[Fishman]

Hillary will win the Democratic Primary, well organized, lots of money, and the libs thinking she's so much better than Bush (but of course she's not running against Bush) She enters the election (already) with the highest "no way in hell I'd vote for her" sentiment ever (most recently 47%). Wonder what the outcome will be?

[TommyJefferson]

Hillary's top contributors will benefit greatly when they don't have to eat all the bad loans they made...

HILLARY CLINTON: CAREER PROFILE (SINCE 2000)
Top Contributors
1 Citigroup Inc
2 Goldman Sachs
3 Time Warner
4 JP Morgan Chase & Co
5 Metropolitan Life
6 Credit Suisse Group
7 Skadden, Arps et al
8 Corning Inc
9 Morgan Stanley
10 Cablevision Systems
11 Viacom Inc
12 International Profit Assoc
13 Ernst & Young
14 Kirkland & Ellis
15 Kushner Companies
16 New York Life Insurance
17 Walt Disney Co
18 Patton Boggs
19 Sullivan & Cromwell
20 News Corp

Fascist socialism at it's best!

Citigroup and J.P. Morgan appreciate being able to shove their beaks in your wallet via the IRS.

Be a good goose and don't complain too much as you are plucked.

[Alcassin]

Looks like a big industry list including Porsche, Krupp and Thyssen during Hitler campaign in 1933 to prevent Germany from communism. Capitalism degrades to fascism soooner or later.

TommyJefferson could you show the list of contributors for Giuliani I am only curious

[TommyJefferson]

Here's Guiliani by sector:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/secto ... cycle=2008

His biggest contributors are Finance, Insurance & Real Estate.

Keep in mind that these sector totals can be misleading. Giuliani is such a war-monger because his contributors want the U.S. to invade Iran for the benefit of Israel.

[Zardoz]

Ah, the choices we have. Is it any wonder a comparative rookie like Obama is generating so much support?

[threadbear]

Ahhhh Hillary, Gotta love her.

[coyote]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', 'S')till, it's going to be weird in 2016 looking back on three decades of Bushes and Clintons

[azreal60]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat bitch is probably worse than George W. At least George had some experienced staff at the beginning of his term

[TheDude]

I've heard Edwards is way out in front in Iowa. There are all these stories about Rove focusing on Hillary/Obama to make sure Edwards loses: Trippi: Rove Ignores Edwards Because He Fears Him. My Chertoff-esque Gut Feeling is that a woman or a black man simply aren't electable to the Presidency. This topic is a bit of a straw poll.

My other Gut Feeling is that Cheney isn't going anywhere.

[TommyJefferson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', 'O')ne word for ya.

Obama.

[Alcassin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', '
')Both Hillary and Obama would strangle an infant in it's crib if ordered to do so by their paymasters.

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bshirt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gideon', '
')God help us.....if she wins we'll have 24 consectutive years of Bush/Clinton.

[Plantagenet]

Hillary wants a law to force taxpayers to give 1 billion to the banks and mortgate companies.

Thats a pretty good rate of return on the millions in campaign donations the banks and mortgate companies have been giving her.

[TommyJefferson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alcassin', 'A')re you going to vote?
Giuliani vs. Hillary is like neocon vs. neocon.

[bshirt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alcassin', 'A')re you going to vote?
Giuliani vs. Hillary is like neocon vs. neocon.

[Alcassin]

Reps cut social spending and build military budget.
Dems rise social spending and keep military budget.
Both help rich - Reps by cutting taxes and susidizing their business. Dems by subsidizing their business.

It's all the same. Difference is minimal.

Remember, 41 cents of every dollar in your taxes go to military-industrtial complex.

[holmes]

Hillarry has a great chance of becoming "presidente" of this toilet bowl. not much else to say about the american humans.

[SILENTTODD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alcassin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'B')oth Hillary and Obama would strangle an infant in it's crib if ordered to do so by their paymasters.

[coyote]

Looks like it's going to happen, but Hillary won't get to it first:
Bush outlines plans to help homeowners
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ASHINGTON - President Bush on Friday announced a set of modest proposals to deal with an alarming rise in mortgage defaults that have contributed to turbulent financial markets over recent weeks.
Housing analysts said it was highly likely the limited steps Bush outlined will be expanded in coming weeks by a Democrat-controlled Congress intent on responding to growing voter anxiety as up to 2 million homeowners worry about losing their homes.

[Denny]

I recall a similar financial f-up back in the 1990's with many of the savings and loans association mortgages being a problem.
Somehow, the government did something to overcome the problem, didn't they? Would it not work this time?

I see the issue about being fair. But, today I heard that many of these failed "balloon" mortgages were made to people who did not speak English and were not even able to comprehend the terms they were agreeing to. In fact, some of the banks are now being sued by those they are attempting to forclose. Surely, the loan industry regulations require assurance that a person has full comprehension of the terms they are being asked to sign agreement to.
One issue many are overlooking is that the current statre of the housing market is hurting the softwood lumber industry.