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Humans and Clothing

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 19:56:54

This subject has been brought up so I thought it might be interesting to discus it. Humans have been around for millions of years. At some point we lost our fur. Did we lose our fur because we started wearing animal fur or was it the other way around? It seems like a chicken and egg sort of question to me. My guess is that we needed more so we wore it from the animals we killed and gradually, through natural selection, hair became a mating thing only. Women lost most of theirs and men kept strategically placed hair on their faces to remind of the past. Just theories, of course. Sort of like the Old Testament story of Eve seduced by the snake. And btw, if there was ever a subliminal story, that one is it.
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Re: Humans and Clothing

Unread postby dukey » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 20:03:02

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Re: Humans and Clothing

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 20:14:54

look, dukey, I'm looking for some reasoned debate here. 8)

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Re: Humans and Clothing

Unread postby emailking » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 20:59:02

Animals are too dumb to make or wear clothes. Humans were intelligent enough to do this. Since it takes badly needed protein to make hair, humans with less hair have a competitive advantage. Since we hunted long before we figured out farming, getting the fur was no problem. It came with the meat.

Consequently, humans with less hair had a better chance of surviving long enough to reproduce. Hence there is pressure against humans with more hair to die out.

I think it goes something like that.
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Re: Humans and Clothing

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 21:12:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emailking', ' ')it takes badly needed protein to make hair, humans with less hair have a competitive advantage.
Is that it? I'm inclined to think that it is reasonable. I'm always ready to be educated.

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Re: Humans and Clothing

Unread postby lawnchair » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 22:06:52

Lice.

Furless animals had far fewer problems with lice-borne disease.

However, they froze to death.

Once we had enough fur and fire to not freeze to death, the evolutionary advantage went to furlessness.

Underarm and crotch hair is theorized to have pheremonal benefits. Long scalp hair... dunno.
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Re: Humans and Clothing

Unread postby emailking » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 22:24:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emailking', ' ')it takes badly needed protein to make hair, humans with less hair have a competitive advantage.
Is that it? I'm inclined to think that it is reasonable. I'm always ready to be educated.

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Well I don't know for sure and I don't know that anyone does, but that's just my guess. Could be a lot of reasons working together too.
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Re: Humans and Clothing

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 22:45:36

There's a funny story behind this. Raquel Tejada came from San Diego. I had a teacher in 9th grade who said that Raquel had breast enhancements. This was a teacher who knew her. I kind of liked that teacher, but I had a bigger hard-on for Raquel Welsh.
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Re: Humans and Clothing

Unread postby Ayame » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 02:10:57

I always went with the body cooling hypothesis but now there is also the parasite hypothesis I see. BTW Raquel Welsh's legs would be covered with hair and her armpits would too if she truly had been a hunter gatherer *keeping it real*

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