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Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simple

Unread postby Roccland » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 10:16:50

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')rom: "Sharefin"
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Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simple paragraph...
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Here it is, the summary of all of the financial crises going on, in ONE PARAGRAPH.

The current estimates on derivative exposure worldwide is about 450 trillion dollars. The world's total GDP for 2006 is estimated at 60-65 trillion dollars. If the derivative market comes unhinged it will require the entire world's financial revenue generation for seven years to bring all accounts to zero. Unravelling derivatives will almost instantly tank the entire planet's economy in one single operation, and no nation on Earth has the finances to stop the collapse once it starts in earnest.


There you have it, in a nutshell. This is why the talking heads are losing their composure and the doom-and-gloom crowd is growing in size and intensity.


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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 10:29:38

Derivatives aren't going away. As long as there are commodities and human beings to trade them there will be derivatives.
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby Roccland » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 10:35:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')INANCIAL SYSTEM IN JEOPARDY!

http://www.financia lsense.com/ editorials/ weiss/2007/ 0813.html

The Unbridled Growth

In 1998, the last time the derivatives market nearly blew up, there
were "only" $80 trillion in derivatives outstanding worldwide,
according to the BIS.

That was already huge.

But as I explained a moment ago, now the total derivatives
outstanding has jumped to $415 trillion, or over FIVE times more!

And just from 2005 to 2006, it surged by a whopping 39.5%, about TEN times faster than the growth in the global economy.
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 11:44:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'A')nd the richest of the several PTB is estimated to be worth 750 trilli0n dollars.

no sweat.
It will not collapse until they are ready. Not this year.

All part of Bush's plan. Muahaha.
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby Zardoz » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 12:07:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'A')nd the richest of the several PTB is estimated to be worth 750 trillion dollars.

Ah, the wonderful things you see posted on Internet forums...
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby evilgenius » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 12:53:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'A')nd the richest of the several PTB is estimated to be worth 750 trillion dollars.

Ah, the wonderful things you see posted on Internet forums...


I don't think it is conspiracy as much as necessity. They will need to stick together in order to keep their control/money intact. It works the same way with getting good jobs.
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 13:42:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'A')nd the richest of the several PTB is estimated to be worth 750 trillion dollars.

Ah, the wonderful things you see posted on Internet forums...


750 trillion dollars, eh?

Wouldn't that put him on the Forbes 500 list...somewhere near the top?

:lol:

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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby mmasters » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 15:15:28

There is a lot of family wealth out there that is due to subsidization and help from other families with great collective wealth. These partnerships, alliances and cartels comprise a form of wealth and power that cannot be measured by individual net worth. Very little power lies in individual net worth (collective net worth is where all the power is). Various laws envolving trusts help to disguise it as well as the media (by focusing on red herring views like "the richest man in the world" and never mentioning otherwise). And secret clubs and socieities help manage the collective force to overall further enhance control and power for the collective club.
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 15:22:15

Does it really matter whether you have 1 bln or a 100 bln? Can a multi-billionire sleep with more women /eat more food/ets than a regular billionire? Final question, if there are anyone on forbes list who cant be taken out by just 1 dedicated suicider? Or one highly skilled assasin?
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby BigTex » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 15:45:13

In a national security meeting one of Bush's advisors informed him that we had lost six Brazilian troops in Iraq.

The President immediately dropped his head and sighed deeply, in obvious pain.

"What's the matter Mr. President?" the advisor asked.

The President looked up and said "I don't even know how many a brazillion is."
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby Bas » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 16:10:14

derivatives or not only a speculative tool, they are widely used by companies and even states to cover certain risks, like the avation industry likes to cover the risk of higher kerosine prices using derivatives. Also speculators like to cover the excess in risk of derivative position with another derivative.

Here you can read more about derivatives:

Wikipedia/derivatives
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby Roccland » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 20:22:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he poster who said they will drop rates 1/4, 1/4, 1/2 then one is likely close. They'll fire it up again.


Bud Conrad at Casey Research...

He also posts at Bill Tamblyn's ERT YH Group.
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Thu 16 Aug 2007, 14:06:58

OK, so you have no actual evidence of these trillionaires.

I am highly suspicious of anyone claiming to control several trillion in wealth.

Hedge funds have assets in the low single trillion, not hundreds of trillions.

Where are they hiding this wealth, exactly?

Unless you can show an independent assessment of these mysterious super wealthy string pullers, I'm going to throw that into the waste bin of conspiracy theories.


World's richest 1% own 40% of global wealth

40% of global wealth is about 50 trillion dollars.

That is distributed among ~65 million people...

Most of those folks don't know more than a few dozen other super rich.

How can they collaborate on issues of any kind of complexity?
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Re: Why the financial world is scared to death, in one simpl

Unread postby Roccland » Thu 16 Aug 2007, 15:14:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'H')ey, just write it off as conspiracy, maybe it will cause one or two to not sell short and loose the house, just trying to help.
But there won't be a 29 crash this year.


I actually think there will be a worse than 29 crash this year for the following reasons:


1) Military bases from the Caspina Sea to Dubai are completed

2) The Iran theatre is set

3) There is no more controlling the "contagion" in global markets

4) PO will bite hard in the next 6-8 months - if not sooner

5) The "elections" in 08 cannot happen for TPTB.

6) Kissinger is getting old.

Got bunker?
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