[Zentric]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('purcatty', 'I') did notice that the pillar was still standing, which is interesting.

and also the floor below it that was not heated did not collapse at all when hit, because it was cold steel and did not collapse.

So even with a tank trunk it did not pancake through the levels.

It is a good point, when things collpapse, the pillars remain standing, don't they?

[Tyler_JC]

Hahahaha.

It is threads like these that keep me coming back to this site.

You guys are just too funny.

[pea-jay]

This accident didnt remind me of CTs of any type...

look at the droopy, goopy bridge.



kinda like this

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'W')hy did the overpass COLLAPSE INTO ITS OWN FOOTPRINT?

[Laughs_Last]

I heard the tanker driver, "James" Mosqueda, took driving lessons but didn't want to learn how to park.

I head that the California DOT reported the highway collapsed on their website half an hour before it actually did.

I heard that all the Teamsters who commute over that highway were told to stay home on 4/29.

I heard the union members were buying highway construction equipment the day before this happened.

I heard that the truck driver met with disciples of Jimmy Hoffa during a period of time that he spent at a trucker's training camp. Some of you already know about Hoffa's 911 involvement. We must demand an inquiry into this connection.

[tsakach]

The official cover story for this is that the truck driver had a "history of criminal convictions, including felony drug and burglary arrests".

Press Telegram: Driver shortage led to trucker screening test being relaxed

"The TSA acknowledges that its screening rules are contributing to a trucker shortage but a spokeswoman said Tuesday it isn't designed to identify people with Mosqueda's type of criminal record, which includes a two-year prison term for a 1996 heroin conviction, as well as arrests for burglary, felony drug charges and possession of stolen property, according to court records."

"We're looking for terrorists," spokeswoman Andrea McCauley said. "We're looking for people who would be involved in terrorist activities - that's the scope."

So let's see if I got this right - there is a shortage of truck drivers caused by the TSA's screening rules, which screen out so-called "terrorists" but allow ex-cons with felony drug charges to drive around with trucks loaded with hazardous materials.

Sounds typical of the Bush administration , nothing unusual here.

[tsakach]

"While crews sifted through the wreckage, some scientists were studying linkages between the freeway collapse and how the World Trade Center came down on Sept. 11, 2001.

The structural failures appear similar, said David McCallen, division leader in nonproliferation, homeland and international security at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

The steel supporting the overpass turned pliable after the gasoline-fed fire below reached temperatures up to 2,000 degrees (1,093 Celsius) - more than four times as hot as the hottest conventional home oven."

Pravda: Driver in San Francisco Bay Area highway collapse had multiple felony convictions

[I_Like_Plants]

This is the same thing we've been talking about all along - fuel's short, we won't worry WHAT we burn, EPA regulations go down the drain. Drivers in short supply, hire felons!! Chinese wheat cheaper, hey who cares if it's full of melamine? Falling empires tend to eat themselves from within.

[I_Like_Plants]

This is the same thing we've been talking about all along - fuel's short, we won't worry WHAT we burn, EPA regulations go down the drain. Drivers in short supply, hire felons!! Chinese wheat cheaper, hey who cares if it's full of melamine? Falling empires tend to eat themselves from within.

[Laughs_Last]

Reformed convicts have got to do something to earn a living. Being a truck driver seems like a fine thing for one of them to be doing. Assuming of course that the former convicts are held to the same standard as any other truck driver.

[Zentric]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Laughs_Last', 'R')eformed convicts have got to do something to earn a living. Being a truck driver seems like a fine thing for one of them to be doing. Assuming of course that the former convicts are held to the same standard as any other truck driver.

[I_Like_Plants]

I agree, felons have to do something..... but the requirements for a gasoline truck driver in this area is that one not be a felon. The truck itself in inspections was found to continually lack maintenance, little things like brakes and stuff like that. The trucking co. did nothing to fix these "fix it" tickets.

No need for new laws, just enforce the ones on the books.

But we won't do that, because that costs money - again I must say, capitalism will buy the rope to hang itself cut-rate from china, then hang itself.

[Plantagenet]

When do NAFTA regulations go into effect and Mexican truck drivers will be automatically licensed to drive Mexican trucks into the USA?

[I_Like_Plants]

As soon as they can possibly ram it through, of course.

[dukey]

by 2010 north america will be like europe

[Niagara]

I expect to see more and more of this sort of thing with rising fuel prices.

Police Seek Tanker Stolen From Baltimore Gas Station

Forgot car-jacking, the new crime-du-jour will be 'tanker-jacking'

[DomusAlbion]

This is the third one I've heard of today.

We should start a sticky "Mad Max" thread to catalog all these events.

[jdmartin]

I like the "mad max" sticky idea.

Hey, why not steal a tanker? 7,000 gallons of diesel at $3/gallon=$21,000 worth of diesel. If you've got someplace to store/hide the truck, you can drive an awfully long time on that amount of fuel. Or sell it to some business on the black market.

[RonMN]

or use it as heating oil...

If it's the 3rd one today I hope it's not an attack.

[thor]

I'd expect crime to increase significantly at gas stations, it could become very deadly at some point. Stealing fuel trucks is a just preview of what is coming.