[mmasters]

One of the best articles I've read in a while. I think it gives a very accurate accessment of how things have played out up until this point and what's in store for the future.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7693

[DrBang]

Very good. I thought it had left some things out.

Example: how will he supply plateau of oil we are now seeing play out with the contents of this article? If PO is real and the global market is going hit a brick wall, how will the US sustain itself? Is this part of the plan?

Also, What about the global economic discontinuity that is now in progress, but still no seen but the bulk of society?

I have thoughts on this but my questions are related to what the TPTB think of these things in context of the elite shadow world government (really 50 odd filthy rich family dynasties) and their true agenda.

I have seen enough info on the thesis of the hidden elite to at least consider it might be true. It is after all human nature to covert power and then maintain it as long as possible.

The million dollar question I guess is: did the elite plan PO and the economic meltdown or were they as clueless as the visible administrations?

If they were so clever and downright ruthless in long term strategic planning, then surely they at least saw this coming? In one article I read that a die off was planned to drop world population down to 1-2 billion. This was well before I came across the geopolitical implications of PO and population overshoot. At the time I thought is was most irrational. Now, not so much.

For example, why does the US have such a huge research program that is ever increasing in biological and chemical weapons, keep stockpiles of them in larger numbers than anyone else, when there is no 'enemy' to rail against?

Keep em coming. If this thesis is true then I would like to understand it in its entirety.

Dr Bang

[mmasters]

Yeah from my observations I believe this is dead on and that the Iran agenda has been sidestepped. The US surely has to get reduced to 3rd world status to make way for a global regime to hold. It's not too far from it now. I think we're in for a more passive version of the agenda for now. I also still think they will institute a global financial meltdown, but without Iran they will need a new pretense for it. A natural disaster seems a likely candidate.

I think the most solid investment going forward is essential goods and services. The inflation from oil, the housing bubble and falling dollar will be channeled into basic goods and services, for this is the next level of control (beyond the immobilization of the first world via the housing bubble) Yet furthermore to add to the supply stress we have the wacky weather crop losses and the biofuel rage.

As for what long investment would survive best in a global credit crunch? I would have to guess on essential commodities and services too from their very nature. Also, if you look at the options for the common investor to get into the essential commodities space, they're almost non-existant!

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', ' ')I also still think they will institute a global financial meltdown, but without Iran they will need a new pretense for it. A natural disaster seems a likely candidate.

[vision-master]

I find it hard to believe a few people have that much control over world events?

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', ' ')I also still think they will institute a global financial meltdown, but without Iran they will need a new pretense for it. A natural disaster seems a likely candidate.

[shakespear1]

Yes, this is good

The argument proposed has strong internal logic which meshes well with the "show" we are observing.

As to the natural disaster. There was a story about a break into a South African nuclear facility by two teams of armed "specialists" ( can't think of a better word ). Apparently the story did not make the major networks or media initially. Finally it was picked up by NYT however not much more. Why? Who knows but the story surely is much more serious than a report on another bombing in Iraq.

Check it out. Keyword in GOOGLE "idaho samizdat south africa"

[mmasters]

Essential goods/commodities as in:
Wheat, Corn, Soybeans, Oil, Aluminum

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

Investing in more "hands on things" would be better. if the market crashes as many here are predicting then you've just thrown most of your money away.

Shares in your local co-operative or direct investing in a local clean up co. might be worth looking into. Investing in community plots where people rent space to grow food.

If its not something you can put your hands on like gold or silver (that increases its value while not directly in the market) then its something someone else can seize or redistribute.

Keeping in mind that most companies (banks and investment houses) will redistrubute losses and risk over a broad base of their prospects. Just like a store disrtibutes the cost of increased shipping to all their products (as part of their overhead) to keep one or two items from increasing exponentially.

If its not in your hands, its a pipe dream.

[Carlhole]

The first part of The Post-Bush Regime: A Prognosis really rings true IMO. I'm less sure of the direction Richard K. Moore takes with it - a globalist policy of die-off/population reduction. But I guess time will tell.

I searched "Richard K Moore" on Google and found his book, which some of you might be interested in:

Escaping The Matrix

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')��Richard Moore’s Escaping the Matrix is one of the most exciting books of ideas I’ve read in many years. I couldn’t put it down until I’d finished. He goes to the root cause of the cancer that is destroying life on our planet today. He does so with a simplicity that is deceptive and an argumentation accessible to anyone of a right mind. His proposals for escaping the Matrix are equally simple and at the same time profound. This is a book that needs to be widely read and debated.”
—F William Engdahl, author, A Century of War, Pluto Press.

“A brilliant historical expose of democracy as a smokescreen for continuing elite rule, followed by the most sensible ways to create it nevertheless. Couldn't be more timely or important.”
—Elisabet Sahtouris, author, EarthDance: Living Systems in Evolution

“Richard is both a gifted writer and wise seer. In Escaping the Matrix, he helps us really take the red pill and examine the awful tragedy of our current world situation. More importantly, he then shows us an exciting path we can actually take to create a world that works for everyone.”
—Jim Rough, author of Society’s Breakthrough

“Richard has succeeded in creating a single book that bridges humankind’s evolutionary history, contemporary crises, and a hopeful futures scenario—digging deep to fundamentals while addressing immediate concerns—providing an excellent scaffolding for participatory dialog on our collaboratively created future.”
—Larry Victor, futurist and social philosopher

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'I')nvesting in more "hands on things" would be better.

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'I') find it hard to believe a few people have that much control over world events?

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')he first part of The Post-Bush Regime: A Prognosis really rings true IMO. I'm less sure of the direction Richard K. Moore takes with it - a globalist policy of die-off/population reduction.

[threadbear]

The writer of this article could be absolutely correct, but his idea that the forces behind the curtain exercise total monolithic control, I question. They have the means, but do they actually have unitary and conflict free motivation? Provided this is true, what information are they drawing from, to implement plans and make decisions?

The ones who probably exercise the most control are those who provide the information, massage it, etc... for a desired result. The Cold War was influenced a great deal by false info fed to the executive, through the CIA. This is likely still happening. What bodies recently stopped the plan for an Iran invasion, dead, in it's tracks but the national intelligence estimate. Who is behind the demonization or deification of particular celebs, or politician, and who bumps them off? Who has the means, talent, tools, at their disposal?

The overarching controls are more dynamic and more in a state of flux than this writer allows for, though he may be partially right.

If you have a chance, you should watch this video.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Perfect_Spy







I think anyone who is interested in conspiracy should read The Lobster, a British online publication, that has been focussing on clandestine acitivity for a couple of decades.

"For this and other reasons, serious research into genuine conspiratorial networks has at worst been suppressed, as a rule been discouraged, and at best been looked upon with condescension by the academic community. (2) An entire dimension of political history and contemporary politics has thus been consistently neglected. (3)

http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/l29consp.htm

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DrBang', '
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The million dollar question I guess is: did the elite plan PO and the economic meltdown or were they as clueless as the visible administrations?

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')he first part of The Post-Bush Regime: A Prognosis really rings true IMO. I'm less sure of the direction Richard K. Moore takes with it - a globalist policy of die-off/population reduction.