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The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby k_semler » Thu 28 Apr 2005, 18:44:51

THE GOVERNMENT WE'RE STUCK WITH
by Joe Sobran

Are you trapped in an abusive relationship with your government?
Does it do all the taking and none of the giving? Has it become increasingly demanding and dependent? Does it refuse to admit being at fault? Does it always insist on being the dominant partner, while refusing to accept its own responsibilities? Does it run up huge bills and stick you with the payments? Is it secretive and evasive about its activities, while denying you your own space and privacy? Does it demand your undivided love, while remaining emotionally distant from you and indifferent to your basic needs?

If you answered yes to all these questions, you have a problem. In fact, you have the same problem every American taxpayer has.

What's more, there's no solution. If you had a spouse that behaved like your government, you could not only break free of the relationship, you might be able to collect damages or even have the offender jailed, or at least ordered to stay away from you. But the cost and inconvenience of divorcing your government is prohibitive. You have to leave your home, move far away, and start a completely new life.

For many people, the problem is aggravated by denial -- the need to pretend that everything is all right because many other governments are even worse. They feel guilty if they criticize their own government, which constantly tells them how lucky they are not to be living elsewhere. It's as if an alcoholic, adulterous wife-beater were to keep reminding his wife that she's fortunate he's not O.J. Simpson.

The modern state stands ready to release you from all your duties to your own family, while constantly increasing your political obligations. You can divorce your spouse, neglect your parents, abandon or abort your children. But you'd better pay your taxes, most of which will be spent for the benefit of people you've never met and have never agreed to support.

This system of forcing some to pay others' way is justified as "compassion," but it's an inversion of the natural order of love, the family-centered affections that modern liberalism despises as narrow and selfish. It's typical of the champions of the all-absorbing state that even as they treat the family as something a child must be protected from, they try to clothe the state itself in the warm metaphors of "family," "community," and "village."

Our public discussion seems to assume that it's the destiny of the state to keep getting bigger, without limit. We are told that we're not being governed unless Congress is continually passing new laws. But this confuses governing with legislating. We have more than enough laws, while the most basic ones are being enforced less and less. The disparity between the number of laws on the books and the will to punish violent crime ought to tell us something, but it doesn't seem to. We complain about "partisan bickering" and "gridlock" and demand that Congress get back to passing more laws, any laws.

The current Congressional ethics scandals have almost nothing to do with the central problem: defining the proper role of government. Neither party has anything worth calling a philosophy; both talk vaguely about reducing government's size without specifying its nature, purpose, and limits. But it's obtuse to discuss political questions exclusively in terms of quantity, in an inane dialectic of empty uplift and equally empty cynicism.

In reality, both parties seem to feel we're stuck with the kind of government we have. It's instructive to contrast their vacuous debates with the real debates this country witnessed before the Civil War. Not only was the rhetoric grander; the substance was solid. From Jefferson and Hamilton to Lincoln and Douglas, people argued about the principles of government, on the assumption that they could still shape their destiny.

We can't assume that anymore. A sense of dull doom hangs over our politics, as if the fateful decisions have already been made for us, and all that's left is a little wiggle room. The awful part is the suspicion that we may be getting the kind of government we deserve.

Fair Use--Copyright (c) 2005 by the Griffin Internet Syndicate,
Here Lies the United States Of America.

July 04, 1776 - June 23 2005

Epitaph: "The Experiment Is Over."

Rest In Peace.

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Re: The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 04 May 2007, 21:22:28

Is there anywhere on Earth today where the above is not the case? If so tell me by PM so I can move before the Sheeple catch on!
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Re: The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby Specop_007 » Fri 04 May 2007, 22:29:29

I tend to hate *all* governments. They seem to cause the most problems. Look at iran for example. The young Iranians actually like the Western culture. But the Iranian government? They keep poking the West in the ribs trying to get a response.

And how about America and China.

People arent going to send the world to hell, governments are.
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Re: The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Fri 04 May 2007, 22:31:14

Publically traded corporations can be just as oppressive as any government. Often, big government and big business do all they can to ensure the existence of each other, to the expense of everyone else's liberty and livilihood.
The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the old growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder. ~Thomas Jefferson
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Re: The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby seldom_seen » Sat 05 May 2007, 00:19:09

Tanada, have you taken on the role of re-animator of old threads?

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Re: The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby pea-jay » Sat 05 May 2007, 00:52:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'T')anada, have you taken on the role of re-animator of old threads?

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LOL Seldom...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('specop_007', 'I') tend to hate *all* governments. They seem to cause the most problems.


Just a reminder, a lack of government is not the antidote to "oppressive governmental rule" Its a recipe for anarchy. By those standards, somalia ought to be considered utopia.

Since we have long ditched the tribal hunter-gather stage, some form of government is essential to maintain some form of civilized existence.
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Re: The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Sat 05 May 2007, 01:04:20

A common mistake is to consider Somalia a nation with an anarchistic government. This is quite far removed from the truth. It is more feudalistic than anarchistic, run by tribes of warlords and mercenaries. Governments don't necessarily have to exist on paper, for them to really exist.
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Re: The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby TWilliam » Sat 05 May 2007, 03:27:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pea-jay', 'J')ust a reminder, a lack of government is not the antidote to "oppressive governmental rule" Its a recipe for anarchy. By those standards, somalia ought to be considered utopia.

Since we have long ditched the tribal hunter-gather stage, some form of government is essential to maintain some form of civilized existence.


Exactly. And the antidote to oppressive external government is internal self-governance - which is the nature of true anarchy, rather than the chaos mislabeled as such. But that would require a nation of genuinely mature adults, rather than the current nation of adult children.

Personally I don't see anything even vaguely resembling that anywhere on the horizon...
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Re: The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 05 May 2007, 08:50:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'T')anada, have you taken on the role of re-animator of old threads?



It does seem to have worked out that way, but I was just looking through the old stuff in memory of my two year anniversery and sort of got sucked into it. As a history buff I try and look at where I have been to figure out where I am going.....
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Re: The Government We're Stuck With

Unread postby Newsseeker » Sat 05 May 2007, 09:41:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'I')s there anywhere on Earth today where the above is not the case? If so tell me by PM so I can move before the Sheeple catch on!


The Yanomamo in the Amazonian rain forest have tribal government. Hope you like hunting monkeys and gathering wild produce. :lol:
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