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Unread postby SinisterBlueCat » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 22:26:19

why does this video

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0dd_1187202294

and this news story

http://www.madison.com/tct/news//index.php?ntid=206133


make me feel woozy and kind of sick to my stomach?
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Re: state rights?

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 22:40:47

So you oppose State's rights (The Tenth Amendment, Bill of Rights, and United States Constitution) because the federal government has greater demand for ammunition during wartime?
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Unread postby SinisterBlueCat » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 22:42:46

nope
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Unread postby OilIsMastery » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 22:44:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', 'n')ope

Then I'm confused about the question in the thread title.
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Unread postby SinisterBlueCat » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 22:49:25

what i am saying is...if my state is struggling just to get ammunition to function daily...all the while 'puff the magic dragon' is following mr. bush around just because and just in case...

i do not see how there is a lot of hope for 'states rights' ...especially my state.
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Unread postby OilIsMastery » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 23:14:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', ''')puff the magic dragon' is following mr. bush around just because and just in case...

I don't know anything about Puff the Magic Dragon so I can't comment on that. You'll have to consult Zenu on that one but make sure you wear your tinfoil hat to block out the gamma rays.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i') do not see how there is a lot of hope for 'states rights' ...especially my state.

If you really believe in State's rights, and I must confess I have my doubts about that, then people like you and me and other Americans are the only hope left for the Tenth Amendment, Bill of Rights, and United States Constitution. You should know that the federal government is opposed to the Tenth Amendment, Bill of Rights, and United States Constitution.

Look no further than the Ashcroft/Gonzales Vs. Raich case in which so-called "Justices" Breyer, Ginsburg, and Scalia joined hands to sacrifice liberty on the altar of Socialism.
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Unread postby SinisterBlueCat » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 23:20:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', ''')puff the magic dragon' is following mr. bush around just because and just in case...

I don't know anything about Puff the Magic Dragon so I can't comment on that. You'll have to consult Zenu on that one but make sure you wear your tinfoil hat to block out the gamma rays.



oim...did you watch the video i posted...or are you yet another one that that comments without referring?
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Unread postby OilIsMastery » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 23:33:25

Oh you mean the gun haha. My bad. Again, what does that have to do with State's rights?
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Unread postby OilIsMastery » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 23:40:50

Surely the Secret Service has nothing to do with the supply demand equation for ammunition in Wisconsin. The demand is for ammunition in Iraq. But it sounds more like incompetence in Wisconsin causing the supply shortage if you ask me.
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Unread postby seldom_seen » Sat 18 Aug 2007, 23:41:52

In Seattle we have our own little mini-baghdad DMZ right in the central retail/tourist zone. Shootings, stabbings, muggings, gang-bangers, junkies, dealers. All in broad daylight during bankers hours.

A cop will bust a yuppie for jaywalking, while behind him a mob of homies will be pounding someone in to the pavement.

It's not an ammo issue, but it is surreal. It's like a slow motion Katrina minus the hurricane and floods. The city and state have become so hyper-sensitized, emasculated and invertebrate you could give them all the ammunition in the world and they would be scared to open the boxes.

This is why I usually pick "Mad Max" on the polls about the future, because I see it unfolding in front of my eyes.

In the event of some major problem where the token police forces of Seattle are occupied or incapacitated. I predict most of downtown Seattle will be looted and burned down within 12-24 hours.
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Unread postby jboogy » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 00:03:08

I just saw you. By the way ,did you ever get to nail adrienne barbeau?
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Unread postby Cloud9 » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 08:06:50

States rights came to an end at Appomattox.
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Unread postby TheTurtle » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 08:28:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'S')tates rights came to an end at Appomattox.

I was just about to post the same thing. :cry:
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Unread postby perdition79 » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 04:38:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'S')tates rights came to an end at Appomattox.


That's the most insightful thing I've read in weeks. The wrong side won that fight, for sure.
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Re: state rights?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 16:22:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'S')tates rights came to an end at Appomattox.



The confederacy was defeated at Appomattox.

That isn't the same thing as the rights reserved to states under the U.S. constitution. 8)
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Unread postby TheTurtle » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 16:43:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')hat isn't the same thing as the rights reserved to states under the U.S. constitution. 8)


Correct. But it proved conclusively that, no matter what the Constitution might say, states in reality only have the "rights" that the federal government is willing to let them have.
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 17:16:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', ' ')it proved conclusively that, no matter what the Constitution might say, states in reality only have the "rights" that the federal government is willing to let them have.


No it didn't. The status of "State's rights" are defined by the U.S. Constitution, as interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court.

There are constantly legal arguments over the extent of federal authority and state's rights. The limits are decided by the Supreme Court. The interpretation of State's rights changes with the politics of the Court. For instance, the current Supreme court is somewhat friendlier to state's rights then some prior courts. 8)
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