[ryaninnyc]

How does North American Union"/Amero fit in?: I haven't read enough about the supposed plans of the Bush administration to lay the groundwork for merging the U.S, Mexico and Canada into one regional structure--North American Union. The first step of which was agreed to in 2005 by the leaders of the three countries. Marketed as the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP)."

It's suggested that the dollar will be replaced by something called the "Amero". Is this all just conjecture, generated by conspiracy theorists?

There are so many issues that point to the validity of this, not the least of which is the reluctance to enforce America's borders, and grant amnesty to illegal aliens.

I welcome any comments on the motives of the administration to push this; the uncertainty of the value of the dollar, greater access and control of oil, etc.

[Bas]

I don't think the Amero would solve anything; it might be good for trade between Canada Mexico and the US, but America will still be 3/4's of such a union; it would be more of a benefit to the other two countries as America, in terms of trade are more important to them then the other way around. It would do nothing to aleviate the trade deficit.

It might make more sense in the long run to have a common currency for all of the American countries but that definately is a thing for a distant future; I think we're already too close to a PO economic crisis for the Amero to be introduced; with growing economic uncertainties, countries will be unwilling to give up their currency and add to the uncertainties that way.

And oh yeah, I have never heard of any official plans or any official agency's name connected to the Amero, so this whole thing might be something of an internet "urban legend" kind of thing leading it's own life.

[Bas]

A search for "Amero" on google news has 313 hits.......but those are all on a person called "Julie Amero"

Google News/Amero

[FoxV]

Rumours of The North American Union and the Amero extend well beyond the internet.

Here's CNN and CNBC spilling the beans:
Lou Dobbs: North American Union Orwellian Brave New World
The Amero - North American Currency

I'm not sure if its mentioned in the videos, but it also appears that Bush can do this without the Senate involved by chipping away at laws that don't come under the Senate's jurisdiction.

As for where it all fits in, I would say its just more of the Neocon imperial expansion. Certainly none of the North American population would benefit by this, however the US power brokers would certainly gain a lot.

[Daculling]

SPP and NAU provisions are in the currently debated bill. No one talks about it because they all want it. The only thing they seem to be talking about is how to stifle/ignore the US citizens.

See here...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')EC. 413. BILATERAL EFFORTS WITH MEXICO TO REDUCE MIGRATION PRESSURES AND COSTS.
(a) Findings- Congress makes the following findings:
(1) Migration from Mexico to the United States is directly linked to the degree of economic opportunity and the standard of living in Mexico.

(2) Mexico comprises a prime source of migration to the United States.

(3) Remittances from Mexican citizens working in the United States reached a record high of nearly $17,000,000,000 in 2004.

(4) Migration patterns may be reduced from Mexico to the United States by addressing the degree of economic opportunity available to Mexican citizens.

(5) Many Mexican assets are held extra-legally and cannot be readily used as collateral for loans.

(6) A majority of Mexican businesses are small or medium size with limited access to financial capital.

(7) These factors constitute a major impediment to broad-based economic growth in Mexico.

(8) Approximately 20 percent of Mexico's population works in agriculture, with the majority of this population working on small farms and few on large commercial enterprises.

(9) The Partnership for Prosperity is a bilateral initiative launched jointly by the President of the United States and the President of Mexico in 2001, which aims to boost the social and economic standards of Mexican citizens, particularly in regions where economic growth has lagged and emigration has increased.

(10) The Presidents of Mexico and the United States and the Prime Minister of Canada, at their trilateral summit on March 23, 2005, agreed to promote economic growth, competitiveness, and quality of life in the agreement on Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.
(b) Sense of Congress Regarding Partnership for Prosperity- It is the sense of Congress that the United States and Mexico should accelerate the implementation of the Partnership for Prosperity to help generate economic growth and improve the standard of living in Mexico, which will lead to reduced migration, by--

(1) increasing access for poor and under served populations in Mexico to the financial services sector, including credit unions;

(2) assisting Mexican efforts to formalize its extra-legal sector, including the issuance of formal land titles, to enable Mexican citizens to use their assets to procure capital;

(3) facilitating Mexican efforts to establish an effective rural lending system for small- and medium-sized farmers that will--
(A) provide long term credit to borrowers;
(B) develop a viable network of regional and local intermediary lending institutions; and
(C) extend financing for alternative rural economic activities beyond direct agricultural production;

(4) expanding efforts to reduce the transaction costs of remittance flows in order to increase the pool of savings available to help finance domestic investment in Mexico;

(5) encouraging Mexican corporations to adopt internationally recognized corporate governance practices, including anti-corruption and transparency principles;

(6) enhancing Mexican efforts to strengthen governance at all levels, including efforts to improve transparency and accountability, and to eliminate corruption, which is the single biggest obstacle to development;

(7) assisting the Government of Mexico in implementing all provisions of the Inter-American Convention Against Corruption (ratified by Mexico on May 27, 1997) and urging the Government of Mexico to participate fully in the Convention's formal implementation monitoring mechanism;

(8) helping the Government of Mexico to strengthen education and training opportunities throughout the country, with a particular emphasis on improving rural education; and

(9) encouraging the Government of Mexico to create incentives for persons who have migrated to the United States to return to Mexico.

(c) Sense of Congress Regarding Bilateral Partnership on Health Care- It is the sense of Congress that the Government of the United States and the Government of Mexico should enter into a partnership to examine uncompensated and burdensome health care costs incurred by the United States due to legal and illegal immigration, including--

(1) increasing health care access for poor and under served populations in Mexico;

(2) assisting Mexico in increasing its emergency and trauma health care facilities along the border, with emphasis on expanding prenatal care in the United States-Mexico border region;

(3) facilitating the return of stable, incapacitated workers temporarily employed in the United States to Mexico in order to receive extended, long-term care in their home country; and

(4) helping the Government of Mexico to establish a program with the private sector to cover the health care needs of Mexican nationals temporarily employed in the United States.

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', 'S')PP and NAU provisions are in the currently debated bill. No one talks about it because they all want it. The only thing they seem to be talking about is how to stifle/ignore the US citizens. See here...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')EC. 413. BILATERAL EFFORTS WITH MEXICO TO REDUCE MIGRATION PRESSURES AND COSTS.
Bla bla bla
(5) Many Mexican assets are held extra-legally and cannot be readily used as collateral for loans.
Bla bla bla

[dr_doom]

I'm surprised no-one has talked about the new world order. Basically the global crime syndicate which run the US through
the banking system have 2 options, let the US dollar hyperinflate,
drawing unnecessary attention to the international bankers.

The preferable option being a transition to the amero,
which would probably be resisted by the american people. Especially now they are waking up the new world order agenda.

[Gerben]

I don't see how the Amero would actually accomplish much. The US has a huge trade deficit. The US needs a low dollar to be able to let its export sector grow. Canada as a supplier of raw materials on the other hands has benifits from a free floating currency. There is no "fit" between Canada and the US.

[mmasters]

The amero would unite all of north america into one single economic unit. It's going to take some big events though in order to manipulate the people to accept it.

[Delphis]

Just a thought and a conspiracy based one at that, but it is a dommer site, soooooo. If our current regime can assist in orchestrating something as big as 9/11, is it not a remote possibility they could orchestrate the removal of the dollar by transferrnig existing debts to the taxpayer thereby providing the Impetus for the Amero.

If your not familiar with the Amero, check this out: link I would like to hear your thoughts.

[Armageddon]

Destroying the US is the plan. The NWO's goal is to wipe everybody about and make ecerybody equal, equally poor with the exception of the elite ruling class. Why do you think they haven't closed the borders ? Many of the elites have admitted the NWO is coming. David Rockefeller said it is coming if we like it or not. Yes, the Amero is real.

[burtonridr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Delphis', 'J')ust a thought and a conspiracy based one at that, but it is a dommer site, soooooo. If our current regime can assist in orchestrating something as big as 9/11, is it not a remote possibility they could orchestrate the removal of the dollar by transferrnig existing debts to the taxpayer thereby providing the Impetus for the Amero. If your not familiar with the Amero, check this out: link. I would like to hear your thoughts.

[Armageddon]

Watch and learn: link

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'W')atch and learn: link

[Delphis]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'W')atch and learn: link

[Spanktron9]

Hey guys! Sorry I'm late. I couldn't find my tinfoil hat. Turns out I sat on it. Anyway, yeah NWO, Pole shift, Niburu, loch ness! Whoo hoo!

[mmasters]

Yes, this was all planned ages ago. The less currencies there are the easier it is to control the world and that's what this is about...taking down america to level the playing field then consolidating currencies. Just like how the investment banks are getting consolidated into the commercial banks. It's not rocket science but most people are too stupid to realize what's going on before their very eyes.

[Armageddon]

It really is hard to believe the sheer magnitude and intricacy of the web of deceit, fraud and outright lies that has been carefully woven around us! But the main reason most people refuse to believe that a conspiracy even exists, is that we have all been brainwashed into believing that such a thing could never happen! G. Edward Griffin, author of The Creature From Jekyll Island (an in-depth expose of the Federal Reserve), puts it this way: "The reason it [a conspiracy] is hard to accept is that we have been conditioned [by the conspiracy controlled media and education system] to laugh at conspiracy theories, and few people will risk public ridicule by advocating them. On the other hand, to endorse the accidental view is absurd. Almost all of history is an unbroken trail of one conspiracy after another. Conspiracies are the norm not the exception.' Or as author Arthur Edward Waite observed, "Beneath the broad tide of human history there flow the stealthy undercurrents of the secret societies, which frequently determine in the depths the changes that take place on the surface." link One of the best reads you will ever read.

[Armageddon]

What Andrew Jackson said about the Central Banking Cartel who took over the US' banking system:

In 1836, soon after the attempt on his life, Jackson said to the bankers, "You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out! If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning!"

[AlCzervik]

Not sure. Only Lou Dobbs in the MSM will touch the North American Union and Security Prosperity Partnership stuff.

A watershed moment for me would be if Morgan Stanley and/or Goldman Sachs bite the dust. I know all of these other companies which we have all said are too big to fail have, so you could argue what's the big deal about these other two? The point is, you can make a case especially for Goldman that they are the devious SOBs taking down the other investment firms with naked shorts or whatever and have the inside track to buy out most of American finance on the cheap. If the Fed takes over Goldman and/or Morgan, I truly believe either the system is crashing to the point that even these centuries old money masters can't survive, or, they are all being taken down under a mandate to consolidate under the Fed, which still ultimately reports to its money masters.