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World Turning Into Wasteland

Postby Cyrus » Tue 25 Jan 2005, 19:31:51

I may be paranoid, but am i the only one who is noticing an increased amount of dead or dying plants/trees? Also freak weather "rain then snow ran then snow, flood then drought flood then drought"

Also i have noticed a decline the the quality of consumer products due to our shortage of resources.

Am I crazy or is this the beginning of the end?
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Postby Ludi » Tue 25 Jan 2005, 19:40:50

I'm not seeing those things here (Central Texas). We have a tree disease, oak wilt, but the other trees in the area are doing well and there seems to be plenty of animals around. Things are looking ok here.

And it's always been hot/cold/hot/drought/flood/drought here, so no real difference.
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Postby Cyrus » Tue 25 Jan 2005, 20:29:12

Do a quick google search on dying trees/desertification. This is a frowing and spreading problem most everywhere.
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Postby Jack » Tue 25 Jan 2005, 21:26:31

Perspective is an interesting thing. I, too, reside in central Texas - and my perception is that things are quite different. This winter, for example - we were in the low 30's yesterday. Today, it's 73 degrees, at 7:28PM! That's volatile!

It's hard to say if it's the "beginning of the end"; but I do believe the weather is becoming more volatile. Perhaps due to global warming...
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Postby satjeet » Tue 25 Jan 2005, 22:33:28

In the last 3 years the area I live in in Cherry Hill, NJ has detoriated at increasing speeds. Sewage, traffic, abandoned cars, loss of habitat - every where you look.
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Postby marek » Tue 25 Jan 2005, 23:25:28

New Jersey is a real wasteland. As far as I can remember, it has the highest number of Superfund sites in the country (EPA).
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Postby Coolman » Wed 26 Jan 2005, 01:56:40

Shannymara said:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'e') also noticed a decline in the quality of just about everything involving humans, which fits in nicely with the fact that there's less energy per capita now than there was awhile back (Didn't that peak in the USA in the 80s sometime? Can't recall off the top of my head...).


Energy per capita peaked in 1979.

Here in Phoenix Arizona it can be pretty depressing with all the cars, polution and ugly dirty street corners. It funny how people think they have it all in the USA when really they having nothing because they are missing their soul because they forgot what was really important in life, people and nature.
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Postby BabyPeanut » Wed 26 Jan 2005, 08:59:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Coolman', 'E')nergy per capita peaked in 1979.

per capita CO2 emissions peaked in 1979
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Postby Cyrus » Wed 26 Jan 2005, 20:00:09

Man, this is the FIRST forum where someone was observant enough to notice the changes taking place! I really appreciate your responses and I see I am not alone with my concern.
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Postby EnviroEngr » Wed 26 Jan 2005, 21:09:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '.')..
It's hard to say if it's the "beginning of the end"; but I do believe the weather is becoming more volatile. Perhaps due to global warming...


Maybe pup55 or Monte can help out here. When X teraWatts 'build up' in a dynamic (partially closed?) System [of systems] the size of the Earth, by what degree does the entropy or turbulence increase? I've been meaning to layout a series of TDynamic ='s in MathCad to see how wild normally stable outputs get when kinetic energies increase in a simple-model elastic system by some amount X. Do either of you have a guess?
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Postby EnviroEngr » Fri 28 Jan 2005, 19:02:42

Come on... you can at least take a stab at it.
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Postby Cyrus » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 19:26:32

10 more pinetrees cut down on my property....I think we may have a dead spring.
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Postby Specop_007 » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 20:23:15

Using the weather as any signal of "troubles" is, at best, shaky. We simply havent kept and accurate recorded history of the weather long enough to know if this global change is a warning sign or simply Mother Earth doin her groove thang.
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Postby BabyPeanut » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 20:41:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SOSaD', '1')0 more pinetrees cut down on my property....I think we may have a dead spring.

Without knowing where you are your reports have little bearing.
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Postby Cyrus » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 21:03:25

I am located in Joliet Illinois.
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Postby Itch » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 21:06:50

Well, to be fair, it is winter. Around here, things tend to look pretty shitty at this time. Still, it isn't that surprising if everything is getting worse. I personally think it is.
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Postby Terran » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 21:18:29

Well over here in the Bay Area, it seems like the last few days had been fairly warm for winter.
Over here the abandoned navel base is heavly polluted. I can't believe the Navy left all that mess behind. The San Fransico Bay is in pretty bad shape, the mercury levels are so high, that people are advised to consume no more than 1 fish caught in the bay over one month. Other than that theres alot of agricultural runoff from the valley feeding into the bay. And the water is murky green, where you can't see beyone 2 feet of water.

Air quality isn't that bad, unless we have a heat wave, or a abnormally hot summer day, which is rare.
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Postby Cyrus » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 21:23:46

The degredation of the environment is happening so fast we dont notice. All of the forest preserves around me contain more fallen, chopped down trees then normal ones. None are really healthy, just surviving.
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