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Unread postby Carlhole » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 22:05:53

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Loose Change Final Cut

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Google Video', 'T')his is the long awaited Loose Change Final Cut DVD. The Final Cut is the last amazing step in the evolution of the Loose Change 9/11 film. ... all » It presents over 2 hours of new, undeniable evidence that will leave you speechless. Order it now to guarantee your copy from the first printing. SHIPPING NOVEMBER 19, 2007.


Ok, let's try this one more time. The last time I posted the movie it was removed shortly afterwards.
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Complete!

Unread postby roccman » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 22:10:06

Time for another round of smack down!!!

Excellent!!!

Backing the truck up as we speak.
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Complete!

Unread postby Carlhole » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 22:20:42

I couldn't find any "advance order" option for LCFC on their store though.

http://lc911.com/lc911/catalog/index.html

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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Complete!

Unread postby Concerned » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 05:57:32

Ok can we just stick to the official script please.

1. The three buildings came down at near free fall speed.
2. They pancaked pretty much into their own footprint considering they were over 100 stories high.
3. Building 7 ummm... work with us here ummm... get back to you shortly
4. The crazy Arabs hate us because of our "freedoms"
5. We can't let them win
6. In order to achieve 5 above we have to remove 4 above

ok all Hail Bush and the official party line.
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Complete!

Unread postby Fishman » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:52:31

I can find this in the comedy section of Netflix, right?
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Complete!

Unread postby Carlhole » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 15:04:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'I') can find this in the comedy section of Netflix, right?


Wrong, again.
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Release Date!

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 22 Oct 2007, 14:25:16

Loose Change Final Cut Release Date Announced

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('911Blogger', 'A')fter many months of anticipation, a release date has finally been announced for Loose Change Final Cut, the pre-eminent 9/11 truth documentary. The film, which features all-new material and interviews, will hit the web on November 11th and be available on DVD shortly after.

The original Loose Change and Loose Change 2nd Edition have been viewed millions of times over the Internet, making it one of the most watched movies in history, but the Final Cut goes above and beyond, making it not simply the third in a trilogy but a completely new film with oodles of unseen footage, commentary, interviews and eyewitness testimony.

The film will first be available online as a digital media download at PrisonPlanet.com, Infowars.com and LooseChange911.com on November 11th, before orders will be taken for the DVD a week later and shipped out on November 26th.

Part of the revenue from the sales will be donated to 9/11 victim's charities such as The Feal Good Foundation and WTC Families for Proper Burial.

The film will not be subject to cinematic release, but many grassroots theatres are expected to pick up the movie from December onwards and the Loose Change team are encouraging activists to ask that their local theatre screen the documentary.

"Many of you have asked us about a mainstream theater release and are aware that we spent considerable time in Hollywood negotiating with different producers," reads the Loose Change press release. "After many weeks of consideration, we decided that a Hollywood release just isn't right for Loose Change. In order to access the normal "big movie" distribution channels, we would have to relinquish editorial control of the film. This just wasn't an option for us, as the integrity of our message is ultimately all that we have, and we feared that "the machine" would corrupt or squash our film and its movement."

"We have decided to challenge the traditional marketing channels and reinvent the way that films are distributed," it adds...

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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Release Date!

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 22 Oct 2007, 19:53:35

Download Audio Clip: Alex Jones interviews Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas about LCFC

(right click and save file)

If you go to about 18:00 into it, you can hear AJ do a pretty funny Thurston Howell III imitation (that's what 911 Commissioner Thomas Keane sounds like to him).

AJ is bubbling over on the film.
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby Carlhole » Sat 10 Nov 2007, 08:24:47

Loose Change Final Cut DVD Pre-Order

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loose Change Online Store', 'T')his is the long awaited Loose Change Final Cut DVD. The Final Cut is the last amazing step in the evolution of the Loose Change 9/11 film. It presents over 2 hours of new, undeniable evidence that will leave you speechless. Order it now to guarantee your copy from the first printing. SHIPPING NOVEMBER 19, 2007.


$19.95 and worth every penny.

The DVD will ship at the end of the month.
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby Lighthouse » Sat 10 Nov 2007, 20:36:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '[')url=http://lc911.com/lc911/catalog/]Loose Change Final Cut DVD Pre-Order [/url]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loose Change Online Store', 'T')his is the long awaited Loose Change Final Cut DVD. The Final Cut is the last amazing step in the evolution of the Loose Change 9/11 film. It presents over 2 hours of new, undeniable evidence that will leave you speechless. Order it now to guarantee your copy from the first printing. SHIPPING NOVEMBER 19, 2007.


$19.95 and worth every penny.

The DVD will ship at the end of the month.


I disagree. I got Arnie's Terminator 1 - 3 final directors cut for $9.98. Better entertainment because of a slightly better written script ... :D
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 01:59:20

Lots of gratuitously nasty comments aimed at people, on this forum, who are simply interested in getting to the truth. The amusing thing is the wise cracks reflect more negatively on the posters who deliver them than their targets. A nation where a good 40 to 50% are sycophants, easily fooled, or just plain intellectually dull, is a nation where just such an event could be planned and implemented by insiders.
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby Lighthouse » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 02:05:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'L')ots of gratuitously nasty comments aimed at people, on this forum, who are simply interested in getting to the truth. The amusing thing is the wise cracks reflect more negatively on the posters who deliver them than their targets. A nation where a good 40 to 50% are sycophants, easily fooled, or just plain intellectually dull, is a nation where just such an event could be planned and implemented by insiders.


The truth?

I don't know the truth and I never will know the truth. I was not there, I could not examne physical evidence and understand only partly the physics involved.

But what everyone in this context usually is doing is confirming his or her believes and not searching for the truth. This goes for so called "truth seeker" as well as conspiracy debunker.

99% (including myself) don't even understand the physics involved neither the mathematics.

Honestly I would not want any of you guys on a jury where I am the accused.

It's all hot air a religious chant confirming ones believes.

Believe me knowing the truth is something else ...
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 02:12:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'L')ots of gratuitously nasty comments aimed at people, on this forum, who are simply interested in getting to the truth. The amusing thing is the wise cracks reflect more negatively on the posters who deliver them than their targets. A nation where a good 40 to 50% are sycophants, easily fooled, or just plain intellectually dull, is a nation where just such an event could be planned and implemented by insiders.


The truth?

I don't know the truth and I never will know the truth. I was not there, I could not examne physical evidence and understand only partly the physics involved.

But what everyone in this context usually is doing is confirming his or her believes and not searching for the truth. This goes for so called "truth seeker" as well as conspiracy debunker.

99% (including myself) don't even understand the physics involved neither the mathematics.

Honestly I would not want any of you guys on a jury where I am the accused.

It's all hot air a religious chant confirming ones believes.

Believe me knowing the truth is something else ...


Really? How is your belief in the inability to ever know the truth any different than the confidence some have in their ability to find it? This has a religious component to it as well.
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby Lighthouse » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 02:29:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'R')eally? How is your belief in the inability to ever know the truth any different than the confidence some have in their ability to find it? This has a religious component to it as well.


Coming to conclusions based on circumstantial evidence is very dangerous and has nothing to to with truth.

We can only looking at the probabilities of each theory on the basics of the parts, which can be tested. Every conclusion afterwards can per definition not be true in its entirely. Every theory can be considered more or less probable. That's all.

But you guys on both sides are insisting you KNOW THE TRUTH. I envy your faith...
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 02:58:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'R')eally? How is your belief in the inability to ever know the truth any different than the confidence some have in their ability to find it? This has a religious component to it as well.


Coming to conclusions based on circumstantial evidence is very dangerous and has nothing to to with truth.

We can only looking at the probabilities of each theory on the basics of the parts, which can be tested. Every conclusion afterwards can per definition not be true in its entirely. Every theory can be considered more or less probable. That's all.

But you guys on both sides are insisting you KNOW THE TRUTH. I envy your faith...


I think those of us who would like to see something resembling an impartial investigation don't claim to KNOW THE TRUTH. We have arrived at the conclusion that the official report is bunk though...true.
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby culicomorpha » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 07:56:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'R')eally? How is your belief in the inability to ever know the truth any different than the confidence some have in their ability to find it? This has a religious component to it as well.


Coming to conclusions based on circumstantial evidence is very dangerous and has nothing to to with truth.

We can only looking at the probabilities of each theory on the basics of the parts, which can be tested. Every conclusion afterwards can per definition not be true in its entirely. Every theory can be considered more or less probable. That's all.

But you guys on both sides are insisting you KNOW THE TRUTH. I envy your faith...


This statement in bold is so loaded with epistemological fallacies that I'm not even going to touch it.

On the whole I think this is a disingenuous response. This is not about "both sides" taking dogmatic views in pursuit of some mythical Truth. And it's not about circumstantial evidence. I think the goal of this film and people in this forum is in pursuing free inquiry for the real 9/11 truth. The difference between faith and free inquiry is that faith will admit no new evidence. Faith is the official story. Faith is the refusal to even discuss building 7. Faith is the refusal to follow the money trail.

Free inquiry, on the other hand, actively seeks out new information in order to encircle the truth and expose contradictions. Free inquiry looks for internal consistency and external coherence of the given explanations. Free inquiry is not about faith or an insistence on "Knowing the Truth." You use the term as if we are talking about an existential question with no real answer when what we are talking about is three destroyed buildings. It is possible to get much closer to the truth than we are now. I think that is what the film is trying to achieve.

Instead, your response seems feigned, like so much smoke, to hide what should be the relatively uncomplicated determination that the official story and some crucial facts are at odds with one another, and that the whole matter requires a real independent investigation. Can we not even agree there? The claim that all the evidence is "circumstantial" is patently false, as evidence has been presented that is direct and unambiguous. The video/audio of the event is most definitely NOT circumstantial, and it tells much.

You also seem to suggest one must be a Professional Structural Engineer to understand what happened because the equations are too complicated for the simple folk to understand? People can't trust their own eyes to tell them what looks like controlled demolitions? Even when the official story consistently ignores building 7? Even when over 200 architects and engineers have come out in favor of a new investigation due to unexplained anomalous and contradictory evidence? Come now.

I have high confidence in my assessment that building 7 was a controlled demolition because it had all the hallmark features of a controlled demolition and I trust my senses. The videos were not doctored. How many of these things have been seen on TV? If you are going to claim building 7 was anything other than a controlled demolition, or that you don't know, because there is only circumstantial evidence, I would consider that intellectual dishonesty at the very least.

Your position is a cop out that I doubt even you believe, and I sure don't. I mean, once you get to 99% sure that one of the buildings was deliberately demolished, aren't we really splitting hairs between 'very high probability' and 'Know'? To me this seems like a semantic distinction whose only intent can be to muddy the waters.

Thanks for the heads-up on the DVD Carl. Can't wait to see it. It is going to make the job of folks like lighthouse so much harder. How can you possibly sell uncertainty when people have the facts!

Sorry Carl... didn't mean to hijack your thread...
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby Lighthouse » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 10:29:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('culicomorpha', '.')... to make the job of folks like lighthouse so much harder. ...


What job would that be?

Btw. you confirm what I said: BELIEVE not TRUTH because you chose to believe whatever you want to believe. You tend to interpret the evidence in a specific way mostly to confirm your believes.

Don't worry, we all tend do ... The trick is to stay open minded. Everything is possible.

That btw. does not make the official version more plausible nor the one you try to get accepted as the true version of the events. I had enough discussions like this with the guys in the local pub who tend to interpret whatever they see in a very simplified way ...
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 16:29:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('culicomorpha', '.')... to make the job of folks like lighthouse so much harder. ...


What job would that be?

Btw. you confirm what I said: BELIEVE not TRUTH because you chose to believe whatever you want to believe. You tend to interpret the evidence in a specific way mostly to confirm your believes.

Don't worry, we all tend do ... The trick is to stay open minded. Everything is possible.

That btw. does not make the official version more plausible nor the one you try to get accepted as the true version of the events. I had enough discussions like this with the guys in the local pub who tend to interpret whatever they see in a very simplified way ...


Lighthouse--You're a bright guy. It's quite evident. Unfortunately, when you come up against Culicomorpha, Carhole, and many others of similar caliber, you are simply outgunned. Your desire to paint all with the same brush here, both "troofers" and official conspiracy buffs, involves mental gymnastics on your part, not true intellectual and analytical discernment (which you're quite capable of, judging by your posts on other threads)
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Re: Loose Change: Final Cut Now Available!

Unread postby Lighthouse » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 19:43:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'L')ighthouse--You're a bright guy. It's quite evident. Unfortunately, when you come up against Culicomorpha, Carhole, and many others of similar caliber, you are simply outgunned. Your desire to paint all with the same brush here, both "troofers" and official conspiracy buffs, involves mental gymnastics on your part, not true intellectual and analytical discernment (which you're quite capable of, judging by your posts on other threads)


Come on. This thraed tells us one thing: A new Video is for sale.

Actually it is just a new version of an old video ....

It's pure and simple advertising without any information in it:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '[')url=http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=17165&st=]Loose Change: Final Cut Complete, Official Announcement[/url]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LC Forums', 'D')ear Supporter,

Thank you so much for your past support of Loose Change. We are happy to announce that Loose Change Final Cut will be done today. That's right, DONE TODAY! Later this week we'll be sending more info on the release schedule, so stay tuned.

To celebrate the occasion, we're offering 10% off any order over $15 placed through the Loose Change Store before Friday, October 19th. Your continued support helps us make the film happen and aids in the press for an independent investigation!

Cheers,
The LC Team


Man, they have put a lotta love into this sucker. I can't wait to see it.


I watched it a while ago but could not take it serious because it is full of statements like that:

December 1st, 1984. A remote-controlled Boeing 720 takes off from Edwards Air Force Base, and is crash-landed by NASA for fuel research. Before its destruction, the plane flew a total of 16 hours and 22 minutes, including 10 takeoffs, 69 approaches, and 13 landings.

10 takeoffs and 13 landings - yeah right.

I might be outnumbered, but not outgunned. Even my totally drunk buddies in the pub have better arguments ...

I love that one, it says it all:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('culicomorpha', '.').. You also seem to suggest one must be a Professional Structural Engineer to understand what happened because the equations are too complicated for the simple folk to understand? People can't trust their own eyes to tell them what looks like controlled demolitions? ...


... I have high confidence in my assessment that building 7 was a controlled demolition because it had all the hallmark features of a controlled demolition and I trust my senses. The videos were not doctored. How many of these things have been seen on TV?...


Is this guy serious?

Ok I admit "Loose Change" is the bestest video ever made. I am so grateful that the final edition is now available for 19.95. Watching it will open all our eyes and enlighten us with the truth.

And it beats even my Arnie collection ...

Happy now?

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Re: Watch Loose Change Final Cut Online Now!

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 13 Nov 2007, 14:23:33

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