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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby heroineworshipper » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 22:22:51

Cramer had a better idea. Monetize $250 billion of debt. This isn't physics. It's government. They can make up any stimulus they want.

There will be no $1600 check.
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby Don35 » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 23:26:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here will be no $1600 check.


Yeah. We do seem to be counting our chickens before they hatch!!
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby Pops » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 23:47:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Don35', '[')Yeah. We do seem to be counting our chickens before they hatch!!

Yea, counting on the one in your hand is best, but considering what to do with the two from the Bush may be good exercise too.
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby SILENTTODD » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 00:01:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'F')ill your pantries.


I would agree this is good advice for a family with kids to feed.

But I am personally past that point in my life, and as a single person I would, or will, use the cash to add to my collection of precious metal coins. My favorites to hold are the ¼ and 1/10 ounce American Eagle gold coins, face value of $5 and $10. Gold will hold it value relative to necessities in about any scenario possible; and these smaller size coins are much easier to negotiate with, and of course you can buy more of them than the 1 oz size coins.

Gold is easier for me to transport than a lot food if I am forced to relocate sooner than I plan.
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby roccman » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 00:19:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', '
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Dont' worry about your debt anymore, especially if you are already up to your ass in debt. Don't give this money to the credit card companies or the banks that are going under and taking you with them. Invest in the only thing that matters, which will get you through the next two years. That, and a good sleeping bag.


Excellent advise!

I have advocated for this before.

Buy what you need now even if it means you go in debt.

If you default - so what...our government will.

Your FICO is not that important - and even if it was, the banks can't lend to you...THEY WILL DEFAULT TOO!!
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 00:39:23

Raining 150 billion dollars over the USA might just keep this final feeding frenzy foaming for another year... then, well then.... heh... Hillary gets to clean up the mess.

And what a clean up it will be too! The idiotic oil wars, PO, The housing bubble... etc... debt... a monumental mess unlike any the USA has ever faced... and all but PO brought on solely and intentionally by Bush and his small circle of buddies. Amazing what people will fall for.
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby seahorse » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 02:57:14

If you aren't worried about the credit crisis, the very fact that the gov't is getting ready to give every frickin one of us money for nothing should be a flashing red light, with sirens sounding. THIS IS A RED ALERT! There is no bigger sign of a crisis than the Romans throwing bread out to the citizens. TAKE ACTION NOW!

I personally always look for trigger points to make key decisions, the gov't throwing out money to prevent a crisis is one of them. A trigger point is that point in planning that if a pre-condition happens, you take a preplanned action. This is a trigger point. When the gov't passes out free money bc of a admitted financial crisis, you are an absolute fool if you don't take it seriously. This is not the tech bubble of 2001 (which was caused by overblown tech stock prices and didn't affect banks). This is a financial crisis where the world's largest banks may literally go bankrupt - this effects everyone!! The fact that experts worldwide reckon this as comparable to the Great Depression should be scary enough, and now that the gov't is discarding Adam Smith and literally giving money away for nothing to prevent a financial collapse from happening should scare the crap out of you. Take this seriously.

The gov't is getting ready to give everyone a bonus, who knows how much. Spend it wisely by investing in food. If you have credit card debts, car payments etc, do not use this money to pay on those regular bills, do not buy anything like a t.v. etc., do not take a vacation with it. Make this money work for you and BUY SOME FOOD! Especially if you have kids or anyone depending on you. This is a real opportunity to get ahead in the preparation game, use it wisely. Food is much more important than matches, solar, bullets, any other preparation. Food is the base level of survival, everything else is secondary! It is the reason why we work, EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY!

Buy food for the following reasons:

(1) I see people lose their jobs in the best of environments, and when they do, they don't have money to buy groceries! Don't let that happen to you. Most jobs will likely be in jeopardy over the next 2 years. Unless you are a gov't employee or working for a utility, a doctor or a nurse, your job security isn't very good. Buy food now, bc you may not have a monthly income to buy it later;

(2) Food prices are continually going up, call it stagflation or whatever. They will not be going down in the foreseeable future. Buy food now, bc food prices will never be cheaper. Buy it now while its available, at the best prices, and while you have a windfall to buy it;

(3) Even if you file for bankruptcy someday, they are not going to take the food in your pantry; its never happened. Food is not personal property which can be seized. Anything else you own can be seized. Buy food that you can keep and take it with you no matter what happens. You will not regret it.

(4) Even if you lose everything and were left in a tent city, if you have a sleeping bag and FOOD, you will be okay. If you have food, what money you do have coming in can be used to rebuild your life and buy other things. FOOD is security in the worse of times.

(5) If we get $600 or more gov't play money, you can buy a lot of food with this. Use every penny on food. A 50lb bag of rice is about $20, same for a 50lb bag of beans. Peanut butter, honey, canned goods, all will last a long time and are fairly cheap. Buy it and sock it away. Hold it for two years as a security, if nothing has happened by then, start eating it, no big deal.

(6) Food is the best investment right now, the only thing guaranteed to hold its value and, if the worse does happen, may be the only thing of value.

Do not waste this opportunity. If you don't have a store of food, get it now while you can! Don't waste this money by sending it to the credit card company or anyone else. Pay yourself with it by investing it in you, literally, and your family. You will not regret it.

The only thing you cannot do without in your life is food. This is a freebee, use it wisely.
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby easterisland » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 13:57:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'I')f you aren't worried about the credit crisis, the very fact that the gov't is getting ready to give every frickin one of us money for nothing should be a flashing red light, with sirens sounding. THIS IS A RED ALERT! There is no bigger sign of a crisis than the Romans throwing bread out to the citizens. TAKE ACTION NOW!

I personally always look for trigger points to make key decisions, the gov't throwing out money to prevent a crisis is one of them. A trigger point is that point in planning that if a pre-condition happens, you take a preplanned action. This is a trigger point. When the gov't passes out free money bc of a admitted financial crisis, you are an absolute fool if you don't take it seriously. This is not the tech bubble of 2001 (which was caused by overblown tech stock prices and didn't affect banks). This is a financial crisis where the world's largest banks may literally go bankrupt - this effects everyone!! The fact that experts worldwide reckon this as comparable to the Great Depression should be scary enough, and now that the gov't is discarding Adam Smith and literally giving money away for nothing to prevent a financial collapse from happening should scare the crap out of you. Take this seriously.

The gov't is getting ready to give everyone a bonus, who knows how much. Spend it wisely by investing in food. If you have credit card debts, car payments etc, do not use this money to pay on those regular bills, do not buy anything like a t.v. etc., do not take a vacation with it. Make this money work for you and BUY SOME FOOD! Especially if you have kids or anyone depending on you. This is a real opportunity to get ahead in the preparation game, use it wisely. Food is much more important than matches, solar, bullets, any other preparation. Food is the base level of survival, everything else is secondary! It is the reason why we work, EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY!

Buy food for the following reasons:

(1) I see people lose their jobs in the best of environments, and when they do, they don't have money to buy groceries! Don't let that happen to you. Most jobs will likely be in jeopardy over the next 2 years. Unless you are a gov't employee or working for a utility, a doctor or a nurse, your job security isn't very good. Buy food now, bc you may not have a monthly income to buy it later;

(2) Food prices are continually going up, call it stagflation or whatever. They will not be going down in the foreseeable future. Buy food now, bc food prices will never be cheaper. Buy it now while its available, at the best prices, and while you have a windfall to buy it;

(3) Even if you file for bankruptcy someday, they are not going to take the food in your pantry; its never happened. Food is not personal property which can be seized. Anything else you own can be seized. Buy food that you can keep and take it with you no matter what happens. You will not regret it.

(4) Even if you lose everything and were left in a tent city, if you have a sleeping bag and FOOD, you will be okay. If you have food, what money you do have coming in can be used to rebuild your life and buy other things. FOOD is security in the worse of times.

(5) If we get $600 or more gov't play money, you can buy a lot of food with this. Use every penny on food. A 50lb bag of rice is about $20, same for a 50lb bag of beans. Peanut butter, honey, canned goods, all will last a long time and are fairly cheap. Buy it and sock it away. Hold it for two years as a security, if nothing has happened by then, start eating it, no big deal.

(6) Food is the best investment right now, the only thing guaranteed to hold its value and, if the worse does happen, may be the only thing of value.

Do not waste this opportunity. If you don't have a store of food, get it now while you can! Don't waste this money by sending it to the credit card company or anyone else. Pay yourself with it by investing it in you, literally, and your family. You will not regret it.

The only thing you cannot do without in your life is food. This is a freebee, use it wisely.


So are stocks going to drop like a rock this coming Monday?
Will Bush's Tax Rebates boost the economy as a quick fix?

Will Gold really skyrocket to $1500USD?

Is the US Dollar going to implode any time soon?

Is this really the beginning of the end?
or anyother cry wolves? I wanna know
when it REALLY happens for good so
I can get front seat tickets to
the supernova of mankind
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby roccman » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 14:14:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'I')f you aren't worried about the credit crisis, the very fact that the gov't is getting ready to give every frickin one of us money for nothing should be a flashing red light, with sirens sounding. THIS IS A RED ALERT! There is no bigger sign of a crisis than the Romans throwing bread out to the citizens. TAKE ACTION NOW!

I personally always look for trigger points to make key decisions, the gov't throwing out money to prevent a crisis is one of them. A trigger point is that point in planning that if a pre-condition happens, you take a preplanned action. This is a trigger point. When the gov't passes out free money bc of a admitted financial crisis, you are an absolute fool if you don't take it seriously. This is not the tech bubble of 2001 (which was caused by overblown tech stock prices and didn't affect banks). This is a financial crisis where the world's largest banks may literally go bankrupt - this effects everyone!! The fact that experts worldwide reckon this as comparable to the Great Depression should be scary enough, and now that the gov't is discarding Adam Smith and literally giving money away for nothing to prevent a financial collapse from happening should scare the crap out of you. Take this seriously.

The gov't is getting ready to give everyone a bonus, who knows how much. Spend it wisely by investing in food. If you have credit card debts, car payments etc, do not use this money to pay on those regular bills, do not buy anything like a t.v. etc., do not take a vacation with it. Make this money work for you and BUY SOME FOOD! Especially if you have kids or anyone depending on you. This is a real opportunity to get ahead in the preparation game, use it wisely. Food is much more important than matches, solar, bullets, any other preparation. Food is the base level of survival, everything else is secondary! It is the reason why we work, EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY!

Buy food for the following reasons:

(1) I see people lose their jobs in the best of environments, and when they do, they don't have money to buy groceries! Don't let that happen to you. Most jobs will likely be in jeopardy over the next 2 years. Unless you are a gov't employee or working for a utility, a doctor or a nurse, your job security isn't very good. Buy food now, bc you may not have a monthly income to buy it later;

(2) Food prices are continually going up, call it stagflation or whatever. They will not be going down in the foreseeable future. Buy food now, bc food prices will never be cheaper. Buy it now while its available, at the best prices, and while you have a windfall to buy it;

(3) Even if you file for bankruptcy someday, they are not going to take the food in your pantry; its never happened. Food is not personal property which can be seized. Anything else you own can be seized. Buy food that you can keep and take it with you no matter what happens. You will not regret it.

(4) Even if you lose everything and were left in a tent city, if you have a sleeping bag and FOOD, you will be okay. If you have food, what money you do have coming in can be used to rebuild your life and buy other things. FOOD is security in the worse of times.

(5) If we get $600 or more gov't play money, you can buy a lot of food with this. Use every penny on food. A 50lb bag of rice is about $20, same for a 50lb bag of beans. Peanut butter, honey, canned goods, all will last a long time and are fairly cheap. Buy it and sock it away. Hold it for two years as a security, if nothing has happened by then, start eating it, no big deal.

(6) Food is the best investment right now, the only thing guaranteed to hold its value and, if the worse does happen, may be the only thing of value.

Do not waste this opportunity. If you don't have a store of food, get it now while you can! Don't waste this money by sending it to the credit card company or anyone else. Pay yourself with it by investing it in you, literally, and your family. You will not regret it.

The only thing you cannot do without in your life is food. This is a freebee, use it wisely.


Nice post again Seahorse - one of the very few around here who "get it".

I just nitrogen packed 50 3.5 gallon buckets with corn/wheat/soybean/and oats...about 700 pounds of food...cost around $300.

Get food now while it is available - then get a 38 and 1,000 rounds and a good (10f degree or lower) sleeping bag.
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby easterisland » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 14:23:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'I')f you aren't worried about the credit crisis, the very fact that the gov't is getting ready to give every frickin one of us money for nothing should be a flashing red light, with sirens sounding. THIS IS A RED ALERT! There is no bigger sign of a crisis than the Romans throwing bread out to the citizens. TAKE ACTION NOW!

I personally always look for trigger points to make key decisions, the gov't throwing out money to prevent a crisis is one of them. A trigger point is that point in planning that if a pre-condition happens, you take a preplanned action. This is a trigger point. When the gov't passes out free money bc of a admitted financial crisis, you are an absolute fool if you don't take it seriously. This is not the tech bubble of 2001 (which was caused by overblown tech stock prices and didn't affect banks). This is a financial crisis where the world's largest banks may literally go bankrupt - this effects everyone!! The fact that experts worldwide reckon this as comparable to the Great Depression should be scary enough, and now that the gov't is discarding Adam Smith and literally giving money away for nothing to prevent a financial collapse from happening should scare the crap out of you. Take this seriously.

The gov't is getting ready to give everyone a bonus, who knows how much. Spend it wisely by investing in food. If you have credit card debts, car payments etc, do not use this money to pay on those regular bills, do not buy anything like a t.v. etc., do not take a vacation with it. Make this money work for you and BUY SOME FOOD! Especially if you have kids or anyone depending on you. This is a real opportunity to get ahead in the preparation game, use it wisely. Food is much more important than matches, solar, bullets, any other preparation. Food is the base level of survival, everything else is secondary! It is the reason why we work, EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY!

Buy food for the following reasons:

(1) I see people lose their jobs in the best of environments, and when they do, they don't have money to buy groceries! Don't let that happen to you. Most jobs will likely be in jeopardy over the next 2 years. Unless you are a gov't employee or working for a utility, a doctor or a nurse, your job security isn't very good. Buy food now, bc you may not have a monthly income to buy it later;

(2) Food prices are continually going up, call it stagflation or whatever. They will not be going down in the foreseeable future. Buy food now, bc food prices will never be cheaper. Buy it now while its available, at the best prices, and while you have a windfall to buy it;

(3) Even if you file for bankruptcy someday, they are not going to take the food in your pantry; its never happened. Food is not personal property which can be seized. Anything else you own can be seized. Buy food that you can keep and take it with you no matter what happens. You will not regret it.

(4) Even if you lose everything and were left in a tent city, if you have a sleeping bag and FOOD, you will be okay. If you have food, what money you do have coming in can be used to rebuild your life and buy other things. FOOD is security in the worse of times.

(5) If we get $600 or more gov't play money, you can buy a lot of food with this. Use every penny on food. A 50lb bag of rice is about $20, same for a 50lb bag of beans. Peanut butter, honey, canned goods, all will last a long time and are fairly cheap. Buy it and sock it away. Hold it for two years as a security, if nothing has happened by then, start eating it, no big deal.

(6) Food is the best investment right now, the only thing guaranteed to hold its value and, if the worse does happen, may be the only thing of value.

Do not waste this opportunity. If you don't have a store of food, get it now while you can! Don't waste this money by sending it to the credit card company or anyone else. Pay yourself with it by investing it in you, literally, and your family. You will not regret it.

The only thing you cannot do without in your life is food. This is a freebee, use it wisely.


Nice post again Seahorse - one of the very few around here who "get it".

I just nitrogen packed 50 3.5 gallon buckets with corn/wheat/soybean/and oats...about 700 pounds of food...cost around $300.

Get food now while it is available - then get a 38 and 1,000 rounds and a good (10f degree or lower) sleeping bag.


YHeah and how long will that last you? A few months, a few years?
You are still delaying the inevitable. Life as we know it does not exists in a vacuum, you are not an isolated one man island to yourself. You can prepare as much as you want, in the ends its still no use....
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby Picklepuss » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 14:28:43

I wonder why no one in the MSM talks about Where the money is coming from when the US is bankrupt!

Prep, prep, prep--and, don't tell anyone physically near you that you are doing so.
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby roccman » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 14:30:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('easterisland', '
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YHeah and how long will that last you? A few months, a few years?
You are still delaying the inevitable. Life as we know it does not exists in a vacuum, you are not an isolated one man island to yourself. You can prepare as much as you want, in the ends its still no use....


Ummmmm yeah ...sure...whatever dude.

So exactly how much reading have you done specific to permaculture, survival tactics, off grid living.

Are you going somewhere with this or just doing laps?
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby easterisland » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 14:33:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('easterisland', '
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YHeah and how long will that last you? A few months, a few years?
You are still delaying the inevitable. Life as we know it does not exists in a vacuum, you are not an isolated one man island to yourself. You can prepare as much as you want, in the ends its still no use....


Ummmmm yeah ...sure...whatever dude.

So exactly how much reading have you done specific to permaculture, survival tactics, off grid living.

Are you going somewhere with this or just doing laps?


You think you have it all figured out huh?

http://eroei2008.googlepages.com/home2008.htm

Two words for you: POPULATION DENSITY

It's NOT gonna work like you planned it to be...
There will be a massive dieoff, and more than likely
you will not be immune
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby roccman » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 14:39:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('easterisland', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('easterisland', '
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YHeah and how long will that last you? A few months, a few years?
You are still delaying the inevitable. Life as we know it does not exists in a vacuum, you are not an isolated one man island to yourself. You can prepare as much as you want, in the ends its still no use....


Ummmmm yeah ...sure...whatever dude.

So exactly how much reading have you done specific to permaculture, survival tactics, off grid living.

Are you going somewhere with this or just doing laps?


You think you have it all figured out huh?

http://eroei2008.googlepages.com/home2008.htm

Two words for you: POPULATION DENSITY

It's NOT gonna work like you planned it to be...
There will be a massive dieoff, and more than likely
you will not be immune


Really - a die off - whatz that?
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby easterisland » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 14:51:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('easterisland', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('easterisland', '
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YHeah and how long will that last you? A few months, a few years?
You are still delaying the inevitable. Life as we know it does not exists in a vacuum, you are not an isolated one man island to yourself. You can prepare as much as you want, in the ends its still no use....


Ummmmm yeah ...sure...whatever dude.

So exactly how much reading have you done specific to permaculture, survival tactics, off grid living.

Are you going somewhere with this or just doing laps?


You think you have it all figured out huh?

http://eroei2008.googlepages.com/home2008.htm

Two words for you: POPULATION DENSITY

It's NOT gonna work like you planned it to be...
There will be a massive dieoff, and more than likely
you will not be immune


Really - a die off - whatz that?


You can act funny if you want...
But knowing PO does not make you
immune to the effects and intricacies
of post energy society no matter
how much you wish it to be so...

Just ask Thomas Andrews.

Who's that I hear you say?


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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby roccman » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 17:37:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('easterisland', '
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You can act funny if you want...
But knowing PO does not make you
immune to the effects and intricacies
of post energy society no matter
how much you wish it to be so...

Just ask Thomas Andrews.

Who's that I hear you say?


LINKy


Well bro...if you believe we are all gonna die...then why are you here?

I believe luck favors the prepared. That is why I am here.

Currently my life partner and I have amassed around 10 years of foor for 6-8 people.

I believe soon a die off will ensue.

If one can hunker down for a spell...then emerge later...a new life begins.

Can ya dig it brother?
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby TheTurtle » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 18:04:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'I')f one can hunker down for a spell...then emerge later...a new life begins.

Can ya dig it brother?


Sort of like that old joke with the punchline, "I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun YOU." :P
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby roccman » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 18:11:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'I')f one can hunker down for a spell...then emerge later...a new life begins.

Can ya dig it brother?


Sort of like that old joke with the punchline, "I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun YOU." :P


You nailed it hardshell!!
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby Pops » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 18:32:24

Easter, don’t quote the entire post you want to respond to – it makes my finger tired scrolling for no reason.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '"')I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun YOU." :P


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('as Pops on 1/5/05', 'L')ike the story goes - you don't have to outrun the bear, just the other guy.


Some other guy mentioned the fact that all plans go out the window with the first shot.

Does that mean an army doesn’t march on its stomach?

Or one with a way to restock is better off than one without?

Or that one with a little stock is better off than one reliant on Mickey D’s supply truck?

Certainly none of us are immune, but some are taking steps to prepare as they see fit.

What is your course Easter?
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Re: Helo Ben dropping $1600 checks - what to do?

Unread postby roccman » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 18:36:17

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Certainly none of us are immune, but some are taking steps to prepare as they see fit.

What is your course Easter?


Getting away from large populated areas...

growing food...

and getting to know the neighbors...

Are great places to start.

Oh - and having an opened mind is helpful too.
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