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CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby NWMossBack » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:42:53

I'm not sure if this is an indication that peak oil has gone mainstream, or is being trivialized as adolescent fantasy.

Frontlines: Fuel of War

Anyone heard of this game yet? The developers must have spent a lot of time on this site!
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby NWMossBack » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:51:19

Holy crap! Check out the doomer porn in this trailer:

Youtube - Frontlines: Fuel of War
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby crossthread » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 14:10:15

The "game" is still a beta.. I'm invovled as one of the Beta testers...
Some real cool weapons in it..
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby Mechler » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 14:19:59

WOW! These guys definitely definitely spent time here, read Kunstler, etc.

As a video game player myself, I think this could have a significant impact on the perception of peak oil by the youth who play it. Especially if it turns out to be a very good game. Hopefully, the game will have more peak oil references spread through it in cut scenes, etc.
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby Mechler » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 14:23:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('crossthread', 'T')he "game" is still a beta.. I'm invovled as one of the Beta testers...
Some real cool weapons in it..
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How did you score that? How's the game so far? From the gameplay video I saw, it looks like a cross between Call of Duty and Halo.
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby NWMossBack » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 14:44:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') guess it will be another just another 1st person shooter. Now if it were combined with a strategy game where you fight for limited resources that would be cool. Like beans and bugout houses, or better yet human flesh and people farms :twisted:

Can't wait to get my "Sims 2: Zombie Invasion" expansion pack.
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby DarkDawg » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 14:56:02

Life imitates art.

Love the zombie horde attack on the truck - it's like something right out of the pages of PO.com!
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby gampy » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 15:22:50

What is interesting is the premise that war is necessary when the oil runs dry. Is it priming the populace for more Iraq's?

I can imagine that America's Army (the US Army video game) will begin creating missions in oil producing regions that play off the peak-oil fear. If they have not already.

I think the paradigm shift is starting. The populace is starting to become ready to accept the pragmatic, real reasons for the US forward foreign policy. No more "spreading liberty and democracy" lip service bullshit. People are beginning to understand that their way of life is in danger and are accepting the reasons for the US foreign policy initiatives in the Middle east, and other places. Or the rejection of Kyoto,

Good or bad , I don't know.

Looks like a cool game though.
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby jboogy » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 16:07:52

Gampy wrote$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') think the paradigm shift is starting. The populace is starting to become ready to accept the pragmatic, real reasons for the US forward foreign policy. No more "spreading liberty and democracy" lip service bullshit.


I think the populace has been, and will always be, ready to accept the real reasons. Everyone knew deep down what Iraq was about,you just can't say or admit it. The Christians especially can't admit it's about grabbing resources, the hypocrisy would be too much to bear.Who's oil would Jesus steal? I think too alot of fundamentalist , southern baptist type christians absolutely love that Muslims are being massacred.I'll bet neanderthals killed each other over which cave-bear to worship. I don't think you'll see the gubmint' ever publicly admit that they're invading or killing a country for oil, our declarations that we're doing it to fight terrorism and spread democracy is what enables some of our allies to pretend they believe us , thus lending a stinky air of legitamacy to what we do.
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby Twilight » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 16:11:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NWMossBack', 'T')he developers must have spent a lot of time on this site!

How many sites like this are focus groups run by think tanks?
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby gampy » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 16:17:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', '[')b]Gampy wrote$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') think the paradigm shift is starting. The populace is starting to become ready to accept the pragmatic, real reasons for the US forward foreign policy. No more "spreading liberty and democracy" lip service bullshit.


I think the populace has been, and will always be, ready to accept the real reasons. Everyone knew deep down what Iraq was about,you just can't say or admit it. The Christians especially can't admit it's about grabbing resources, the hypocrisy would be too much to bear.Who's oil would Jesus steal? I think too alot of fundamentalist , southern baptist type christians absolutely love that Muslims are being massacred.I'll bet neanderthals killed each other over which cave-bear to worship. I don't think you'll see the gubmint' ever publicly admit that they're invading or killing a country for oil, our declarations that we're doing it to fight terrorism and spread democracy is what enables some of our allies to pretend they believe us , thus lending a stinky air of legitamacy to what we do.


Yeah, I think deep down, even the most naive in America understood what the US foreign policy is all about, but now it's starting to come out in the open. The media, and the public officials are at the point where a big lie is not necessary anymore. Kind of like the pregnant daughter syndrome. The bulge in her belly can't be hidden anymore, and people either choose to ignore it for their own morals' sake, or are now acknowledging it without really acknowledging it. Kind of like the drunk in the family. Everyone knows, and understands, but everyone kind of accepts it or allows it to go on. Except the drunk is starting to cause more overt problems that are harder to ignore. That tipping point when reality says..."look at me! You can't ignore me anymore!".
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby jboogy » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 16:37:39

Gampy wrote$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'K')ind of like the drunk in the familyExcept the drunk is starting to cause more overt problems that are harder to ignore.


Good analogy :lol: but yet it makes me :(
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby mos6507 » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 18:46:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NWMossBack', 'H')oly crap! Check out the doomer porn in this trailer:
Youtube - Frontlines: Fuel of War


The trailer looks a lot cooler than the game. The game seems to put forth the idea that in an oil-strapped future that the military will be able to fight with gas-guzzling tanks, copters, jets, and so on. I just don't see it. I see it reverting back to a lot of small arms fire like something pre WWI.
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby NWMossBack » Fri 18 Jan 2008, 19:17:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'T')he game seems to put forth the idea that in an oil-strapped future that the military will be able to fight with gas-guzzling tanks, copters, jets, and so on. I just don't see it. I see it reverting back to a lot of small arms fire like something pre WWI.
In the time frame given (2030?) governments will still have plenty of oil - or they will cease to be players on the international stage. In my opinion the US deployed troops to Iraq to ensure that the government has fuel at least through the end of this century, not to squander the last drops of cheap oil on suburbanites and their three ton grocery haulers. Also had to make sure Russia and China did not get there first for the very same reason. The gulf is now our SPR II. 8)
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Re: CNN: The End of Oil is Just a Game

Unread postby mos6507 » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 06:39:57

I find it depressing that there is a growing admission from the general public that the major oil producers are entering a resource cold-war and yet we cling to our SUVs like a teat. Cognitive dissonance at its best.
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