[paimei01]

I am from Romania, we joined the EU this year, and I regret it.
We will receive orders and laws from the EU and we will obey them, because "nothing wrong can come from EU"
In our Constitution it says : "independent and self governed country", from where then do all these rules that nobody asked me if I like them or not, appear ? My influence on these laws from outside is almost nothing.
Where is the democracy , and the people that govern themselves ?

Good things from the EU - the freedom to travel and work everywhere in Europe. If indeed the people of Europe are friends and the European Union is their creation and their will, then the EU should stop at that, nothing more.

The EU constitution did not pass the vote of the people, it did not pass in the Netherlands and it did not pass in France.
But our "beloved leaders" found a way around our will : they named it a "treaty" not a "constitution"

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/08ad3c74-1cbd-1 ... 10621.html



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')It will no longer be a “constitution” and there will be some cosmetic changes to make it sound less threatening, but much of the original text remains. This is slightly embarrassing for countries like Britain, France and the Netherlands who are backtracking on referendum promises.

If all goes smoothly - and it is a big if - the new treaty could be in force in 2009 after ratification mainly in national parliaments.

EXPECTED TO STAY IN

● Full-time EU president - replacing six-monthly rotating presidency

● Single EU foreign minister (with a different name)

● European diplomatic service

● Slimmed-down 18-member European Commission (may be negotiable later)

● More qualified majority voting, fewer vetoes

● New voting system to make it easier to reach decisions

● Legal personality for the EU, allowing it to sign international treaties

EXPECTED TO BE AXED

● The “constitution” title: new text will simply amend old treaties

● Symbols of statehood: flag, anthem, motto (all will remain in practice)

● Charter of fundamental rights (but only hidden in an annex)

● Reference to primacy of EU law (it’s a fact anyway)

[dukey]

europe was created by the same people that funded adolf hitler
go figure

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'e')urope was created by the same people that funded adolf hitler
go figure

[dukey]

bush just traded with the enemy
it was the people that run the federal reserve that poured billions and billions of dollars into germany

[Bas]

definately some good criticism. The Union should be about good relations among Europeans and the EU should only be able to decide on things that are clearly linked to common market in order to bring more economic welfare to all the Europeans.

New Soviet Union? now there's a gross overstatement, if not a direct contradiction. Every democracy has those same limits that are mentioned by "that" Russian; I'd even go as far to say that the European government is a far better representation of the people than you possibly can get in the American or Russian system; the members of the European parliament ARE directly elected by the European peoples and those parlemenarians elect the commission.

BTW, paimei, also have your say on this thread :

Fellow Europeans, what's the Future of the EU?

[Plantagenet]

The EU local development projects are GREAT. When I lived in Europe I was very impressed with the EU funding for rebuilding parks, museums, etc. all across Europe. The rich EU nations spend a lot to help subsidize poorer EU nations.

Isn't Romania getting significant amounts of money from the EU to help with infrastructure?

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he EU local development projects are GREAT. When I lived in Europe I was very impressed with the EU funding for rebuilding parks, museums, etc. all across Europe. The rich EU nations spend a lot to help subsidize poorer EU nations.

Isn't Romania getting significant amounts of money from the EU to help with infrastructure?