annoyed by them.

:)

Yeah well, I'm not surprised if people like you Ludi! You're avatar's a cute chick...

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It's not like you're avatar is an old man wandering though fields (probably mumbling to himself)...

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Hehehe :lol:
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby Narz » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 19:28:12

Thought it was a good article steam.

I reposted it on this gaming forum that began my virtual-communication addiction.

Don't expect many comments but thought it was worth sharing.
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Re: 7 Reasons The 21st Century Is Making Us Miserable

Unread postby steam_cannon » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 19:53:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'T')hought it was a good article steam.

I reposted it on this gaming forum that began my virtual-communication addiction.

Don't expect many comments but thought it was worth sharing.
Glad you liked it! It appealed to the curmudgeon in me...

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An alternative title might be "This is why you're all losers!", but then I guess people might have been even less inclined to read it... :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'I')t could be seen as somewhat anti-technology (particularly Internet communications technology) but the evidence (as well as honest introspection, for me anyway) does seem to support the conclusion that the ease (and yet also simplification & impoverishment) of communications (and blocking out those one doesn't want to deal with) is not particularly good for us (intellectually or emotionally).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')lashdot: http://tinyurl.com/2ml6l3
Quote:
"The Guardian is reporting that a recent study at King's College indicates that the average IQ loss of email users was 10 points (or six points more than cannabis users). Details on The Register as well. The Register has a related story about how computers make kids dumb and an apparent "problem-solving deficit disorder" observed in children who use computers. I thought it was television that rotted your brain?"
Excellent incite and link...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('slashdot', 'M')y 5 year old son has consistently been called "best in class" and "brilliant student" by his schools' staff - obviously to my pride and joy ;-) - being an IT guy, a gamer, as well as a dad, I have always taken a relaxed attitude towards pc use and gameplay. He never really played anything too challenging or involving - a bit of tuxracer, a bit of sonic, etc. Until a few weeks ago, when some of his schoolfriends started playing some more involving games, and he wanted to keep up. "Bionicles" was duly installed, and away he went.

We are now 2 weeks later, and my wife and I just - like, 30 mins ago - finished a discussion about how to remove the game from the pc whilst making it look like an accident.... His schoolwork has plummeted, his teachers are really upset - his concentration is just gone, and he isn't interested in playing, arts, crafts, friends or schoolwork. He is a completely different boy, and its really worrying us.

Make of it what you will, but this gave me a first-hand look at the whole issue, and has me pretty disturbed.

Slashdot: http://tinyurl.com/2ml6l3


So I guess that's another problem of modern life, school work is probably seeming harder for kids because concentration is being eroded by games, tv and other distractions...
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