[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '[')s]Almost[/s] everyone will be effected by PO. You little smug farmers that think you got the system beat don't understand the full impact of PO.

[Concerned]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', '^')
As I've said in other posts, I actually don't mind if people come right out and say they don't want us to use more oil. I've got no problem with that. But I find it dishonest to use peak oil as a guise for some other belief, such as wanting modern civilization to come crashing to a halt, or wanting us to stop polluting the air, etc.

The folks who want civilization to come crashing to a halt should just say so. They don't actually care how much oil is left in the ground, they just hope we can never get to it all because that would be a good impetus for civilization to come crashing to a halt. Since they don't actually care about how much oil is left in the ground, why do they care about peak oil? It's akin to a person who goes to church but does not actually care about the religion.

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'A')lmost everyone will be effected by PO. You little smug farmers that think you got the system beat don't understand the full impact of PO.

[shortonoil]

Our civilization is built and runs on oil. Oil is the highest net energy contributor with a low entropy that is known, and until we can find a substitute that can give an equal energy contribution with an equally low level of entropy, oil will remain the driving force of this culture. Thermodynamics guarantees it.

The Roman precious metal mines fueled their empire, and when their resources ran out the culture ran down. Ours is no different, and like the Romans we will typically not see this coming. The fall of the Roman Empire precipitated a thousand years of human suffering. Food production dropped, warfare became common place, disease proliferated, and ignorance triumphed. To champion a like event is the epitome of human ignorance and indifference, or the tell tale sign an increasingly sociopathic society.

[The_sky_is_falling]

Everyone will be effected by PO 99% will be affected in a negative way however I am aware of a very primitive place where the only way the locals will be effected is that they will not have their lands raped for resources and their people led astray by consumerism and everything else the modern world has to offer.

This place is Papua New Guinea. Admittedly there are many westernised areas in PNG however much of it is very untouched by the modern world. Come to think of it, they would be praying for PO to be an abrupt and catastrophic event rather than a drawn out process where economies switched to burning tar sands and more dirty coal as well as nukes etc. At least the catastrophic scenario would rid the world of the economic system that is raping it. This would then allow the world to start the long process of healing itself from the infection of mankind.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_sky_is_falling', 'E')veryone will be effected by PO 99% will be affected in a negative way however I am aware of a very primitive place where the only way the locals will be effected is that they will not have their lands raped for resources and their people led astray by consumerism and everything else the modern world has to offer.

This place is Papua New Guinea. Admittedly there are many westernised areas in PNG however much of it is very untouched by the modern world. Come to think of it, they would be praying for PO to be an abrupt and catastrophic event rather than a drawn out process where economies switched to burning tar sands and more dirty coal as well as nukes etc. At least the catastrophic scenario would rid the world of the economic system that is raping it. This would then allow the world to start the long process of healing itself from the infection of mankind.

[nocar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Roman precious metal mines fueled their empire, and when their resources ran out the culture ran down. Ours is no different, and like the Romans we will typically not see this coming. The fall of the Roman Empire precipitated a thousand years of human suffering. Food production dropped, warfare became common place, disease proliferated, and ignorance triumphed. To champion a like event is the epitome of human ignorance and indifference, or the tell tale sign an increasingly sociopathic society.