[Plantagenet]

The deterioration of the pension system in the US is one of the most depressing things going down in our glorious country.

Many older people are going to get screwed over by their companies, and social security is going to go bust.

Sadly, this is another situation where both the dems and the republicans have failed the US public.

[bodigami]

no work no food I guess... kind of fair

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he deterioration of the pension system in the US is one of the most depressing things going down in our glorious country.

Many older people are going to get screwed over by their companies, and social security is going to go bust.

Sadly, this is another situation where both the dems and the republicans have failed the US public.

[Hawkcreek]

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[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'n')o work no food I guess... kind of fair

[Daculling]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', 'E')ncouraging to see. This new generation will do well in the fuck-everybody-else world.

[Hawkcreek]

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[Daculling]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', 'B')ut many boomers trusted the government - which is pretty damned stupid, I suppose, so maybe they do deserve to starve.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')en X and on are not going to do well at all (PO and monetary problems aside). If SS goes on and the boomers get theirs there will be generational warfare.

[Byron100]

What I want to know what's going to happen when the unemployment rate climbs above 20, 25, 30% or more over the coming years as the Depression deepens without end....???

With tax receipts falling anywhere from 2 to 6 percent a year beginning right at the time the Boomers begin their collective drawdown of SS, what will the government do then? Raise taxes to the moon on the remaining workers? I think not, as people will just chose to go underground and work for cash, as many people do already.

And I don't care what SS is *supposed* to be...it is a *welfare* program, plain and simple. No money was actually set aside in individual accounts, it was just tossed into the general budget and rendered into useless IOUs which have no possibility of being paid back in a perpetually declining economy. This is why I get so upset when I hear boomers talking about "getting what's me and mine"...as that's basically telling me that you're out to get what's *mine*...and guess what?? You can get your **^&#^* money out of my cold, dead hands, as you ain't gonna get it any other way...

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd I don't care what SS is *supposed* to be...it is a *welfare* program, plain and simple. No money was actually set aside in individual accounts, it was just tossed into the general budget and rendered into useless IOUs which have no possibility of being paid back in a perpetually declining economy. This is why I get so upset when I hear boomers talking about "getting what's me and mine"...as that's basically telling me that you're out to get what's *mine*...and guess what?? You can get your **^&#^* money out of my cold, dead hands, as you ain't gonna get it any other way...

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e will get our SS, but I guess the youngens are screwed.

[I_Like_Plants]

I had a plan thought up in the 80s: If you as a white working class person are last in line for jobs after the minorities/immigrants have taken their pick, easy solution, you just shoot the immigrant/non-American whose job you want and take the job. A simple, grass-roots, patriotic solution. Somehow I haven't seen this discussed on CSPAN. Yet.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e will get our SS, but I guess the youngens are screwed.

[I_Like_Plants]

I think the US is going to pull a real Yugoslavia. And regardless of what the UN has done or tries to do, the Serbs, the true people, are winning. I see the same in the US - the European-Americans, the Real Americans who if not by direct lineage can at least trace Tribehood back to the Founding Fathers, are going to win and the non-people, the invaders, the non-Tribe, will be driven out of the good areas, the Southeast maybe left to drought and malaria, the water shut off to most of SoCal, etc. That will make this area I'm in a sort of disputed border area, and I'll be happy to do my part.

Many of the overlords running the US are not The People. They are Israeli, and other noxious groups, lately a large number of Chindians and as such, are not going to fare well as we pull a Yugoslavia. A lot of sellouts among our Tribe too, but they will get with the program or be dealt with. Thus, I see the coming divisions in the US as ones among tribes rather than among income levels so much. Notice the Boomers bitch the most about their taxes going to immigrants by which they mean non-tribe members, and "welfare queens" etc by which they mean again, not recent immigrants, but those who in their mental picture tend to be wearing afros or La Raza t-shirts. Yeah there's some bitching about "slackers" but 90% of the bitching by boomers is complaining about the foreign elements they'd like to see cleansed, and the flack the slackers get is for not showing evidence that they'll become the hard-fighting soldiers for our Tribe that they'll need to become.

I suppose a theory could be formulated showing that the conflicts in Yugoslavia were due to finances, but very very few will believe it.

[Daculling]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')No way will the Xer's cut off 78,000,000 Boomers SS. The Boomers are active politically for one and what about those inheritances the Xer's are planning on getting. NOT!

[Daculling]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')You bitch over like 7% of your income going into a program that has Survivors Benefits, Disability Benefits & Retirement Benefits? You will reap what you sow.

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', ' ')If the welfare state holds you will be sharing MY 7% with immigrants and their children. Just look to the south to see how this form of socialism works out.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'Y')ou will reap what you sow.

[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'I') see the same in the US - the European-Americans, the Real Americans who if not by direct lineage can at least trace Tribehood back to the Founding Fathers, are going to win and the non-people, the invaders, the non-Tribe, will be driven out of the good areas, the Southeast maybe left to drought and malaria, the water shut off to most of SoCal, etc. That will make this area I'm in a sort of disputed border area, and I'll be happy to do my part.