[Pretorian]

One would think that the mentality of white Americans shouldnt be much more different than one of theirs European ancestors, however it is definitly a false suggestion, in my opinion. I will list in this thread ( and will add-on later on ) some situations I am failing to understand, so please feel free to add something, comment, explain, ets.

-- A guy has 2 rural properties, one 9 and one 5 acres, both with houses and some half-empty sheds/barns/garages/ets . His daughter moves somewhere from somewhere, he helpes out with the move and rent a storage for her 10 boxes and a baby piano and a few chairs. $40-50 a month is the rent, and he pays it for over 6 years by now. Piano and chairs went somewhere over a year ago, so there are 10 boxes left, he agreed long, long time ago that its not a good idea to pay for that but he keeps paying, and paying, and paying. He is not rich at all.

--82 yo woman, with cancer in remission, who never leaves the house on her own/ browse internet keeps her credit card , ask her daughter to help her with that to make ocassional purchases, pay its bill ontime ets. Another creditscore nut?

-- husband and wife, both in fifties, eat out 2-3 times a month, cook out 1-2 times a months, had never tasted lamb. Not that they dont want it for any reason, just never bought it/order it. Just didnt happen.

-- same couple goes to Mexican, Dominican and other Caribean resorts, and never leaves the resort itself. airport-resort-airport. And its not that they are despise/dislike/afraid of Mexicans/caribeans, no. Just doesnt happen. No interest.

--A family has a project to install new carpets. A carpet -seller comes for an estimate, gives an outrageous quote he calculates mysteriously in his own secret way, and the quote is getting accepted on the spot. No bargaining, no second opinions ets. Main reason- -What if he will think that we think that he thinks to fool us? meantime the mother of the family explains to the seller what do they do, and where do they work, and what their present and non-present kids do, and where do they work, and how old are they, and where they went to school, and that their income should be put ( in carpet-seller's papers) a little bit higher, becouse there is someone else is living in the house too, ets, ets, ets.

-- An American woman ( college educated), happened to be in the company of 3 foreigners , discovers that each of three foreigners knows more about American History than she does. Meantime, none of the three foreigners has a particulat interest in American History and none has any relation to the history field in general.

--to be continued

[Baldwin]

~~What time is the game on?

++Which one? Baseball, football, hockey, basketball, soccer, golf, or tennis? Then of course there's the different matches in each sport.

~~ Just put American Idol on then...

Do you understand now?

[Plantagenet]

The world is full of stupid people. Some of them even live in Europe. Here are some gutless wonders I know of in Europe:

--A European soccer yob, working class, generally nice guy, goes to a soccer match. His team loses. He becomes enraged and joins a mob to storm the field, beating and stomping an Italian policeman to death who tries to stop him.

--A group of German youth with shaved heads spend their days standing in front of the small Jewish museum in former East Berlin, swearing and yelling and harassing anyone who dares go into the Jewish Museum.

--A famous French philosopher, poet and Parisian, highly educated, of the left, is grateful to the US troops who risked their lives to liberate Paris. The gratitude lasts less then a week until he starts to compare the US troops to the fleeing Nazis and realizes he liked seeing the spiffy uniforms of the Nazis better as opposed to the sloppy looking US troops.

--All true stories, by the way

[holmes]

Got an Anarchist friend who moved to Sweden who used to rant and rave about America and Americans. he now misses so much about America and tells me about all the scumbags over in scumbag Europe. Only dullards with commie/nazi tendencies blame a single source. Expose them whenever possible becuase they are meaningless yet potentially dangerous little slobs.

[holmes]

This American is not interested in rat like breeding cultures of the turd world. You know the ones where they are piled on top of one another? You know where there is not one mile of open space. a roiling toiling mass of std's , BO, rotting breath and venereal diseases and viruses. This American likes open wilderness where one can breath fresh air. True freedom is in the wilderness. No interest in their filthy vile cultures. Know enough to stay the f away. bangladesh? What a hole.

[I_Like_Plants]

Pret -- A guy has 2 rural properties, one 9 and one 5 acres, both with houses and some half-empty sheds/barns/garages/ets . His daughter moves somewhere from somewhere, he helpes out with the move and rent a storage for her 10 boxes and a baby piano and a few chairs. $40-50 a month is the rent, and he pays it for over 6 years by now. Piano and chairs went somewhere over a year ago, so there are 10 boxes left, he agreed long, long time ago that its not a good idea to pay for that but he keeps paying, and paying, and paying. He is not rich at all.

ILP -- I've seen worse, how about someone on Section 8, so pays about $350 for a $1000+ a month apartment, makes near min. wage and rides a bike so is NOT rich. However, they keep 2 storages, pay another $350 a month for those, and the stuff inside is shit. Pays month after month after month. Oh, and her apartment is huge, she could store the shit in there or at least do some sorting and sifting and keep the non-shit, toss a lot of useless stuff. A lot of Americans are hoarders.

Pret --82 yo woman, with cancer in remission, who never leaves the house on her own/ browse internet keeps her credit card , ask her daughter to help her with that to make ocassional purchases, pay its bill ontime ets. Another creditscore nut?

ILP -- I've seen stuff like that, people who are very impressed with themselves for having a credit card, often one with a name like "gold" or "platinum" which is why so many have those names. They'd be better off w/o them but having one makes them think they are more "real".

Pret -- husband and wife, both in fifties, eat out 2-3 times a month, cook out 1-2 times a months, had never tasted lamb. Not that they dont want it for any reason, just never bought it/order it. Just didnt happen.

ILP -- America probably has the worst food and food attitudes on the planet.

Pret -- same couple goes to Mexican, Dominican and other Caribean resorts, and never leaves the resort itself. airport-resort-airport. And its not that they are despise/dislike/afraid of Mexicans/caribeans, no. Just doesnt happen. No interest.

ILP - They DO dispise anyone not nice and American and pink like them, but it's at such a deep, deep, level that consciously they don't feel that way. It's way underneath. It's just the old thing where anyone or more like any THING living outside the Empire is not really human and probably carries germs......


Pret --A family has a project to install new carpets. A carpet -seller comes for an estimate, gives an outrageous quote he calculates mysteriously in his own secret way, and the quote is getting accepted on the spot. No bargaining, no second opinions ets. Main reason- -What if he will think that we think that he thinks to fool us? meantime the mother of the family explains to the seller what do they do, and where do they work, and what their present and non-present kids do, and where do they work, and how old are they, and where they went to school, and that their income should be put ( in carpet-seller's papers) a little bit higher, becouse there is someone else is living in the house too, ets, ets, ets.

ILP -- Yeah, that's weird. No shopping around, no dickering, no questioning. And acting like the carpet installer is a new neighbor they'll be living next door to for the next 20 years. Which they'll not. Theory: Since Americans hardly ever invite nonfamily to their house any more, maybe the installer being inside the house triggers some sort of "you're marrying into the family" response.


Pret -- An American woman ( college educated), happened to be in the company of 3 foreigners , discovers that each of three foreigners knows more about American History than she does. Meantime, none of the three foreigners has a particulat interest in American History and none has any relation to the history field in general.

ILP - Americans are ignorant and they are PROUD of it. Un-Americans have to understand the Empire because well, as they say, know the enemy. If a huge evil elephant is about at any time to step on your house, you will get very interested, at least at some level, in understanding the elephant's history and thinking. I, an American, was not taught about the Civil War, WW's I or II, in school. We were taught a bit about our Revolutionary War, but that was mainly just something about Paul Revere, no real explanation of why the British were coming.

[da23]

holmes--you have your parents to thank you weren't born there.

tird world? grow the fuck up

I got a ravi shankar triple album here I'll smash up and stab you with the pieces if you don't stop dribbling shite on my internet

[BigTex]

I hope this isn't a "Your country's dumbasses are dumber than my country's dumbasses" kind of thread.

That would be a dumbass thread.

[OilIsMastery]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'O')ne would think that the mentality of white Americans shouldnt be much more different than one of theirs European ancestors

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', 'I')f one is racist one would think that.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', 'I')f one is racist one would think that.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', '
')
ILP - They DO dispise anyone not nice and American and pink like them, but it's at such a deep, deep, level that consciously they don't feel that way. It's way underneath. It's just the old thing where anyone or more like any THING living outside the Empire is not really human and probably carries germs......

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')I was touring my American relatives in NYC sometime ago. Could I manage to get them into a museum or an art gallery? No, of course not. Emp. State Building, and a hotdog at the Central Park-- thats all they wanted.

[Pretorian]

Sorry to disapoint you, but I've known thousands of Americans. I've known a Yale graduate who never heard of Ottoman Empire or Kievan Rus, for example. I've known prinston graduate, who have worked as a reporter for over a half-a-centuary and lived all over the world and didnt know a hell of a lot of common stuff. Still, its just about probably 0.001% of US population, probably too little to generalize. I am sure that most of the 99.999 % of US population I didnt happen to know DO know that Hawaii is USA, that Bahamas are not, that they dont need passport to go to Puerto-Rico, that they can find USA on the map and that USA won WWII, all by itself. I doubt that many know whom did US fight against though.

[OilIsMastery]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', 'I')f one is racist one would think that.

[evilgenius]

This is a good thread. As a traveling American I have heard the same about my fellow Americans thousands of times. Everyone cites different reasons. Some seem valid, some don't. I tend to think Americans are raised by their culture to believe that there isn't anything outside of it. I don't know if the culture is threatened or if has to do with a self reinforcing aspect of American style capitalism.

[holmes]

I just wish more would emigrate out of this country. The ones that have this mental illness where they want so much of the other "cultures" to be here. and I see dah2 is Al Gore. You know Al Gore invented the internet?
Africa is a cess pool. They slaughter their wild game by poisoning watering holes. They slaughter the Gorillas. They slaughter themsleves. Grow up? Liberalism is the most basic form of infantalism. The logic is so twisted that these people actually think they are the grown ups. no wonder things are the way they are.... The entire liberal mindset is one of a child. Never grew up. Living in childrens fantasy land. Reality is for grown ups. Liberals are based in a fantasy land Utopia. Hello! this Utopia will never ever existed.
and it is funny becuase true conservatism has been dead long ago. These neocons and neoliberals are one and the same. it is ALL neoliberalism. a deranged planet.

[holmes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', 'T')his is a good thread. As a traveling American I have heard the same about my fellow Americans thousands of times. Everyone cites different reasons. Some seem valid, some don't. I tend to think Americans are raised by their culture to believe that there isn't anything outside of it. I don't know if the culture is threatened or if has to do with a self reinforcing aspect of American style capitalism.

[holmes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')I was touring my American relatives in NYC sometime ago. Could I manage to get them into a museum or an art gallery? No, of course not. Emp. State Building, and a hotdog at the Central Park-- thats all they wanted.