[canis_lupus]

Colorado_Valley --

Thanks for the quote - I'm a huge fan of LOTR. That line resonated with me when I first heard it, and still holds true.

Now, then, how are we going to spend the time that we have?

[PolestaR]

I'm a relatively big time doomer (with proof to back up the fears like most) and get depressed time to time about the end times approaching. It's not that I care if I die or not, just that I'm not preparing the best I can for it, or something along those lines. Not quite sure exactly, but PO true awareness doesn't exactly make you the life of the party.

No now your Mr ShitPants, willing to shit on everyone's consumerist dream to buy 5 houses and a truck to travel to work in. Everytime I hear a god-damn fucking person tell me their plans or what they are up to I feel like fucking stabbing them with the truth. Sometimes I hold back, others not, it's hard. The less you deal with people in general the better your mind will be for it, unless of course you actually need a lot of social input to function (you'll probably be one of the first to die when shtf). My advice is to get a partner, or a group of people who share your thoughts and stick with them. That's what I have and when I'm not depressed I'm relatively happy.

Either way you're stuck in this waiting vortex not unlike most christians who are seeking their end times, thinking they are the unique generation (like 80 of them have since Jesus supposedly died). Quite frankly I wish it would happen now, and I try to do my best to make it happen sooner rather than later.

I used to be a christian, from my childhood up until a year or 2 ago. The older I got the less I "really" believed in it, but I prayed occasionally and still thought Jesus existed, etc. I mostly believed in christianity due to elder relatives (when I was like 6 or 7) warping my mind thinking that 1996 was going to be Judgement day, which started my fascination with Revelations and the end times.

Either way, christianity is bullshit, after I free'd myself from its grasp and got over the "what happens when I die" depression, I am actually a lot better now. It is like a massive burden off your shoulders. You have one life, live it, fuck the rules society gave you, fuck the morals your parents and society gave you, they mean nothing. Everything is on the table. From a christian perspective I would call myself someone deeply ingrained with Satan, but from my new perspective I'm like a caged lion let out back into the wild. It's very hard to become wild and back in touch with your true self, deprogramming from societies and other inputs. I'm not joking either. Most facets of the programming exist so you can be in the community where these values are desired, so unless you're a good actor you'll likely have to be the loner type to avoid early inprisonment.

[DJ_Mittens]

Arguing with evangelists such as EndDays is like arguing with a brick wall - may be fun for a while, but blind stupidity will always win. However, I don't mind exploiting the fun while it can be had!

How can I say this nicely ED? Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe. The only proof you have that your beliefs are true are a 2,000 year old book. The only proof you have that a 2,000 year old book is true is because you think your beliefs are true. You offer no tangible verification of anything in the Bible. At all. Learn about logic and philosophy, then come back here.


Now, to everyone suffering from POD, you're part of a group. That's what's great about PO.com - you can come here, appreciate that you are not alone, and you can learn more about how to overcome your individual grief through open eyes. You can see the world for what it is just a bit better, and that makes you stronger.

To expand on Tolkien, just realise you're a part of history. Imagine being part of Rome during its last days. You are potentially living on the brink of a massive historical event. Do your best to make the most of this time, and maybe even leave a mark on history for millenia to come.

Through hardship humanity has always prevailed. It takes time, and suffering through that hardship, but there is always a glimmer of hope. Just realise the next society to be built upon the ruins of this one will be all the stronger for our mistakes. That's what makes life so much fun!

[Denny]

In belonging to this forum, I must say, I find that every day can be a downer.

So, why do we keep coming back for more?

Its like we are experiencing the opposite of the self help books, in which you start by projecting yourself into a good future place and make the commitment and plans to end there. We project ourselves into a world of deprivation and misery and even death itself.

Maybe we need to work hard, pray some and leave the big picture int the hands of the big guy, perhaps? I know a neighbourhood priest (Orthodox) who says just that. He claims that people with a solid faith are by nature optimists and also more likely to be successul in all dimensions of life. Especially the most important objective, achieving heaven. He says we should take each day as it comes as a blessing. Stop worrying. I got to say, he seems happy and lives a simple life but has a nice car and reasonably hot looking wife. He does not drive all that much, often walks to his church. (I am not being covetous.)

What are you like by nature?

[Jack]

I voted that I'm looking forward to a world in chaos.

100% true.

Yeah, I'll buy the farm at some point. But there are worse ways of dying than with a machinegun in your hands and a curse on your lips.

[basil_hayden]

Somebody in the past here had the theory of personality types, I think INTP was dominant. Seems like a good explanation to me.

But depressed? I don't think so. Fired up!

Chaos will let the individual shine, I think. Personally I'm done with this global dependence BS.

[NEOPO]

Hell yeah! Break out the Ammo and the Camo bitches!!!
Get some! Get some!!!

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'I') voted that I'm looking forward to a world in chaos.

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', 'S')omebody in the past here had the theory of personality types, I think INTP was dominant. Seems like a good explanation to me.

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'I') voted that I'm looking forward to a world in chaos.

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'I') voted that I'm looking forward to a world in chaos.

[Revi]

I was thinking about this today. I started to talk about peak oil , and I became sleepy. I think that this is a response to the sheer depressingness of the topic. I fall asleep in the dentist's chair, if it's too hot or if I'm going to be sea sick. I think it's my mind's way of shutting itself off in the face of any inevitable, but painful thing. Peak oil is becoming one of those things that puts me to sleep.

As it looms closer I feel the need to nap even more.

[PolestaR]

If you think this forum is a downer you haven't been around peak oil and collapse scenarios long enough. For most of us it is what we call a base line level now.

[Eli]

Well I for one am not depressed by nature, I love birds and trees, sunshine all that shit.


But talking about the end of life as we know it and global die off bums me out.


I keep coming back because we consistently talk about things here that don't happen for a few weeks to a month.

That is enough warning to go fill up or buy supplies before the heard does.

[Kristen]

A. Misery likes company

B. Soak up the waves while you're still here. Every emotion and sensation are an unexplained miracle.

C. Take the bus, In good old Minnesota, it gets to drive on the shoulder, making for a faster commute.

D. Life is suffering, so deal with it.

[threadbear]

I'm pretty happy and looking forward to the future, as I think it will be just so interesting. Sometimes when I think about the suffering global warming is causing, I become grief stricken, and this is actually what buffers any depression I feel about peak oil. It's necessary, if the planet is to survive, to quit burning fossil fuels.

Depressed, no. Anxious--yes--quite. Intrigued--very.

And God helps those who help themselves. That preacher who says just enjoy every day as it comes along is silly. Every day is an anxiety olympiad, where you see if you can outperform your nervousness of the previous day in order to outmaneuver the reality that awaits you. Survival of the fittest, is survival of the most nervous.

[lotrfan55345]

No, but we are all messed up in some way.

[kochevnik]

Depression is primarily anger directed inwards.

Think how many people in this day and age are depressed.

Now think about why they are angry.

[PrairieMule]

Am I Depressed? No. Cautiously Optimistic? Yes! Ecclectic? Maybe. Try to absorb it all with a sense of humor ? You bet.