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The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby threadbear » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 18:10:58

A confession:

Three nights ago, my husband and I lit a fire in the fireplace in the bedroom, turned out all the lights, slowly took our clothes off and slid under the covers. Then we turned the dial on the radio to Coast to Coast with Ian Punnett, and giggled like schoolchildren, as economists rattled off their predictions for 2008. It was awful, yet strangely exciting.


I should be sad, freaked out, worried for people, including myself, and how do I feel-- Like I've just taken a bracing cold shower, exhilerated....alive!

How sick in the head am I?
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby easterisland » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 18:23:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'A') confession:

Three nights ago, my husband and I lit a fire in the fireplace in the bedroom, turned out all the lights, slowly took our clothes off and slid under the covers. Then we turned the dial on the radio to Coast to Coast with Ian Punnett, and giggled like schoolchildren, as economists rattled off their predictions for 2008. It was awful, yet strangely exciting.


I should be sad, freaked out, worried for people, including myself, and how do I feel-- Like I've just taken a bracing cold shower, exhilerated....alive!

How sick in the head am I?


You laugh now I'll bet you'll feel most alive when the day comes
that your husband has to watch you 'perform' to get the loaf of rotten bread to feed him and keep him alive.
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby TheTurtle » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 18:26:19

Sick you may be, but you are not alone, threadbear. :) My wife often chastises me for "giggling like a schoolchild" when I hear particularly dire economic reports.

I guess there's a certain satisfaction as the rest of the world slowly figures out what you've known for years was bound to happen.

Don't worry, it will all be clear to everyone soon enough. And I don't really think either of us is sick.
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby threadbear » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 18:31:46

Tell me EasterIsland, Who is crazier, you or me? The collapse of a sick society is an invigorating idea, to me. The idea of deep misery and suffering, isn't at all appealing, though I can see where you might have gotten that impression.

There are actually quite a few people on this forum, (myself excluded) who may not admit to it, but are excited simply by the thought of people suffering, as it satisfies some kind of sense of justice or revenge. Now, if you harbor those sentiments, you should take a good look at them and try to gain some kind of understanding.

By the way, welcome. You're a newbie!
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby roccman » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 18:38:03

We deserve every bit of what is coming.

The pain will be exquisite.

My tribe needs for 6 billion to vanish.

So yes...bring it!
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby Hawkcreek » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 18:41:47

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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby TheTurtle » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 18:47:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('easterisland', '
')You laugh now I'll bet you'll feel most alive when the day comes
that your husband has to watch you 'perform' to get the loaf of rotten bread to feed him and keep him alive.


Please behave yourself. If you want to be nasty to threadbear, take it to the Hall of Flames.
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby threadbear » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 18:49:03

I think extremes of anything kind of interest me. When I was a little kid, just six years old, we had these encyclopedias with an entry AND an illustration for "Cannibals" I used to crawl out of bed every Saturday morning, turn to that dog eared page and read it over and over. And isn't that what we're going to experience, vicariously or directly; a clean departure from our modern Dick and Jane readers, back into the dogeared history of extreme events?
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby Jack » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 19:27:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')I should be sad, freaked out, worried for people, including myself, and how do I feel-- Like I've just taken a bracing cold shower, exhilerated....alive!

How sick in the head am I?


You're not sick; rather, you are entirely normal.

The feeling you describe consists of two components.

1) The adrenalin rush of danger. You have had a small dose. You will probably experience bigger doses. In this instance, bigger is better - if you survive.

2) The satisfaction of finding that you have prepared yourself for events that others are blind to. As matters develop, the risks and stakes grow larger, which augments condition (1) above.

When your life hangs by a thread, and a single mistake could lose everything - then (and only then) will you experience being fully alive.

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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 19:36:17

Please, wait till I'm dead and gone. Thank you.
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby RdSnt » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 20:25:47

Yupe, that is pretty much where I am as well. Old, not necessarily pretty, and been through the briar patch more than once.
I'm here for my son, his kids and my nieces.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', 'I')'m pretty old, and I find myself thinking sometimes, that I hope I will be alive to see the real collapse hit. I've been through exciting times before (Vietnam), and they do make you feel more alive.

And I am a mean old bastard who may come in handy to have around to help my kids and grandkids survive.
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby Pops » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 20:45:30

I went to Cent. CA over the holiday to attend a funeral, when I got back several neighbors asked me if we were ready to move back. I said if about 60% of the population was gone.

I do have some satisfaction knowing I beat the RE market and oil-economy there and silly folks that don’t read didn’t.

I also wonder why folks think the stock market is good when it below the inflation adjusted price over the last years.

Other stuff too…


But to answer your question; when I hear bad news I admit at least a feeling of vindication in my personal forecasts.

The excitement of total collapse is not quite the phrase I’d choose though to describe what I hope for though…
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby Twilight » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 22:25:24

I do not find it exciting as such, nor am I decided about the extent of collapse, but I do find some amusement and triumph in contemplating the situation of people who should know better. I think that is a natural human characteristic. And I think your attitude is healthy, threadbear, you don't have to look far for real nutcases.
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby billp » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 23:27:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e deserve every bit of what is coming.

The pain will be exquisite.

My tribe needs for 6 billion to vanish.


Perhaps
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 23:29:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') should be sad, freaked out, worried for people...


What good would that do for anyone ?
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby like_the_dinosaurs » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 23:34:08

It's pretty normal allthough someday's my feelings change as to how it is a good thing or not.

One thing is for sure they will be talking about this time in history for god knows how long. Something which as far as we know, has never happened on this scale before.

I guess it's like having a loved one die, people react in very different ways.
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby Heineken » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 23:36:41

The moment disaster becomes personal, the fun ends. The giggling ceases.

I don't feel excitement at the prospect of total collapse so much as anger---anger at the foolishness, stupidity, and greed that have brought us to this brink.

Also, I'm damned scared. I know that there's a very good chance I will be a participant in future nightmares, not merely an entertained spectator.
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby anarky321 » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 23:45:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'W')hen I was a little kid, just six years old, we had these encyclopedias with an entry AND an illustration for "Cannibals" I used to crawl out of bed every Saturday morning, turn to that dog eared page and read it over and over.


i laughed at that , you sick little puppy

p.s.: cannibalism is already rampant in places like the Congo, and its going to have a nice global resurgence once the food shortages really kick in. When the options run out it becomes the only option except death, and if there's one rule about life its that most people will do anything to keep living


p.p.s.: it doesnt taste like chicken...its much closer to pork than anything else
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Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse

Unread postby kokoda » Sun 06 Jan 2008, 01:17:57

Those very same profiteering scumbags that are making a fortune selling oil will be the same profiteering scumbags selling you week old mouldy bread after peakoil.

Nothing will get better after peakoil. There is certainly nothing to get excited about.
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