[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I')t's not that Asians and Hispanics as a race compared to whites are having more children...it's that the majority of them are young and in prime reproductive range.

Look at the age demographics.

[Plantagenet]

The total fertility rate (TFR) or average number of children per woman given current birth rates-- was 2.1 children per woman in 2005. Among racial and ethnic groups, the TFR was highest for Hispanics at 2.9 children per woman, compared with 1.8 for non-Hispanic whites, 2.0 for non-Hispanic blacks, 1.9 for Asian and Pacific Islanders, and 1.7 for American Indians and Alaska Natives.

i.e. TFR does indeed vary by racial and ethnic group, with

Hispanics = 2.9 children per woman

blacks = 2.0

Asian and Pacific Islanders = 1.9

whites = 1.8

American Indians and Alaska Natives = 1.7




from the Population Research Bureau website.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', ' ')i.e. TFR does indeed vary by racial and ethnic group,

[Plantagenet]

Population reference bureau website

http://www.prb.org/Home.aspx

The replacement TFR for a population is a bit more then 2 (i.e. two kids per woman).

The US population continues to grow due to our birthrate and immigration, while some European countries are actually shrinking due to low birth rates ( some have TFR < 1.5).

[Plantagenet]

You are right, Monte. The PRB numbers for TFR are only their estimate, based on federal data, of the current fertility of American women in their child-bearing years.

[holmes]

My motto is you love em go live with em. AND GET RAPED. Buwahahahahaha! Funny shit. Do not worry the fertile crescent collapse will take care of them.
Umm its so not about race! and those numbers for hispanics are somwhat low. Common sense and observation says it is more 3-4 per breeding female. They breed more than they do in their latino nations. Its a fact. They get hand outs here. its like feeding gold fish in a pond.

[Baldwin]

Some of you do have a point...we (the US) should stop interference in Mexico. All it has caused in a marked increase in importing Mexico's main export: the poor, sometimes criminal masses.

Immigrants from Asia, the caribbean, and Europe like to begin working legally. Asians are a "model minority" with their per capita income and level of education. Caribbean blacks may not be the best educated, but they understand the value of honest work. In fact most of the black students in my predominantely white, middle-class school are from recently immigrated black families. The native born blacks are looking for their bling-bling. Anyway...

I am in favor of a militarized border with Mexico. Given the imminent doom the post-peak future is showing, keeping undesireables out should be in our top 3 priorities....unless of course you want a balkanized America. In that case, please, "diversify" the nation.

[holmes]

I have a computer science masters degree. I know exactly what races bust ass and are intelligent and hard working. They can not get into the country! :-O There were ZERO whites and blacks in my graduating class.

[Ayame]

I read this today and thought of this thread.

India's slum population doubles in two decades

The number of people living in slums in India has more than doubled in the past two decades and now exceeds the entire population of Britain, the Indian Government has announced.

India’s slum-dwelling population had risen from 27.9 million in 1981 to 61.8 million in 2001, when the last census was done, Kumari Selja, the Minister for Housing and Urban Poverty Alleviation, said.

article

[holmes]

It is a called suicidal culture. America is a suicidal culture.

[Baldwin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I') have a computer science masters degree. I know exactly what races bust ass and are intelligent and hard working. They can not get into the country! :-O There were ZERO whites and blacks in my graduating class.

[pea-jay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', 'I')n the racist rants, some worthy points have been made. Let's take a look at 4 colonies that gained practical independence from a European overlord: USA, Canada (this is where the word practical comes in), Nigeria, and Rwanda. The US and Canada grew and flourished. The US was set back by the Civil War, but it grew and developed to be greater than any European nation. Canada is the ideal model on how to gain independence peacefully and keep peace. Angola (fmr. Portuguese) has suffered from civil strife to the point of calling in mercenaries. Rwanda has seen some of Africa's worst genocide.

[pea-jay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('undertaker', '
')So now we have this multicultural mess, and Whites better adapt by adopting the same kind of racial solidarity that every other race has. This isn't "Leave it to Beaver" land anymore where we could take a White majority for granted. Now we have to put aside the sports teams, and take up a new sport -- extreme racial demographics football! We have to learn to cheer when White babies are born and White communities increase their percentage, and boo when . . . well, you get the picture.

[pea-jay]

[quote="baldwin"]We have to look at why young caucasians aren't having kids. In my family atleast, the young (my generation) are dealing with longer stays in college for that masters or other specialized training. Furthermore, the cost of living doesn't help. Also, a culture of responsibility-free sex doesn't help.

White people are having kids. ALmost at replacement rate actually. But as monte said it is about the age demographics. THere are more younger Hispanic and Asian women that are having children than young white women. The only way the white population could have maintained the same percentage is to have reproduced at the same rate as their baby Boomer predecessors. But they didnt and immigration and natural increase did the rest.

But here is the other factor: Not all whites went on to have white kids. At least in the eyes of the government anyway. I didnt. Some of my white classmates didnt. Same here at work. Ditto for my extended family which was not quite white to start with. Why?

Interracial marriage.

The rates are high and among my generation and younger, not really a big deal. Except when it comes time to "count the kids". Are they white? Well, no not really. How about black/asian/etc? Well no not completely either. Except prior to 2000 the US counted them in the non-white classification they identified with (even if they also checked white) or classified them as "other". After 2000, you get the interracial talley.

In anycase, there you have the answer to where all the white babies went to.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') care because I have seen what happens when non-Whites take over a country. They don't keep things the way they were. They don't keep freedom of speech and transparent government and free market economy. They turn the country into a badly run third world mess. Look at South Africa or Zimbabwe. That's the way we are headed.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', 'T')he man from Champoeg, OR (aka ghost town) is giving advice on social diversity. Brilliant.

As for the rest of your strawman, please point out where I made any specific allegations to which you are alluding.

[NEOPO]

A world apart

again and again and again and again......

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I') have a computer science masters degree. I know exactly what races bust ass and are intelligent and hard working. They can not get into the country! :-O There were ZERO whites and blacks in my graduating class.

[Baldwin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') care because I have seen what happens when non-Whites take over a country. They don't keep things the way they were. They don't keep freedom of speech and transparent government and free market economy. They turn the country into a badly run third world mess. Look at South Africa or Zimbabwe. That's the way we are headed.

[I_Like_Plants]

Look - here's how it works. For the average Joe, lower population is good and good for the Earth. However, since we're all part of the corpgov monster now, and the monster lives on endless growth, even we think Growth Is Good!

In my day, and I'm a 1960s model, white families were still having lots of kids. WWII and just old habits die hard. 5 kids in my family and we were trying for 6, one miscarried.

However, a number of factors resulted in people who were living well having less kids. Corpgov doesn't like this, and is essentially saying through its actions, "If you people won't breed I'll import some who will!".