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My peak oil retreat :)

Unread postby Emma » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 07:23:46

Finally completed, I am moving there soon. 2 houses, garden, well, underground shelter/storage, friendly community, quite remote. Just need to save a bit more for solar panel and wind turbine.
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Unread postby Madpaddy » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 09:41:58

Where is that Emma,

Looks like continental Europe somewhere, maybe Czech Republic or Hungary.
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Unread postby Emma » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 09:51:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'W')here is that Emma, Looks like continental Europe somewhere, maybe Czech Republic or Hungary.

darn you're good. Further east, the Ukraine. How did you know? The roofs?
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Unread postby Madpaddy » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 10:05:38

Yes, The architecture. Deep sloped roofs for snow as in most of Eastern Europe but not much timber in evidence as you might see in Austria or Germany. Good luck with the retreat. Ukraine is not a bid choice IMO. Are you Ukrainian?
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Unread postby Emma » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 10:19:27

Yes I am part ukrainian, going back to my roots :)

I like the place. Fertile soil, plenty of food and water, low population and rather cheap costs of living (but not for the internet grr)
Thinking about investing in a greenhouse for the garden but not sure if it's worth the costs and energy.
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Unread postby Madpaddy » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 10:25:06

I have a greenhouse and find it to be not much benefit. It is quite small and only fits about 10 tomato plants which then have to be watered. If you go away for a day or 2 the plants will die unless you set up a timed water sprinkler.

This year my tomato plants got blight and I lost at least half the harvest. I had 1 very productive corgette plant in there as well but my outdoor corgettes have done almost as well.

I suggest you get a cloche which is a galvanised frame covered with transparent polythene - much cheaper than a greenhouse.

Of course for some plants ie. peppers etc. in my climate, a greenhouse is essential.
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Unread postby Lore » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 10:25:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Emma', 'Y')es I am part ukrainian, going back to my roots. I like the place. Fertile soil, plenty of food and water, population and rather cheap costs of living (but not for the internet grr) Thinking about investing in a greenhouse for the garden but not sure if it's worth the costs and energy.
Just curious Emma, none of my business, but what's a place like that cost to build in your area, (Euros)?
For one thing, brick pavers, is a rather expensive treatment here in the US.
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Unread postby Madpaddy » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 10:32:00

Good point Lore,

That paving would cost about €8,000 here in Ireland.
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Unread postby Emma » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 10:58:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Emma', 'Y')es I am part ukrainian, going back to my roots :) I like the place. Fertile soil, plenty of food and water, low population and rather cheap costs of living (but not for the internet grr) Thinking about investing in a greenhouse for the garden but not sure if it's worth the costs and energy.
Just curious Emma, none of my business, but what's a place like that cost to build in your area, (Euros)? For one thing, brick pavers, is a rather expensive treatment here in the US.

When the Ukraine opened to the west with the break up of the soviet union, land and houses were dirt cheap. My aunt (she lives in the house next door on the picture) pushed me hard to invest and i am glad we did. Property and land costs about 3 times what we paid for and rising fast. It cost about 40,000 pounds (roughly $80k) for the land and to construct everything you see on the pictures. And we got a free parcel in the village from the generous mayor :)
Americans spending spree in the Ukraine have boosted the prices by 200-300%. But yeah, eastern europe is still a good place. I think the best deals are found in Albania. A lot of chinese are building over there, everything is so cheap over there.
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Unread postby Lore » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 12:36:45

Emma: I would say, just by looking at the buildings and property, here in the US two solid brick structures, paving, fence, tile roof, etc such as you have would easily cost 4 - 5 times as much. Congratulations on a really nice home and surroundings.
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Unread postby jboogy » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 13:37:02

Very nice Emma , I 'specially like that solid lookin' wall around the property.Ukraine is probably good choice , I believe they have pretty substantial oil and gas reserves and they've already had some economic upheaval recently so they'll probably be good to go for a while.Brick with iron bars ? I'd be feelin' pretty secure in that . Golem that is an awesome garden. Are those them stargazer lillies?
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Unread postby cantom » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 15:45:45

Very cool Emma! I like it a lot, especially the brick wall around the property and the underground storage.
Seems to be missing the veggie garden though...

I'd consider hiding the entrance to the underground shelter...and maybe having a tunnel to it from the bsmt of the house.
Very cool.
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Unread postby Emma » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 16:58:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', 'O')n the retreat, looks great emma. Question, you mentioned needing a hunter gatherer? I couldn't possibly be that person, but I am curious, is the game and gatherable food in that area plentiful enough to need that? I mean, in my area it is, but wisconsin is unsually filled with wildlife and such. I wasn't sure if the Ukraine was equally plentiful that hunting could really be a large part of your diet.

Well heavy farmland. berries and woods in the area. I doubt that there is heavy wildlife but who woulnd't want a good spear handler for a husband :)
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Unread postby lateStarter » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 18:04:05

I would have never guessed from your 'other' posts, but as soon as I saw those pics, I knew we were neighbors. Good choice!
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Unread postby Blacksmith » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 19:00:45

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Re: My peak oil retreat :)

Unread postby Blacksmith » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 19:44:45

For the uninformed 6 feet long by 6 feet deep by 66 inches wide is the dimentions of a grave.
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Unread postby Bas » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 20:10:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Blacksmith', 'F')or the uninformed 6 feet long by 6 feet deep by 66 inches wide is the dimentions of a grave.


and, uhm, that relates to exactly what in this thread? oh I get it, it's a spoof on the title.

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Unread postby Blacksmith » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 20:50:56

Appuis ait fabrum esse suae quemque fortunae translates into the venacular: Everyman is a smith who forges his own happiness.
or to be politically correct Everyone is a smith who forges their own happiness.
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Re: My peak oil retreat :)

Unread postby Chuckmak » Fri 24 Aug 2007, 12:41:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Emma', 'Y')es I am part ukrainian, going back to my roots

yay! me too
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Unread postby Madpaddy » Fri 24 Aug 2007, 18:16:51

Aaron wrote,$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'm')eans "Hi you seem nice. I'd like to wear your ass as a hat."

You crack me up sometimes.
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