by Morpheus » Sat 22 Sep 2007, 19:27:14
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('entropyfails', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'M')y point is that all action is karma, produces future cause and effect just as the thought that a butterflies wings flapping could cause a hurricane at some future date et etc.
You cannot separate cause and effect in this universe. They seem to be one thing, separated only by the inseparable Planck time. So positing karma, which is a cause separated from effect, must be wrong on some fundamental level.
Now it may be convenient to separate cause and effect for some purposes. This is what thought and science does. But for all this talk here of symbols many here fail to see that they use karma only as a convenient abstraction of reality... and a poor one.
People
invent karma to make them feel better about their own actions. It is a nice feeling to say, "While I didn't do enough today, I at least did something and that good karma will help." We use it as a mental crutch.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'T')he thought is that everything we do impacts something/someone somewhere.
Its a permaculture kinda thing. Think people think!
Consider as much as you can before you take action.
If you are talking about the butterfly effect, then you are talking about chaotic outcomes. If you are talking about chaotic outcomes then no matter how much you think about it... the outcome will be random.
You have no real interest in any supposed "karma". If the butterfly effect is karma, then all you have done is proven that your thoughts and intentions do not matter!
What we all really need is the fear that ANY choice born of thought will be wrong. Only then will we see an authentic human response. If that happened the world would change overnight.