[benrk]

Hi there!

Within the last 2 or 3 years I have made a little bit of homework on PO & LOTS of thinking, maybe philosophying or so.

When I take a look @ most of the posts here in this forum I feel like there is still this "Oh my god, what is happening here" mentality dominating.

Absolutely, there are parts of our race for which the implecations of PO will be desastrous.
Not all are gona survive even in the western world & the "die-off" is one of the more plausible implications, where no one can define where or how it's gona have the most impact, the possibilities are near endless.

I'm focusing more on my personal situation (besides of course the philosophical idea of how the world actually works).

Doesn'tanybody feel like it might be a blessing to live his live more local, with family, friends & neighbours instead of an office desk & a computer screen, hours of commute away from home?
Doesn't anybody like the idea of the "necessities" of a consuming oriented economy disappearing, not needing to worry about the latest gimmicks of whatever you like but don't need anyways?

I'm 31years now & economicaly I"m far from a good starting position into a post PO world.
I'm still driving truck, a job that won't be in need very much maybe next year. I do not own a house. But I'm debt-free.
I relocated from Germany to the canadian prairies last year, still driving truck in a supposed driver shortage is my entry ticket.

Traveling all over the place is an interesting thing, in Europe as in North America, but I haven't had a girlfriend in years.
I have always liked to see something grow, but my flowers so far are rather surviving than flowering since none of my roommates care about them.

I will see that I get my electrician licence in MB next year & educate myself towards energy electrics/electronics.

I actually am looking foward to a life with a local job & some time for the neighbourhood & possibly a family, dog & garden.


I do understand that a lot of people are frightened about PO & can hardly imagine an urban environment in the absence of fossil fuels.
Let me remind you, especially in SUV & A/C country: Your ancestors that conquered the continent only had ox & horse to haul prairiewagons & I think they got pretty far.
Rome & ancient Greece had cities of quite considerable sizes without any fossil fuels more than 2000years ago.

I see great opportunity for the human race to grow intellectually, dealing wth PO.
I see great opportunity for myself to live a more fullfilled life in a post PO world (of course if I stay out of riots & wars).

Why do all the these people on this board, who are extremely well informed & wide awake on the issue still sound so frightened & hopeless?

Am I the only one still having faith in the human ability to adapt?

Am I the only one that can envision his life with a lot less energy?

Am I the only one that can see himself being happy without consuming as much as unsustainebly possible?

(fixed the title- TheTurtle)

[jedinvest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') see great opportunity for the human race to grow intellectually, dealing wth PO.

[FoolYap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('benrk', 'W')hen I take a look @ most of the posts here in this forum I feel like there is still this "Oh my god, what is happening here" mentality dominating.

Absolutely, there are parts of our race for which the implecations of PO will be desastrous.
Not all are gona survive even in the western world & the "die-off" is one of the more plausible implications, where no one can define where or how it's gona have the most impact, the possibilities are near endless.

I'm focusing more on my personal situation (besides of course the philosophical idea of how the world actually works).

Doesn't anybody feel like it might be a blessing to live his live more local, with family, friends & neighbours instead of an office desk & a computer screen, hours of commute away from home?

[jedinvest]

I have to raise my children and give them hope. Yes, the future looks dismal to tell you the truth. But I will never deny that there is hope for the individual. Many of us are pass our primes and are not going too far no matter what happens.

Recently, I've met two people named 'Noah', one is the very young son of a forest-ecologist (we were in polite company and I didn't dare start a doomer conversation to ask him why he named his son Noah). The other was a very rugged outdoorsy guy (who happened to be a real-estate agent -- whose knows, maybe he is looking for a quick way to build a nestegg before the TSHTF).

Then, who knows, maybe this H5N1 virus will be the real thing and decimate the human race. We can hope so.

[like_the_dinosaurs]

The human race will survive po, global warming and most other problems that come our way. Unfortunately modern technology won't.

I was reading an article the other day about how this is a one shot deal to get off this planet. Now, i'm not sure if i agree with that but in any case it's a disgrace to think that we have blown our one shot.

Thats what gets me down.

[savethehumans]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')oesn't anybody feel like it might be a blessing to live his live more local, with family, friends & neighbours instead of an office desk & a computer screen, hours of commute away from home?
Doesn't anybody like the idea of the "necessities" of a consuming oriented economy disappearing, not needing to worry about the latest gimmicks of whatever you like but don't need anyways?

[ohanian]

Your speelings are desasterous!

[Cornelian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ohanian', '[')size=200]Your speelings are desasterous![/size]

[jbeckton]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('benrk', '
')Doesn'tanybody feel like it might be a blessing to live his live more local, with family, friends & neighbours instead of an office desk & a computer screen, hours of commute away from home?
Doesn't anybody like the idea of the "necessities" of a consuming oriented economy disappearing, not needing to worry about the latest gimmicks of whatever you like but don't need anyways?