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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Newsseeker » Tue 08 May 2007, 09:10:37

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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Newsseeker » Tue 08 May 2007, 09:21:58

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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Fredrik » Tue 08 May 2007, 09:22:51

"Zionists" seem to have become the ubiquitous all-powerful enemy figure that some people need to blame the world's problems on.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'F')rance had to prohibit the free exercise of religion in its country in order to get a hold of its radical Muslim problem.


In a democracy, the government can't prohibit religion per se. Besides, I don't think the immigrants' religion is as much a problem as the lack of integration among the immigrants and their lack of respect for the host culture. Not that actual muslim fanatics couldn't become a real threat if they gain enough demographic momentum, but I don't know if that's imminent in any Western country.

I don't blame the French for trying another kind of policy after the failure of the previous policies.
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Eli » Tue 08 May 2007, 11:01:23

Well that is the whole problem France is having with the Muslim immigrants.

Individual Muslims are fine as long as they are not too fundamental in their beliefs.

Islamists are a different group all together and their world view runs counter to modern liberal democracies in Europe. The Islamists long to be under Sharia law, which is archaic and unworkable in a modern culture.

Liberal Socialism has a tough time dealing with the root of the problem, the desire to be politically correct and respect other cultures and beliefs hampers their efforts.

The problem is Islamist's ideas suck and should be derided as fundamentally based on ignorance. Anyone desiring to live under Sharia law should be deported.

How can a subculture that desires that all women not just muslim women be covered head to toe by black bags exists in host culture that celebrates the nude female form?

The whole basis for burqa's is retarded, the reason a women has to be covered is not to protect her own modesty but to protect the salvation of men. Muslim men are so weak that just by the mere sight of women's knee cap or wrist they may be tempted to sin.

In a liberal democracy the above idea should not be respected, it should be mocked and suppressed.
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby kabu » Tue 08 May 2007, 11:15:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '
')I, along with my family was "ethnically cleansed" from a French suburb by Muslims in the nineties. It was a ghetto that had been refurbished at massive cost. Those white people who were stupid enough to accept to come and live there soon realised their mistake. We were the last to leave after one year. It was the most humiliating time of my life, trying to maintain dignity in front of constant racist/"religionist" harrassment. Apparently the muslims considered the area to be theirs.

Not to downplay your experience, but it's hasty to generalize what happened to the people that moved into an impoverished, closed neighborhood to what's going on with the rest of France's Muslim population; we have no reason to take this as representative sample.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'I')t was after being driven out that I tried to come to terms with what had happened, the constant violence and hate. I initially blamed it on the French, with their history in north Africa. Then I saw the same patterns of behaviour in Muslim ghettos in different countries. That was when I realised that this is an organised approach of Islam when conquering new territory. There is no other way to explain it when seen in relation to other minorities, who do not display this behaviour on a consistent basis.

This all happened long before it became fashionable among the right-wing to demonise Muslims.
Again, you're referring to the ghetto scenario. Why are all these Muslims foreigners living in ghettos, except for in my home country, Canada? Additionally, and especially after your own experience, are we to believe your observations to be thorough and unbiased? No, they're anecdotal: no more objective that the observations that sustain white prejudice against blacks, in America.

I myself live in Vancouver, where what you describe certainly takes place between the whites/asains/indians, but I have yet to hear of it in the area where the whites and Iranians live together.
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby kabu » Tue 08 May 2007, 11:23:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')France had to prohibit the free exercise of religion in its country in order to get a hold of its radical Muslim problem.

This claim is unsupported.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')Image

A graph is worth 1,000 pictures.

The French are more concerned by the threat posed by Muslim Extremists than even the United States and Great Britain!

That's why a man like Sarkozy wins by 6 points.

Are you implying that there's a strong correlation between concern over Islamic extremism and Islamic extremism? If so, then you're jumping to conclusions.

What that chart does explain, though, is how beneficial it might be for a politician to pander to the French's belief that Islamic extremism is a significant threat to them.
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Tue 08 May 2007, 13:04:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')France had to prohibit the free exercise of religion in its country in order to get a hold of its radical Muslim problem.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his claim is unsupported.


:?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/02/world/main597565.shtml

France Bans Head Scarves In School
Senate Adopts Controversial Law Forbidding Religious Apparel


"President Jacques Chirac must now formally sign it into law within 15 days. He had said such a law was needed to protect the French principle of secularism.

The law forbids religious apparel and signs that "conspicuously show" a student's religious affiliation. Jewish skullcaps and large Christian crosses would also be banned, but the law is aimed at removing Islamic head scarves from classrooms."

Freedom of Religion in France
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Declaration of the Rights of Man
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 08 May 2007, 13:06:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kabu', ' ')Why are all these Muslims foreigners living in ghettos



The socialists and liberals in Europe, with the best of intentions, built huge government-controlled high rise housing complexes outside the major cities. This government subsidized housing is reserved for people with low incomes. Many Muslim immigrants have low incomes, and have become concentrated in these high-rise suburbs. Some low-income areas within the cities have also become largely Muslim "ghettoes."
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby kabu » Tue 08 May 2007, 15:20:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')France Bans Head Scarves In School
Senate Adopts Controversial Law Forbidding Religious Apparel


"President Jacques Chirac must now formally sign it into law within 15 days. He had said such a law was needed to protect the French principle of secularism.

The law forbids religious apparel and signs that "conspicuously show" a student's religious affiliation. Jewish skullcaps and large Christian crosses would also be banned, but the law is aimed at removing Islamic head scarves from classrooms."

Freedom of Religion in France
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R.I.P.

Tyler, I know what the French are doing, but nothing supports that they "had" to do this to "get a hold of its radical Muslim problem". The claim that the French government has to do this is still unsupported.

Just because it's their solution, doesn't mean it's the only one. I suspect there are some assumptions we don't agree on?
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby basil_hayden » Tue 08 May 2007, 20:54:25

Danm, that semi-hot MILF lost the election? I thought she was a shoe-in.

As seldom_seen was (I think) eluding to:

if you can read this, you ARE the Illuminati.

Stop blaming others just because you think you're powerless.

You asked for this, all of it, as I have. Now deal with it, all of it.
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby dukey » Tue 08 May 2007, 20:55:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ay 7, 2007 -- Nicolas Sarkozy (whom are French intelligence sources have referred to a the "little French Hitler") will govern France with the help of two Silvio Berlusconi- and Rupert Murdoch-like billionaire neo-con French media moguls, Martin Bouygues and Arnaud Lagardere. Bouygues owns the TF1 television channel, which can be expected to act as Sarkozy's own version of the U.S. Republican Party's Fox News Channel. Lagardere's media group owns the Europe 1 radio network, Paris Match, several French regional newspapers, and is a major stakeholder in the French television network Canal+. Sarkozy is known to censor any news reports that are unfavorable to him and pressure publishers and editors to fire wayward journalists. With much of the French media in his pocket, expect the Franco-Hungarian Sarkozy to institute a new era of Janos Kadarist-style censorship in his nation.

The French election, from the start, has been plagued by election fraud -- bogus polling data, false exit polls, and electronic voting machine and machine counting irregularities were hallmarks of the first presidential election round. ES&S's I-Votronic machines were used in both elections across France. Only Sarkozy's party was supportive of the machines, with all the other political parties calling for a moratorium on their use. Turnout in the French election was 85 percent. With large turnouts historically favoring the left in France, the exit polling and actual polling were at odds with the turnout -- an indication of massive election fraud.

Similar polling irregularities were experienced in recent elections in Scotland, Wales, and England. In Scotland, 100,000 ballots, thought to mostly be cast for the pro-independence Scottish National Party, were declared "spoiled" in Scotland's election. That "glitch" cost the Scottish Nationalists a larger majority in the Scottish Parliament. Irregularities in Wales and England similarly affected larger margins for Welsh and Cornish nationalists. As the Bretons and Corsicans will soon discover with Sarkozy, regional nationalism is anathema to the globalist neo-con agenda, particularly the international bankers who want strong centralized control and minimal devolution of power to local and regional governments.

The electoral malfeasance of neo-cons in manipulating elections in France, Britain, Canada, the United States, Italy, Australia, Peru, Costa Rica, Mexico, and other countries will remain a problem until the people, acting through the power of progressive, anti-globalist, and anti-capitalist governments, seize control, via whatever means necessary, of the media, the voting and vote counting process, and the opinion polling mechanisms.



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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Eli » Tue 08 May 2007, 21:14:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', 'D')anm, that semi-hot MILF lost the election? I thought she was a shoe-in.

As seldom_seen was (I think) eluding to:

if you can read this, you ARE the Illuminati.

Stop blaming others just because you think you're powerless.

You asked for this, all of it, as I have. Now deal with it, all of it.


I wouldn't say she was semi hot, Royal is 53 years old.

She is an attractive women of that there is no doubt but to look as good as she does at 53, she is officially hot.
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Denny » Tue 08 May 2007, 23:22:46

[quote="Eli
I wouldn't say she was semi hot, Royal is 53 years old.

She is an attractive women of that there is no doubt but to look as good as she does at 53, she is officially hot.[/quote]

Well, she is going to have some time now on her hands, and she is not officially married. She's got an amazing figure for a 53 year old woman, that is for sure.
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Newsseeker » Wed 09 May 2007, 08:59:28

She's hot but not a good candidate.
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 09 May 2007, 17:20:28

Segolene Royal is a hot French version of Hillary Clinton.
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Re: France's new President

Unread postby Eli » Wed 09 May 2007, 17:52:47

Nah not quite, Hillary is in the pocket of AIPAC and she is both against and for the Iraq war. She talks tough about Iran and is a lot more similar to her husband.

She does want to reform health care and that would be a good thing if done right. Obamma is more like Royal.

I seriously think people like Obamma because they don't know anything about him he is as bleeding heart as you can get and that offends a lot of people. Once his platform starts to come out his star will fade.

A hardcore republican I know said out of all the democrats he liked Hillary the best. I think even Rush has some respect for old Hill.

Royal was a bleeding heart socialist in a country that has a serious immigration problem.
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