[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '
')
Do you posit that in a post-peak world, the SOL is going to continue to rise?

[PraiseDoom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '
')
Do you posit that in a post-peak world, the SOL is going to continue to rise?

[roccman]

With all due respect Monte...I think what Praisedoom was getting at was:

Mayhem and death in the streets...empty case of MRE's...people stealing gold fillings and boots off the dead...the stench of decomposing bodies...undrinkable water...burned and gutted homes...broken windows and blood stains...pillaging, roving gangs on "THE ROAD"...the despair...dreams gone...wails in the night.

[roccman]

Also...a small detail about the two year treasury bond auction today....

[sup]China DID NOT BID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/sup]

Rates UP!!!!

Wonder if China not buying our debt is a good thing...NOT!!!!!

Popcorn anyone??

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'W')ith all due respect Monte...I think what Praisedoom was getting at was:

Mayhem and death in the streets...empty case of MRE's...people stealing gold fillings and boots off the dead...the stench of decomposing bodies...undrinkable water...burned and gutted homes...broken windows and blood stains...pillaging, roving gangs on "THE ROAD"...the despair...dreams gone...wails in the night.

[PraiseDoom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'W')ith all due respect Monte...I think what Praisedoom was getting at was:

Mayhem and death in the streets...empty case of MRE's...people stealing gold fillings and boots off the dead...the stench of decomposing bodies...undrinkable water...burned and gutted homes...broken windows and blood stains...pillaging, roving gangs on "THE ROAD"...the despair...dreams gone...wails in the night.

[Starvid]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Starvid', ' ')Sure, there will be an increase in temperature, even if we stopped today. I never said anything else. I said I don't think it will be very serious.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', ' ')Not a date in time.... 9000+ posts and you haven't gotten around to figuring this out yet?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Starvid', ' ')Things are not at all serious at this moment. Off course, that depends on what you call serious.

I mean what has happened?

People always moan about the weather. If it's colder than usual that's because of climate change, and if it's warmer it's due to climate change, and if it's perfectly normal no one thinks of it, they don't say: "hey, you know, the weather is normal so climate change isn't that bad!".

And still, weather doesn't have much to do with climate in the short term. Climate is about averages over longer time spans. In the last 100 years average temperatures rose about 1 degree Celsius if I recall correctly, and things are still fine. If they rise another degree it won't be a disaster. But if they rise 3, 4, or 5 degrees it might be rather awful. But this is not going to happen because the ultra-cornucopian IPCC is very, very wrong about fossil fuels.

[Chaparral]

Starvid really needs to do himself a favor and read "With Speed and Violence, Why Climate Scientists Fear Tipping Points in Climate Change" by Fred Pearce.

It is a quick easy read with large print and there are enough references in the back that even a modestly skilled grad student could go find all sorts of supporting arguments in the peer-reviewed journals.

There appears to be far more to climate change than just CO2 ppm. It looks as if there are some pretty nasty feedback loops, non-linearities involving CH4, various oscillations and water under the ice caps as well.

[PraiseDoom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', ' ')Not a date in time.... 9000+ posts and you haven't gotten around to figuring this out yet?

[smiley]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') mean what has happened?

People always moan about the weather. If it's colder than usual that's because of climate change, and if it's warmer it's due to climate change, and if it's perfectly normal no one thinks of it, they don't say: "hey, you know, the weather is normal so climate change isn't that bad!".

And still, weather doesn't have much to do with climate in the short term. Climate is about averages over longer time spans. In the last 100 years average temperatures rose about 1 degree Celsius if I recall correctly, and things are still fine. If they rise another degree it won't be a disaster. But if they rise 3, 4, or 5 degrees it might be rather awful. But this is not going to happen because the ultra-cornucopian IPCC is very, very wrong about fossil fuels.

[Starvid]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Starvid', ' ')Things are not at all serious at this moment. Off course, that depends on what you call serious.

I mean what has happened?

People always moan about the weather. If it's colder than usual that's because of climate change, and if it's warmer it's due to climate change, and if it's perfectly normal no one thinks of it, they don't say: "hey, you know, the weather is normal so climate change isn't that bad!".

And still, weather doesn't have much to do with climate in the short term. Climate is about averages over longer time spans. In the last 100 years average temperatures rose about 1 degree Celsius if I recall correctly, and things are still fine. If they rise another degree it won't be a disaster. But if they rise 3, 4, or 5 degrees it might be rather awful. But this is not going to happen because the ultra-cornucopian IPCC is very, very wrong about fossil fuels.