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Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby seldom_seen » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 03:43:24

Men are born soft and supple; dead, they are stiff and hard. Plants are born tender and pliant; dead, they are brittle and dry. Thus whoever is stiff and inflexible is a disciple of death. Whoever is soft and yielding is a disciple of life. The hard and stiff will be broken. The soft and supple will prevail.

~Lao Tzu

It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.

~Charles Darwin

If you fall in to a swift river. You might panic and thrash about reaching for a branch or rock until your energy is spent and you succumb to the elements. You might try to stand up only to be swept off your feet hitting your head on a rock.

Or, you can point your feet downstream, tuck your knees towards your chest and go with the flow...join the river until you are deposited in a calm section where you can swim safely to shore.

I think the same goes for peak oil. Those who are able to go with the flow, to adapt, to adjust have a better chance of being deposited safely on the far side of the storm that is brewing.

Knowledge of what is happening is no guarantee of safety in the midst of chaos. One may be struck down by random cogs or flywheels as the machine breaks apart. People that are preparing though have already begun to adapt. They are paying off debt, starting gardens, storing food and water, decoupling from the grid, disentangling themselves from consumer culture.

Those unwilling to yield to the current will suffer the most. Governments, institutions and individuals that are rigidly set in their ways don't stand a chance.

That said, I have a lot sh*t to attend to. I need to get adapting. cya.
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby medicvet » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 03:55:15

You have a very good point. It isn't necessarily the richest or the best prepared who will survive, but those who have lived through enough life experiences that have taught them how to adapt..
Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe.-H.G. Wells

The only basis for a nation’s prosperity is a religious regard for the rights of others. - ISOCRATES
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby evilgenius » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 04:16:47

Like I think the super-rich are ultimately doomed. They will be replaced by another class. The future is open as to what that class will be, either feudal or something the world hasn't yet seen.
When it comes down to it, the people will always shout, "Free Barabbas." They love Barabbas. He's one of them. He has the same dreams. He does what they wish they could do. That other guy is more removed, more inscrutable. He makes them think. "Crucify him."
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 04:55:48

Rich may not be willingful to adapt at the beginning, but once they realised that inevitable is on horizon they will "throw money on adaptation projects".
So majority of them will adapt and surive more likely then poor.

Rich are not necessarily doing well during revolutions (albeit many of them are becoming opportunistic leaders of such revolutions, corrupting process by the same...).
In any case PO collapse will most unlikely deliver successful revolutions.
There is huge disparity of access to weapons between rulers and ruled these days, unprecedented in fact.
So ruling class is safe.
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby MacG » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 04:58:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'O')r, you can point your feet downstream, tuck your knees towards your chest and go with the flow...join the river until you are deposited in a calm section where you can swim safely to shore.


I agree strongly with this general description. Although, if you expect that it's a fair chance that you will end up in a torrent of cold water, those who wear a float jacket will be somewhat better off than those who dont.

I happen to know this from very practical experience of being swept away by mountain streams...
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby evilgenius » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 07:30:33

Yes, if you find yourself swept under in a river you should ball up and reduce your imprint.

Funny, with consolidation the rich are working toward a world where everybody has a reduced imprint, and they are still a percentage of it. That only holds through the first few iterations, though. It could be for them how merchantilism gave way to capitalism. The merchant class did not necessarily become the capitalists. Many were relegated.
When it comes down to it, the people will always shout, "Free Barabbas." They love Barabbas. He's one of them. He has the same dreams. He does what they wish they could do. That other guy is more removed, more inscrutable. He makes them think. "Crucify him."
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby Roy » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 08:24:11

Just wanted to say: great post Seldom!

Thought provoking and quite true IMHO.
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby TheTurtle » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 08:45:47

An excellent post, indeed, seldom_seen. I have long suggested that developing mental flexibility is the most important PO prep one can make.

And as a Daoist wanna-be, I appreciate that you started your post with a Laozi quote. :-D
“Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.” (Ted Perry)
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby Zardoz » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 09:34:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'T')hat said, I have a lot sh*t to attend to. I need to get adapting. cya.

Let's hope this isn't meant as what it appears to be. You would be missed around here.

Do drop by now and then if you get the chance.
"Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 10:09:28

I would just like to join the "Excellent Post" chorus and announce my membership in the Seldom Seen fan club.
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby seldom_seen » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 14:00:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'T')hat said, I have a lot sh*t to attend to. I need to get adapting. cya.

Let's hope this isn't meant as what it appears to be. You would be missed around here.

Zardoz, thanks. not going anywhere! (until someone prys this keyboard from my cold...) Just noticed it was about 1am when I was writing this and needed to walk the dog and pay some bills. hah.
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby Twilight » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 14:06:16

I couldn't agree more, fighting a strong current is counter-productive, tread water and wait until you're dumped at the next bend.

It still helps to be strong though; if your circulation is not up to the job, the cold will get you.

Balance the two though, and you're in the fight.
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby seldom_seen » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 14:26:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', 'I') have long suggested that developing mental flexibility is the most important PO prep one can make.

Turtle, another Taoist parable that comes to mind is the drunk falling off the cart...

If a drunk falls from a cart, he might be injured but he wouldn't die. His bones and joints are the same as other people's, but the amount of harm he receives is different than other people since his spirit is undivided. He wasn't aware of riding in the cart, and wasn't aware of falling out. Being startled or fearful of losing his life didn't even enter his mind, so when he tumbled he didn't try to resist by bracing himself.

The point obviously not being to go out and get toasted, but that your state of mind plays a big role in determining the outcome.
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Re: Only the strong will not survive

Unread postby Battle_Scarred_Galactico » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 04:56:33

You put water in the cup it becomes the cup.

You put water in the teapot it becomes the teapot.

Be like water my friend.

- Bruce Lee
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