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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby EarthGamePlayer » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 02:46:38

Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby timbo » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 03:14:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '.')..So, I do not ask the question lightly. Why should glee at their demise be reproached?


No rending required, no party either. If you really don't get it then to paraphrase someone who did "I pity you the poverty of your soul".

Try considering the John Donne piece I quote regularly including in this thread, final stanzas repeated below

...any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind,
and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls;
it tolls for thee.
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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby Jack » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 10:08:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EarthGamePlayer', '
')Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.


It appears I have failed to communicate. Let me try again.


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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby Ayame » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 10:20:50

Well on the bright side, there will a bit more room in Bangladesh now for the survivors.

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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby IslandCrow » Mon 19 Nov 2007, 06:57:37

As bad as the situation is, this disaster is not a die off.

This year it is estimated that Bangladesh's population will grow by over 2.8 million this year, that is by about 7 750 a day. The latest death count that I have seen is 2 400, with some estimates that the total will be between 6 000 and 10 000. So we are looking at a small blimp equal to between 6 hours (reported death count) and 30 hours (max estimate) of population growth.

Given the scale of the disaster, and the minute amount that it will affect the over population situation, I can only say that I cannot begin to imagine the horrors when countries like Bangladesh actually start entering any die-off situation.
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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby Andrew_S » Mon 19 Nov 2007, 11:11:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Up to 10,000 dead, millions homeless in Bangladesh: officials

Sun Nov 18, 2:52 PM ET

BARGUNA, Bangladesh (AFP) - Up to 10,000 people are dead and millions homeless and hungry in cyclone-hit Bangladesh, officials said Sunday, as the army and aid workers battled to reach the country's devastated coast.
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Three days after cyclone Sidr tore into one of the world's poorest nations from the Bay of Bengal, rescue workers were still fighting their way through a landscape of flattened villages and traumatised crowds.

If the prognostications on this BB are half right, this will seem as almost nothing in the future. :(

Thanks to IslandCrow for giving us the population growth aspect.

It's all so terribly sad.

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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby nocar » Mon 19 Nov 2007, 12:14:44

Well, most of these people have lost their livelihoods as well. If the women starve, as many probably will, their fertility will go down. So maybe the dent in the population increase is a little larger than the sheer fatality numbers indicate.

I am not sure that is a silver lining or not.

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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 19 Nov 2007, 12:15:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..millions homeless in Bangladesh...

...a landscape of flattened villages and traumatised crowds.

Think of the vast scope of the misery. Imagine what these people face over the next few weeks. Katrina was a minor annoyance compared to this.
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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby Jack » Mon 19 Nov 2007, 16:36:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..millions homeless in Bangladesh...

...a landscape of flattened villages and traumatised crowds.

Think of the vast scope of the misery. Imagine what these people face over the next few weeks. Katrina was a minor annoyance compared to this.


Let us suppose that global population will decline to about 2 billion. Let us further suppose it is presently 6.5 billion. This implies a decline of 4.5 billion plus any growth tendencies.

Being painfully optimistic, let's use 30 years as the timeframe for this reduction. If we use a simplistic linear model, we get an implied rate of 150,000,000 per year.

So...one might suppose that we'll see a death rate on the order of 500,000 per day, every day, for decades.

I think it will be interesting to observe reactions to the upcoming realities. Most interesting indeed. 8)
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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby timbo » Mon 19 Nov 2007, 18:53:26

Reaction will be local in terms of concern/grief, global in terms of war for the scraps that are left :(
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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Fri 23 Nov 2007, 00:44:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', '
')I'll drink to that. And what's with all these people getting their panties in a bunch over what your saying? Hundreds of thousands die everyday... yet we're supposed to shed tears over these douchebags?

And to all the crybabies who are nagging at jack: Boo fucking hoo. Get over it. We all gotta go someday, like it or not. Crying about it solves nothing.


Bullshit. The lack of human decency or indeed the lack of respect for human life displayed here is appaling and makes one think of animals rather than humans.


It doesn't matter if you laugh or cry, they stay dead either way, so why bother? You can't change anything about the situation. What's done is done, no point crying about it. Why are people so bothered by death, anyways? Your conscioussness ends and you become worm food... big fucking deal, it's no better or worse than life. Death is not good or bad, it's just neutral. I'm not suicidal nor am I condoning suicide, but if I die then I die, no big deal. And if people laugh about my death, I don't care. I'd rather have people laughing than crying.
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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 23 Nov 2007, 01:40:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'I')t doesn't matter...blah, blah, blah...

Then why do you bother to post anything at all?
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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby btu2012 » Fri 23 Nov 2007, 13:56:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'S')o if a "low lying, poor country" gets hammered we should...party! [smilie=occasion14.gif] [smilie=occasion16.gif] [smilie=eusa_clap.gif]


I would bet that Jack is actually a pre-teen girl writing from her room while hugging teddy bears. Tsst, tsst !

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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby billg » Sun 25 Nov 2007, 19:33:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'Y')our conscioussness ends and you become worm food...


The whole world exists within your mind...your mind creates physical reality rather than physical reality creating your mind. Consciousness is all there is...it is the creator. This doesn't mean you won't become worm food in the end.
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Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked?

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 27 Nov 2007, 02:14:25

I only cry when the worms die ;-)

But seriously, hp7..., yours sounds like a wonderfully detached philosophy, but are actually saying that you would never shed one tear for any death, no matter how horrible or premature and no matter how dear the victim is to you? Most would not find such an attitude enlightened; most would find it disgustingly cold.

Should we ever have any concern about others, then? Should we mourn or be concerned about the passing of entire species? Of our own species? Of all complex life? Of all life?

Or are you only cavalier about loss of lives when they are poor brown people on the other side of the world??
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Bangladesh-Myanmar in standoff

Unread postby Munqi » Sun 09 Nov 2008, 07:31:23

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia- ... 33121.html

I guess we'll be seeing more of this in the future.
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Re: Bangladesh-Myanmar in standoff

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Sun 09 Nov 2008, 08:37:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'h')ttp://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacific/2008/11/20081194956933121.html

I guess we'll be seeing more of this in the future.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aljazeera', 'B')angladesh's border guards have been placed on high alert after reports that Myanmar strengthened its security along the 270km land border between the countries.

The move came as Myanmar's government said on Sunday that oil and gas exploration operations in contested waters in the Bay of Bengal had been completed.

Tensions have been simmering since Myanmar hired South Korea's Daewoo International Corporation to carry out the exploration in a stretch of the sea both countries claim, about 90km southwest of Bangladesh.
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Re: Bangladesh-Myanmar in standoff

Unread postby dorlomin » Sun 09 Nov 2008, 16:34:11

Shades of the Shat al Arabia waterway here. International law of maratime boundries is pretty complex stuff.
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Bangladesh Stock Market Crash

Unread postby eXpat » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 10:30:36

Will it spread?
Clash in Bangladesh as stocks dive
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')olice fire tear gas as thousands rally in capital, Dhaka, to vent their anger at record 9.25 per cent plunge in stocks.
Trading has been halted at Bangladesh's main stock exchange amid protests over the largest single day loss in the bourse's 55-year history.

The exchange halted trading on Monday as per orders from the Securities and Exchange Commission after the benchmark index plunged 9.25 per cent within the first hour of trading.

Buses of riot police were deployed to the stock exchange building in the capital Dhaka where protesters chanted slogans against the government and market regulators.

Some protesters burned vehicles as riot police struggled to keep control, firing tear gas and charging the crowd with batons.

Al Jazeera's Nicolas Haque, reporting from the capital, said: "Because Bangladesh's stock market is largely driven by individual retail investors, many investors have lost their savings."

Monirul Islam, an investor attending the protests, told the AFP news agency: "I lost $70,000 dollars. This is insane - my whole savings are gone."

"I poured all my money into the Dhaka stock exchange," Humayum Kabir, another Bangladeshi investor, said.

"The finance minister lured us into the stock market, he told us it was safe, but now we have lost everything. They artificially jacked up the prices of junk shares and now our savings have vanished," Kabir said.

Necessary correction

The country's stock exchange hit a record high of 8,918.51 on December 5, but it has so far lost 27.4 per cent, which many experts have called a necessary correction.

Tanvir Chowdhury, the editor of the online journal News from Bangladesh, told Al Jazeera: "One of the factors that could explain these dramatic losses is how the market has widened but the number of the shares does not match the expectations of the people waiting to buy. There is also a lot of speculation from investors who do not understand the stock market.

"Small time entrepreneurs who have little money to invest think they'll get a quick return out of the market by buying stocks without realising the real face value of the stock versus the performance of the companies they are buying from, but it doesn't work like that," Chowdhury said.

Prices of shares have suffered a series of slides since early December after the stock regulator and the central bank took measures to cool the market, prompting some street protests.

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Re: Bangladesh Stock Market Crash

Unread postby eXpat » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 10:32:31

Riots Erupt In Bangladesh After Stock Market Plunges 6.7%
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')or what may be the best look at the future of the world's most recent Banana republic entrant (the U.S.S. of A. for the confused) has to look forward to, we need to merely shift our attention at another one, which has had the privilege of experimenting with its Banana status for far longer: Bangladesh. After the stock market plunged on Sunday by 552 points or 6.72%, hundreds of angry investors took to the streets, "threw bricks at police, marched in the streets shouting slogans, and staged a sit-down protest." These very same "investors" which have and always will be better known as momo investors, which chase returns only to end up with the live grenades, "chanted slogans against the government and the regulators, and marched through the busy roads in the Motijheel Commercial area, halting traffic. They also staged a sit-in at the SEC building." The reason for the recent mass hysteria in chasing stocks: pretty much the same as what the Fed is trying to do right here in the US: "The rising value of the stocks in recent years has attracted hundreds of thousands of small-scale or retail investors in Bangladesh, says the BBC's Anbarasan Ethirajan in Dhaka. It became a popular investment for ordinary people, often providing higher returns than bank deposits and savings." Well, with the USA today posting an article with the following title on its cover page: "Experts agree: Get over your fear and get back into stocks ", and more incredulously, when one of these so-called experts is none other than David Bianco, the same utterly irresponsible creature who in October 2008 cut his 12 month S&P forecast from 1650 to 1500, well there is nothing much left to say: Bernanke has succeeded in converting America into a third-world subcontinent country.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/riots-erupt-bangladesh-after-stock-market-plunges-67
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