[FatherOfTwo]

I read Monte's book, Madmen at the Helm, prior to the 2004 Christmas holidays. I've been re-reading it (when I have the time) and doing my own research. (Peak Oil and related issus are starting to suck up too much of my time... sigh, but it's worth it.)

Monte provides some interesting insights into the past wars and the people behind them. A few years ago I picked up Pearl Harbor: Day of Deceit, so it isn't entirely news to me that there is lots that goes on that isn't disseminated to the general public or included in our history books.

The thing I'm having the most trouble with from Monte's book is the inner circle, CFR and collectivist angle. I'm still trying to educate myself on it and corroborate from other sources. Lately I've been doing my own research on the CFR, because Monte's allegations are radical... and by radical I mean "Departing markedly from the usual or customary".

On page 8 he quotes that the CFR was founded for:
“the purpose of promoting disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government.â€

[FatherOfTwo]

FYI
I've posted a review of Monte's book, Madmen at the Helm, in the book/media review forum. For those who are familiar with Monte's posts and are interested in reading it, I'm sure that you can PM Monte and he'll send you the PDF version of it.
Book review is here:
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic4116.html

[stu]

You can count me amongst those that have read it too. I know I promised a review but after all the debate about 9/11 conspiracies that I had I thought "what the hell" and decided against it for fear of being labelled a wacko conspiracy nutjob kind of person. (too late I guess).

Monte does talk about the CFR and other related organisations and all of these play a big part in the New World Order conspiracy.

Will be good to hear your comments Monte.

Might as well post a review in the next few days.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FatherOfTwo', 'T')he thing I'm having the most trouble with from Monte's book is the inner circle, CFR and collectivist angle. I'm still trying to educate myself on it and corroborate from other sources. Lately I've been doing my own research on the CFR, because Monte's allegations are radical... and by radical I mean "Departing markedly from the usual or customary".

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('stu', '
')Monte does talk about the CFR and other related organisations and all of these play a big part in the New World Order conspiracy.

[skateari]

So where can we go to pick up this book?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skateari', 'S')o where can we go to pick up this book?

[Chuck]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', ' ') Who needs conspiracy theories when elite machinations are clearly described, and proven, in public documents readily available to anyone who wishes to read them? Frankly, folks, it's all out in the open now.

[Frank]

I just finished the book MQ - kudos.

I'll have to go back in a few weeks and reread it as there's a lot of material to absorb. Good job.

[theragtopguy]

I read it and thought is was very interesting and thought provoking. Although people that I have referred it to do not seem to agree-their loss!

Great job Monte, thanks!

[Aaron]

http://www.peakoil.com/reviews.html

[retiredguy]

Just finished reading "Madmen at the Helm." Taken as a whole, I believe it contains valuable information and would recommend it to anyone who is seriously interested in peak oil.

The one weak point is the is the attempt by Monte to build a conspiracy theory around the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He needs to provide a great deal more evidence to support his theory. It is hard for me to believe that an organization whose membership includes Donald Rumsfeld, Andrew Young, and Bill Moyers could mount a unity of effort in any direction, particularly one that proposes ceding national (and individual) authority to a worldwide governing council.

Also, I could pick nits with Monte's depiction of how the US became entangled in World War II. In general, however, he assumption that Roosevelt positioned the US to join that war is ultimately correct.

What really resonated with me was his statement on page 98 regarding the War on Terrorism:

"Rather than war, I would like to think that the best thing we could do to prevent another attack, would be to reduce this animosity towards America by examining what Muslim extremists are complaining about, what arguments al Qaeda's recruiters are using-and what can be done to destroy their arguments and cut the ground from under the fundamentalists."

This has been my thinking since 9/11. We aren't going to solve this problem militarily. Continuing the current policy will mean many more years of terrorist attacks which we will be nearly powerless to prevent. Reminds me of what happened during the 200 years the Brits ruled India.

Monte's next paragraph on the same page is also spot-on:

"Muslim societies are also increasingly resentful of our efforts to induce them to adopt our values, so we must also move away from the assertion that our values are "universal," while standing by our commintments to human rights and democracy. They see the export of our pop culture through the media and the Internet-which the Muslim world views as "nasty"-as a direct affront to their religious values."

Beautifully said.

I agree with Monte's conclusion, that only hope lies in using the remaining fossil fuels to create "a world of modest, bio-regionally organized communities living on received solar energy." This, however, represents a 180 degree change in direction. I have little hope that this can be achieved peacefully, probably not even through violent revolution.

I might get flamed for this, but it might be possible to achieve this transition if it were overseen by an all-powerful world council, Monte's worst nightmare. Then again, it is highly optimistic of me to think that a supreme world council would work for the betterment of mankind rather than pursuing their own interests. My reading of history tells me that absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('retiredguy', '
')
The one weak point is the is the attempt by Monte to build a conspiracy theory around the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He needs to provide a great deal more evidence to support his theory. It is hard for me to believe that an organization whose membership includes Donald Rumsfeld, Andrew Young, and Bill Moyers could mount a unity of effort in any direction, particularly one that proposes ceding national (and individual) authority to a worldwide governing council.

[retiredguy]

I'm much more fearful of the American Enterprise Institute, the home of the neo-cons. They have a definite agenda and it is being implemented by the current administration.

I got to know one of these folks through a college associate; he is a person of formidable talents and is very well connected in Washington. He and his group need to be monitored very closely.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('retiredguy', 'I')'m much more fearful of the American Enterprise Institute, the home of the neo-cons. They have a definite agenda and it is being implemented by the current administration.

I got to know one of these folks through a college associate; he is a person of formidable talents and is very well connected in Washington. He and his group need to be monitored very closely.

[The_Virginian]

I read "Mad men at the Helm" (thank you Monty!)

What I liked: the historical background in CFR and "Foundation" enterprises.

The truth about the Towers in NY. (More on this would have been better, but it would probly take a book in itself...)

The economic perspective was simple enough to understand, yet gave adequate coverage to make it meaningful.

Loved the Peak oil tie-in.

A real wake-up call to the un-initiated (pardon the pun).

What I think could use improving:

The Illuminati section was WAY under-developed. I was not particuarly happy how the Rothchilds got ALL the credit. Weishaupt was a Jesuit, and even he represented ony ONE REGIONAL band of Freemasons/illuminati (not to mention the Rosicrucians, "Templars," Gnostics, Hermetics, Alchemists etc.).

I see Monty's reliance on certain "conspiracy" websites hindering what could have been a better section on Freemasonry (leading to CFR).

One thing that is good about the Illuminati, no matter how wicked their plas, they (eventualy) reveal them...part of their religion (Rosicrucians are a n exception on this). IF you want to search, Writings by Albert Pike, "The Secret Teachings of all Ages" by (get this ) "Manly P. Hall" , and some others should be part of your library.

Over-all, with some additional background on Freemasonry it would be an EXCELENT book. As it stands now, I'm afraid it's only a ***

( thats a 3 star rating out of 5, whadya think it was? )

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', ' ')What I think could use improving:

The Illuminati section was WAY under-developed. I was not particuarly happy how the Rothchilds got ALL the credit. Weishaupt was a Jesuit, and even he represented ony ONE REGIONAL band of Freemasons/illuminati (not to mention the Rosicrucians, "Templars," Gnostics, Hermetics, Alchemists etc.).

I see Monty's reliance on certain "conspiracy" websites hindering what could have been a better section on Freemasonry (leading to CFR).

[AnnaLivia]

I found Monte’s book quite valuable indeed. I, too, thank him for sharing his informative effort. I will add that I found this article, about 16 pages long, called “Neo-fascism in Americaâ€

[Tapas]

I just finished reading the 111 page book titled "MADMEN AT THE HELM" authored by Monte Myers. This is a brilliant piece of research work that walks you through modern history showing you the shadow workings of the power elite in their eternal quest for world domination.

It analyzes the forces of the New World Order in play all the way through the creation of the Central Banks, the two World Wars, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War to the tragic events of 9/11. It is a gripping account that reads like a spy novel explained through the minds of a clear thinker.

Energy is central to life. To control people, you control money, which in turn controls the flow of energy or flux within a society. It is no surprise how the global elite has plunged us into these never ending resource wars.

Peak Oil is central to the understanding of past and present geopolitics. When one becomes aware of this geologic reality, the whole picture suddenly snaps into focus.
Monte has performed a thorough investigation. He has presented more clues and opened more avenues of thought than volumes of history books written by mainstream historians. It's up to the reader to connect the dots. As Monte admits - it is certainly not possible to provide binding proof for each case, but an intelligent reader weighs in his thoughts based on circumstantial evidence.

I see a preponderance of that.

For readers who are skeptical about the concepts behind the Global Elite and their various rings like the Round Table/Royal Institute of International Affairs, and the Bilderberg Group with their various interconnected components like the Club of Rome, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Relations and Tax Exempt Foundations, I would encourage them to breeze through this concise and simple explanation of how money works:

http://www.relfe.com/plus_5_.html

This is the best non-technical explanation I have found on the concept behind central banks and the fractional reserve banking system. After you comprehend the basic concept, it is not hard to see how money can be used as a form of control to manipulate ambitious politicians, shape the opinion of a select elite, influence the media and ultimately rule over the masses.

As a visual aid, check out this Organizational Chart of the Global Elite:

http://www.2012.com.au/Elite_Network.html

Monte’s ‘Madmen at the Helm’ along with Matt Savinar’s ‘The Oil Age is Over’ are the two best books to get a crash course on the Power Elite, their Geopolitics and the present ramifications of Peak Oil and the repurcussions it would have on your daily life.

P.S. I would like to add that Monte takes a very impartial look at the global situation. He does not take sides. It is important to understand that this is not a Liberal vs. Conservative or Republican vs. Democrat issue. We simply lose focus and energy by infighting amongst ourselves – exactly what the ruling elite wants us to do, who operate at a higher level, stay behind the shadows and control both sides.

[AnnaLivia]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tapas', 'I') just finished reading the 111 page book titled "MADMEN AT THE HELM" authored by Monte Myers. This is a brilliant piece of research work that walks you through modern history showing you the shadow workings of the power elite in their eternal quest for world domination.

For readers who are skeptical about the concepts behind the Global Elite and their various rings like the Round Table/Royal Institute of International Affairs, and the Bilderberg Group with their various interconnected components like the Club of Rome, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Relations and Tax Exempt Foundations, I would encourage them to breeze through this concise and simple explanation of how money works:

http://www.relfe.com/plus_5_.html