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Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby stu » Tue 22 Nov 2005, 20:40:44

Top 10 net importing countries 2004 (MBD)

1. United States of America- 12,100,000

2. Japan- 5,300,000

3. China- 2,900,000

4. Germany- 2,400,000

5. South Korea- 2,200,000

6. France- 1,900,000

7. Italy- 1,700,000

8. Spain- 1,600,000

9. India- 1,300,000

10. Taiwan- 1,000,000


Top 10 net exporting countries 2004 (MBD)

1. Saudi Arabia- 8,730,000

2. Russia- 6,670,000

3. Norway- 2,910,000

4. Iran- 2,550,000

5. Venezuela- 2,360,000

6. United Arab Emirates- 2,330,000

7. Kuwait- 2,200,000

8. Nigeria- 2,190,000

9. Mexico- 1,180,000

10. Algeria- 1,680,000

Source: EIA (Energy Information Administration) 2004
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby skateari » Tue 22 Nov 2005, 21:04:15

What happened to Iraq being in the top 10 exporting country?

Or did they just drop Americas net import amount and add Iraq's exports to Americas "domestic use", being that we control Iraq??
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby FoxV » Tue 22 Nov 2005, 23:53:21

There is also a bit of hidden reality in those numbers. As the exporters start to deplete, they will still keep their own consumption up. So that means the over all depletion as far as the rest of the world is concerned will be much higher, and accelerating

Take Iran's official statement or 400,000bpd depletion per year. This gives them depletion rate of around 10% (4m bbl/d total production).

however they will just reduce their exports so if we assume 10% decline for the country this gives us exports of:
2007 - 2,150,000 (16% reduction, -400,000bpd)
2008 - 1,790,000 (17% reduction, -360,000bpd)
2009 - 1,420,000 (18% reduction, -324,000bpd)
2010 - 1,133,000 (20% reduction, -278,000bpd)
...
2015 - Net importer.

This is also optomistic because as long as they are not nuked, their economy will grow very rapidly as they rake in cash. So if we give them a consumption growth of 3.5% (2004 industrial growth rate), they become net importers by 2013.

Something to consider when looking at Cambell's graph of oil production. Available oil supply looks considerably different depending on whether you look at it as an Exporter or an Importer (unless of course you have a binding delivery contract with a nuclear armed neighbour :( )

(for my data I used the CIA factbook, and news article posted up front about Iran's depletion)
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby malcomatic_51 » Tue 10 Jan 2006, 17:33:18

Why does South Korea import so much oil? More than France? Almost as much as Germany? Surely it hasn't the level of car ownership or mobility of either of those countries?
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 10 Jan 2006, 19:44:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('malcomatic_51', 'W')hy does South Korea import so much oil? More than France? Almost as much as Germany? Surely it hasn't the level of car ownership or mobility of either of those countries?


Among other reason South Korea has 48 million people and 14.9 million private cars and buiulds about 1 million cars per year.

France has a population of about 60 million and builds about 250,000 cars per year, I couldn't find a figure on private car ownership.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby kokoda » Tue 14 Nov 2006, 06:10:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('malcomatic_51', 'W')hy does South Korea import so much oil? More than France? Almost as much as Germany? Surely it hasn't the level of car ownership or mobility of either of those countries?
It takes quite a lot of energy to build America's keyboards and powersupplies.


Thats an interesting point ... I wonder what percentage of the oil imported into China, Korea, Taiwan, Japan etc is required to produce goods for the United States.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Kingcoal » Tue 14 Nov 2006, 19:32:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kokoda', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('malcomatic_51', 'W')hy does South Korea import so much oil? More than France? Almost as much as Germany? Surely it hasn't the level of car ownership or mobility of either of those countries?
It takes quite a lot of energy to build America's keyboards and powersupplies.


Thats an interesting point ... I wonder what percentage of the oil imported into China, Korea, Taiwan, Japan etc is required to produce goods for the United States.


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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 15 Nov 2006, 07:50:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', '
')Plastics are hydrocarbons (made from petroleum.)


While it is true that all plastics are hydrocarbons it is NOT true that all hydrocarbons come from Petroleum. Right now the vast bulk of them do because oil is cheap, but nylon was originally made from Mulberry pulp/sap and Casin plastics IIRC were made from whole milk. Eliminate oil and you might also take milk out of the Western diet, but would that be a really bad thing?
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby sirrom » Mon 21 May 2007, 09:28:03

can somebody update this list for 2006 or 2007 please
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby sirrom » Sun 27 May 2007, 13:03:00

where do you find this information?
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby sirrom » Sun 27 May 2007, 13:16:54

top 20 oil importers

1 United States 13,150,000 2004
2 Japan 5,449,000 2001
3 China 3,181,000 2005
4 Netherlands 2,284,000 2001
5 Korea, South 2,263,000 2004
6 Italy 2,158,000 2001
7 Germany 2,135,000 2003
8 India 2,090,000 2005 est.
9 France 1,890,000 2005
10 Spain 1,582,000 2001
11 United Kingdom 1,084,000 2003
12 Belgium 1,042,000 2001
13 Canada 963,000 2004
14 Turkey 616,500 2001
15 Sweden 553,100 2001
16 Australia 530,800 2001
17 Greece 468,300 2001
18 Indonesia 424,000 2005 est.
19 Poland 413,700 2001
20 South Africa 398,000 2006


top 20 oil exporters


1 Saudi Arabia 7,920,000 2003
2 Russia 7,000,000 2005
3 Norway 3,466,000 2001
4 United Arab Emirates 2,500,000 2004 est.
5 Iran 2,500,000 2004 est.
6 Venezuela 2,100,000 2004 est.
7 Kuwait 1,970,000 2003
8 Mexico 1,863,000 2004
9 Canada 1,600,000 2004
10 Iraq 1,500,000 2006 est.
11 United Kingdom 1,498,000 2001
12 Netherlands 1,418,000 2001
13 Libya 1,340,000 2004
14 Algeria 1,127,000 2004 est.
15 United States 1,048,000 2004
16 Kazakhstan 1,000,000 2005 est.
17 Oman 721,000 2004
18 Korea, South 645,200 2004
19 Australia 523,400 2001
20 France 474,200 2005


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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby TorrKing » Sun 27 May 2007, 13:24:35

I was under the impression that Norway had moved down to 5th place of top exporters.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Tanada » Sun 27 May 2007, 17:01:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sirrom', 't')op 20 oil importers

1 United States 13,150,000 2004
2 Japan 5,449,000 2001
3 China 3,181,000 2005
4 Netherlands 2,284,000 2001
5 Korea, South 2,263,000 2004
6 Italy 2,158,000 2001
7 Germany 2,135,000 2003
8 India 2,090,000 2005 est.
9 France 1,890,000 2005
10 Spain 1,582,000 2001
11 United Kingdom 1,084,000 2003
12 Belgium 1,042,000 2001
13 Canada 963,000 2004
14 Turkey 616,500 2001
15 Sweden 553,100 2001
16 Australia 530,800 2001
17 Greece 468,300 2001
18 Indonesia 424,000 2005 est.
19 Poland 413,700 2001
20 South Africa 398,000 2006

source:cia factbook


Thats all well and good but when we do a side by side like this

1 United States 13,150,000 2004

2 Japan 5,449,000 2001

3 China 3,181,000 2005

4 Netherlands 2,284,000 2001
6 Italy 2,158,000 2001
7 Germany 2,135,000 2003
9 France 1,890,000 2005
10 Spain 1,582,000 2001
11 United Kingdom 1,084,000 2003
12 Belgium 1,042,000 2001
14 Turkey 616,500 2001
15 Sweden 553,100 2001
17 Greece 468,300 2001
19 Poland 413,700 2001

These 11 European countries with an area and population quite similer to the USA import 14,226,600. Leave out the UK because they still export part of the time and you still get 13,142,600
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby sirrom » Tue 29 May 2007, 11:37:48

i guess we are just as addicted to oil as you guys then
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby sirrom » Tue 29 May 2007, 11:38:07

i guess we are just as addicted to oil as you guys then
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Bas » Tue 29 May 2007, 16:25:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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Thats all well and good but when we do a side by side like this

1 United States 13,150,000 2004

2 Japan 5,449,000 2001

3 China 3,181,000 2005

4 Netherlands 2,284,000 2001
6 Italy 2,158,000 2001
7 Germany 2,135,000 2003
9 France 1,890,000 2005
10 Spain 1,582,000 2001
11 United Kingdom 1,084,000 2003
12 Belgium 1,042,000 2001
14 Turkey 616,500 2001
15 Sweden 553,100 2001
17 Greece 468,300 2001
19 Poland 413,700 2001

These 11 European countries with an area and population quite similer to the USA import 14,226,600. Leave out the UK because they still export part of the time and you still get 13,142,600


you gotta subtract what the netherlands and France re-export too, as you see they are in the top 20 exporters list as well as in the importers list.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 29 May 2007, 19:25:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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Thats all well and good but when we do a side by side like this

1 United States 13,150,000 2004

2 Japan 5,449,000 2001

3 China 3,181,000 2005

4 Netherlands 2,284,000 2001
6 Italy 2,158,000 2001
7 Germany 2,135,000 2003
9 France 1,890,000 2005
10 Spain 1,582,000 2001
11 United Kingdom 1,084,000 2003
12 Belgium 1,042,000 2001
14 Turkey 616,500 2001
15 Sweden 553,100 2001
17 Greece 468,300 2001
19 Poland 413,700 2001

These 11 European countries with an area and population quite similer to the USA import 14,226,600. Leave out the UK because they still export part of the time and you still get 13,142,600


you gotta subtract what the netherlands and France re-export too, as you see they are in the top 20 exporters list as well as in the importers list.


As you wish

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')op 20 oil importers

1 United States 13,150,000 2004

2 Japan 5,449,000 2001

3 China 3,181,000 2005

4 Netherlands 2,284,000 2001
6 Italy 2,158,000 2001
7 Germany 2,135,000 2003
9 France 1,890,000 2005
10 Spain 1,582,000 2001
11 United Kingdom 1,084,000 2003
12 Belgium 1,042,000 2001
14 Turkey 616,500 2001
15 Sweden 553,100 2001
17 Greece 468,300 2001
19 Poland 413,700 2001

top 20 oil exporters

11 United Kingdom 1,498,000 2001
12 Netherlands 1,418,000 2001
20 France 474,200 2005

15 United States 1,048,000 2004


OK same countries as before from the top twenty lists.

USA net imports 12,102,000
European 11 net imports 10,836,400
The difference is 10.5% with Europe being that much more efficient in sucking up Petroleum to provide very similer standards of living.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby madrid » Tue 29 May 2007, 23:48:41

But those countries together comprise over 500 million people, whereas the US comprises 300 million.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 30 May 2007, 07:00:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('madrid', 'B')ut those countries together comprise over 500 million people, whereas the US comprises 300 million.


Show me the census figures for those 11 countries listed.
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