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Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Cynus » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 17:43:47

It's May 2007, 2 years after the C+C peak (assuming the updated stats over the next couple months don't show a large increase).
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby PraiseDoom » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 18:29:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'I')t's May 2007, 2 years after the C+C peak (assuming the updated stats over the next couple months don't show a large increase).
Where are all the zombies?


STOP!!! Comparing Post-Peakedness to reality isn't fair and doesn't count. I just paid $4.50/gal for gasoline yesterday, isn't that bad enough for you?
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Valdemar » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 18:39:38

$4.50 a gallon?! Ouch!

But anyway, the idea that as soon as peak is hit, we suddenly resort to Dawn of the Dead is somewhat fantastical. Price rises, stock consolidation and muscling out of smaller energy users is what will be immediate concerns and what we're seeing now.

When demand really is outstripping supply, then you'll get your Hollywood-esque problems. By 2010, you'll be well into that.
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby DantesPeak » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 20:54:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'I')t's May 2007, 2 years after the C+C peak (assuming the updated stats over the next couple months don't show a large increase).
Where are all the zombies?


In Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Sudan. The poorest who can no longer afford oil products will suffer first.
It's already over, now it's just a matter of adjusting.
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 20:54:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '.')..I just paid $4.50/gal for gasoline yesterday, isn't that bad enough for you?

Where did you pay that?

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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby PraiseDoom » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 23:55:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '.')..I just paid $4.50/gal for gasoline yesterday, isn't that bad enough for you?

Where did you pay that?

(Welcome to the boards, BTW.)


Regina Saskatchewan.

Was in an elevator earlier in the day, and the guy beside me talking to someone else make a crack that it was a good day when we paid $5/gal for gas, and I got a surprised look on my face and said "excuse me?" and he said "yeah, expensive gas means a thriving economy because lots of people are using gas".......wow......like HE sure didn't know we were 2 years in and are all lucky to be alive this late in the game.
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Geko45 » Tue 01 May 2007, 00:26:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'W')here are all the zombies?

Here

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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Newsseeker » Tue 01 May 2007, 08:20:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '.')..I just paid $4.50/gal for gasoline yesterday, isn't that bad enough for you?

Where did you pay that?

(Welcome to the boards, BTW.)


Regina Saskatchewan.

Was in an elevator earlier in the day, and the guy beside me talking to someone else make a crack that it was a good day when we paid $5/gal for gas, and I got a surprised look on my face and said "excuse me?" and he said "yeah, expensive gas means a thriving economy because lots of people are using gas".......wow......like HE sure didn't know we were 2 years in and are all lucky to be alive this late in the game.


Wonder if $10 gasoline would cause him to pull his head out of his ass?
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby PraiseDoom » Tue 01 May 2007, 09:46:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newsseeker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '.')..I just paid $4.50/gal for gasoline yesterday, isn't that bad enough for you?

Where did you pay that?

(Welcome to the boards, BTW.)


Regina Saskatchewan.

Was in an elevator earlier in the day, and the guy beside me talking to someone else make a crack that it was a good day when we paid $5/gal for gas, and I got a surprised look on my face and said "excuse me?" and he said "yeah, expensive gas means a thriving economy because lots of people are using gas".......wow......like HE sure didn't know we were 2 years in and are all lucky to be alive this late in the game.


Wonder if $10 gasoline would cause him to pull his head out of his ass?


Good question. Thats only a doubling from current prices, I guess it would depend on how exposed he is to high transportation costs. Now that the weather is good, we're back to bicycles here in Saskatchewan, motorcycles are out, heck, I walked to dinner last night.
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Pops » Tue 01 May 2007, 18:26:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'I')t's May 2007, 2 years after the C+C peak (assuming the updated stats over the next couple months don't show a large increase).
Where are all the zombies?


I guess I stayed away too long or was never paying attention to begin with, cause I have no idea what C+C means.

Conventional plus condensate?

Crude plus coal?

My grades in science and math? On second thought, I guess it is too late for them to be updated.

Or were you thinking cadavers plus cordwood?


No matter, are you itching to make Zombies into cadavers and cordwood perhaps?
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Cynus » Tue 01 May 2007, 20:29:12

Crude and condensate peaked in May 2005 and has been down since.
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Pops » Tue 01 May 2007, 21:52:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'C')rude and condensate peaked in May 2005 and has been down since.


Sorry for the digression.

Your question stands…

Where ARE the zombies?


{Crap, I had my Zombie handloads all ready and now they are spoiled!}
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby MonteQuest » Tue 01 May 2007, 22:14:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', ' ')I guess I stayed away too long or was never paying attention to begin with, cause I have no idea what C+C means.

Conventional plus condensate?



Close, Pops. Crude Oil + Condensate As of Feb 2007:

All Liquids: the peak is still July 2006 at 85.47 mbpd, the year to date average production in 2006 (11 months) is 84.59 mbpd, up 0.01 mbpd from 2005.

Crude Oil + NGL: the peak date remains May 2005 at 82.08 mbpd, the year to date average production for 2006 (11 months) is 81.40 mbpd, down 0.03 mbpd from 2005 (11 months).

Crude Oil + Condensate: the peak date remains May 2005 at 74.15 mbpd, the year to date average production for 2006 (11 months) is 73.48 mbpd, down 0.09 mbpd from 2005 (11 months).

NGPL: the peak date remains February 2005 at 8.05 mbpd, the year to date average production for 2006 (11 months) is 7.92 mbpd, up 0.06 mbpd from 2005 (11 months).

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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby MonteQuest » Tue 01 May 2007, 22:21:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', ' ')Where are all the zombies?


Mostly at home, drinking themselves into a stupor, as their houses are sold at a foreclosure auction on the local courthouse steps.
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Newsseeker » Wed 02 May 2007, 08:27:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'C')rude and condensate peaked in May 2005 and has been down since.


Yeah but it's been a slow decline which makes me wonder if it is a plateau or not? Guess I'll know in five years.
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Cynus » Tue 07 Aug 2007, 13:20:34

The EIA updated their figures for up to May 2007 today and we're officially 2 years without a production increase.
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby gnm » Tue 07 Aug 2007, 13:31:50

LOL Pops! Cadavers + Cordwood!

While I tend to believe that we are indeed post peak the small declines have been met by (unwilling) demand destruction in the third world. Ironically in many places which are actually oil producers. So the current slowly declining plateau has not really impacted the developed world yet (or anyone who can afford the increases) - But as I understand it at some point the production declines begin to increase rapidly and thats when we will see not just expense but unavailability in the developed world as well.

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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby Cobra_Strike » Tue 07 Aug 2007, 13:54:48

I am not seeing zombies, but I am seeing people hopped up on anti depressants. You know the look; vacant and blank stares.

Only time left to wait and see.
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby PraiseDoom » Sun 12 Aug 2007, 10:52:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', '
')Where are all the zombies?


Take the blue pill. You aren't supposed to notice.

Is it possible that all the hysterical armwaving related to PO aftereffects was just a neocon scam?
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Re: Hooray! We're 2 years post-peak!

Unread postby XOVERX » Sun 12 Aug 2007, 11:23:51

If crude production never again exceeds that May 2005 high, then you need to value and enjoy every day that seems "normal."

I really don't understand those that keep wanting the pain to arrive yesterday.

If oil has peaked, abnormal times are a'coming. And those right soon.
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