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Re: $8,333.33 a second

Unread postby roccman » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 18:38:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'A')ctually, your numbers lie, Offshore, Iraq is producing around 2M barrels per day, FOUR TIMES your assertion

While it's true Iraq is producing 2 million barrels of oil per day as I have posted a million times on this website, the United States only receives 500,000 of those. Borrow a clue.

As I've said a million times, anyone who thinks we went to Iraq for 2 million barrels per day of oil production has no clue what is going on. America would need at least 10 Iraqs to meet it's current oil needs.


You may want to look up what a fungible resource is.

Too bad common sense isn't fungible because you could really use some.


Ask your neo con "catchy orwellian doublespeak" suppliers to send you another batch of comebacks...

It is appears you are running very low.

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Re: $8,333.33 a second

Unread postby AlCzervik » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 20:38:10

Just so OilyMaster can get the fucking point on this issue. From a guy who has been in the trenches.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t was, is, and will continue to be an Energy War. Energy is the material substrate of power; this is as inescapable – literally – as entropy. The plan was to erect a new network of bases in Southwest Asia in the wake of their expulsion from ever more fragile Saudi Arabia, and to use the GWOT as a pretext to develop a new body of law to attack domestic political enemies. The US military’s Cold War disposition was to be decisively abandoned; and the area around the oil-soaked Persian Gulf subjugated within a network of bases… lily pads, they called them.

Encroachment: Part I.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')eople who study politics need to study maps.

The centrality of Iraq to the US is oil. You can dance around this plain fact until Hell freezes over, but if Iraq were not located in the middle of the world’s largest oil patch ( Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Kuwait) there would not be 140,000 US troops, 25,000 US mercenaries, and tens of thousands of US war profiteers there today.

The war in Iraq (and in Afghanistan, as well) is an energy war, first and last.

The Danger of Iraqi Partition.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ontrol over the largest patch of oil, on the other hand, is leverage against all competitors who rely on imported oil. That was always Europe and Japan. And since the 1980s, it is increasingly China.

Military power is the only card the US has to play in this new Great Game. Forgive the paternalistic analogy that emphasizes the imperial standpoint, but as any parent knows, when we must resort to force with our children, it is an indication that all other measures have failed.

They are not expanding their power. They are trying to manage their decline. The violence of that management is a reflection of the depth of the crisis, and the question of how to manage that decline goes to the heart of the struggle developing between the neocons and the technocrats.

The leverage that petroleum gives over the rest of the over-developed world, as well as nuclear Russia and industrializing China is absolutely and inescapably logical from a strictly mechanistic, military point of view. This is the reason that Southwest Asia is now the epicenter of world crisis.

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Re: $8,333.33 a second

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 20:54:12

Thanks Al but not very convincing.

When the United States invades Saudi Arabia and annexes their oil fields I'll concede your point.
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Re: $8,333.33 a second

Unread postby Baldwin » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 22:16:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', 'T')hanks Al but not very convincing.

When the United States invades Saudi Arabia and annexes their oil fields I'll concede your point.


As long as Saudi Arabia, or any country for that matter, cooperates with lock-step efficiency, invasion is needless.

Measuring an Iraqi peak is near impossible. The infrastructure is hardly working to its full potential and graphs from the past are near-useless.
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Re: $8,333.33 a second

Unread postby Olaf » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 23:12:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat say you or are you just throwing that question out there because it seems unfounded.


Just wondering if there was info I wasn't up to date on and what your basis was. From what I've see nso far, I couldn't make that assessment, but I've only been checking back here again for a short while after a long lay-off.

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Re: $8,333.33 a second

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Thu 27 Sep 2007, 00:21:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', 'T')hanks Al but not very convincing.

When the United States invades Saudi Arabia and annexes their oil fields I'll concede your point.


As long as Saudi Arabia, or any country for that matter, cooperates with lock-step efficiency, invasion is needless.

More Iraqi oil was ending up in the United States under Saddam Hussein and the so-called "sanctions" than is today after the invasion.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', 'g')raphs from the past are near-useless.

LOL. I can see Big Brother now: "Data is useless."
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Re: $8,333.33 a second

Unread postby jupiters_release » Thu 27 Sep 2007, 00:49:50

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More like Liberating Oil from Iraqi Children is Costing too much.

Why would Congress vote to spend $8000 per second for 500,000 barrels of oil per day?


Because if Congress is spending $8,000 per second from the pockets of American taxpayers and adding inflationary national debt, then they can help continue concentrating the wealth where it belongs in private hands. The oil and destruction (or reconstruction whatever you wanna call it) of Iraq are just ancillary gains.

I'll hope Roccman is right about your professional trolling, otherwise you'd really have to be stupid to believe what you type.
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Re: $8,333.33 a second

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Thu 27 Sep 2007, 03:31:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '
')Why would Congress vote to spend $8000 per second for 500,000 barrels of oil per day?


Because if Congress is spending $8,000 per second from the pockets of American taxpayers and adding inflationary national debt, then they can help continue concentrating the wealth where it belongs in private hands.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Inflation and debt are the opposite of wealth concentration.
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