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Re: Oil crisis: Mass layoffs feared in Thailand

Unread postby Geko45 » Fri 12 May 2006, 23:07:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'G')oing to the (modern) parts of Bangkok is just like the downtown of any other major city. It's not some 3rd world mass of starving people.

And it ain't your typical American or European city either.

BTW, your sig-line and avatar are just plain creepy...
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Re: Oil crisis: Mass layoffs feared in Thailand

Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 12 May 2006, 23:53:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WillMissTennis', 'Z')ardoz, the only reason people are on this sight is because peak oil has to do with them. Peak oil isnt just some media hype, infact they are covering it up as if life will go on as normal for generations to come. Peak oil = problems for everyone[i]


I'm being sarcastic to the extreme. JD is the one who's serious. (Or not. Some of us think he's actually just playing the role to yank our chains.)

You're new here, so you don't know about JD. There are also others lurking around who really do feel its all a media event, and that nothing much is going to change. They're in deep denial, of course. Those poor guys in Thailand are the "canaries in a coal mine". They're among the first to feel the effects.
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'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby KevO » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 13:43:44

hai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has declared a state of emergency in Bangkok amid reports of a coup attempt. Soldiers have entered Government House and tanks have moved into position around the building.

Mr Thaksin, who is at the UN in New York, said he had removed the chief of the army.National television announced that forces had taken control of Bangkok "to maintain law and order", and that they were declaring loyalty to the king.

However, the BBC's Kate McGeown in Bangkok says King Bhumibol is held in high esteem by all Thais, and the declaration of loyalty does not necessarily imply that he backs the takeover attempt.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby Free » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 14:09:57

Well who would have seen THAT coming...

Any hydrocarbon ressources, offshore activity, shipping lanes in or around Thailand?
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby rwwff » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 14:57:20

The King is sorta considered neutral ground; by declaring loyalty to him, they are indicating to the population that they have no intention of holding power or creating a dictatorship of any sort. In other words, "relax, take a couple days off, we'll sort it all out tomorrow."

My sources indicate that this has much to do with some various shady business deals the PM pulled off in the telecom industry, apparently using his position to shield the sales of various assets to Singapore businesses from taxation. Lots of nationalistic grumpiness about the sales themselves, but I think the underlieing suscpicion is that it is an example of corruption of a magnitude that offends even the Thai.

IE, for us, no biggy. For the Thai in Bangkok, don't go driving today or your car might get mushed. Good day to make Kao Mu.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby TITAN » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 15:00:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', 'W')ell who would have seen THAT coming...

Any hydrocarbon ressources, offshore activity, shipping lanes in or around Thailand?



No oil, we don't have to worry about it...


Too bad it wouldn't be so easy to stage a coup in the u.s....
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby rwwff » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 15:12:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'T')oo bad it wouldn't be so easy to stage a coup in the u.s....


If you think a coup would get you a left wing government in the US; you are insane. They'd make Bush look like a kind, gentle socialist.

They might even say the word Crusade and mean it.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 16:47:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', '
')Any hydrocarbon ressources, offshore activity, shipping lanes in or around Thailand?
What about kratom? That's the entheogen you can get on the internet that has very pleasant effects. Comes from there. As for shipping lanes, you bet. 1/4 of the world's shipping of oil goes through the Strait of Malacca which lies athwart Thailand.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 17:12:51

I believe this will put a damper on Bangkok's new world-class airport from opening for another 6 months.
It is expected to have 60-80million passengers once opened.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby Free » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 18:53:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', '
')Any hydrocarbon ressources, offshore activity, shipping lanes in or around Thailand?
What about kratom? That's the entheogen you can get on the internet that has very pleasant effects. Comes from there. As for shipping lanes, you bet. 1/4 of the world's shipping of oil goes through the Strait of Malacca which lies athwart Thailand.


Yes thanks, I checked a map before and noticed the Strait of Malacca, seeming to remember that it was an important bottleneck for oil transports, but wow 1/4 really is a lot.

I am probably just too paranoid to automatically assume that foreign forces are behind this coup (China? USA?), on the other hand you never know, we will see to whom the new rulers will turn in case they achieve to establish. Does anyone know how the old government fits into the geopolitical picture?
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 19:28:24

I dont think this is malicious - the Thai people have been hating on the PM for years now. He has corruption charges in the telcos he has, which have made him one of the richest men in Thailand. And in 6 months everything will be back to normal.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 19:34:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', '
') Does anyone know how the old government fits into the geopolitical picture?
I know they had a death penalty for dealing in kratom, which comes from trees that grow there in swamps. The Thai folklore has it that don't let your daughter marry a boy who smokes marijuana, but kratom use is cool. My guess is that almost none of you even know what kratom is. I'm not sure why they have such a severe penalty for dealing in kratom. It isn't addictive and has been used historically to cure opium addiction. I know from experience that it produces amazing dream states.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby jaws » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 20:29:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'I') dont think this is malicious - the Thai people have been hating on the PM for years now. He has corruption charges in the telcos he has, which have made him one of the richest men in Thailand. And in 6 months everything will be back to normal.

Well, well, if he's so hated, why didn't they democracy him away?
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Tue 19 Sep 2006, 21:15:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jaws', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'I') dont think this is malicious - the Thai people have been hating on the PM for years now. He has corruption charges in the telcos he has, which have made him one of the richest men in Thailand. And in 6 months everything will be back to normal.

Well, well, if he's so hated, why didn't they democracy him away?


Oh they did, they had elections in March (?) but he still won. But peopel say he rigged the polls with his numerous connections and multi-billion dollar buisness.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby gwmss15 » Wed 20 Sep 2006, 10:23:42

well all this crap started back in september 2005 with the cancelling of a popular TV and taksin's crappy tax evasion deal with temasek group in singapore for a 49.9% stake in shin corp (taksins telco) after this weekly protests of up to 200000 people occured for 8 months then sham elections in which the major parties bocotted as they where not real elections. in may the april elections where annulled and new elections where arranges for october (now cancelled) then taksin increasing spent more time overseas US and UK between may and the coup. This coup has the backing of the thai king so its really a cleansing of the waters to allow new elections to be held in a few months time without any taksin or his croneys around they are arrestted or bannised from thailand.

This coup at 1st seemed like the begining of the end but it could be a step forward for thailand. the army will form a civilan govt with approval of the king in 2 to 3 weeks time. Taksin is infamous for direct vote buying in issan and north thailand where 50% of thais live and is of lower education and income standards than bangkok and the south.

NOTE: the thai king is neutral and is very repected and is never protraied in a bad light.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby jaws » Wed 20 Sep 2006, 12:47:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', '
')Oh they did, they had elections in March (?) but he still won. But peopel say he rigged the polls with his numerous connections and multi-billion dollar buisness.

So what the hell good will it do to have more elections?
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby midnight-gamer » Wed 20 Sep 2006, 18:13:14

Corruption is a everyday thing in Thailand. The Thai king is old and rumored to be in ill health. My wife says the kings son is thought to be a pretty bad guy. I worry about what will happen when the current king dies. If things get even more out of hand I would be unsuprised.
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Re: 'Coup' sparks Thailand emergency

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Wed 20 Sep 2006, 20:39:44

Thaskin and co. will probably be banished from Thailand and his beautiful 80-story skyscraper penthouse in prime Bangkok real-estate will probably be ransacked and looted with camera footage live on TV7... then people will believe that the elections will be clean and a new government will rise from the ashes.
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Thailand takes on pharmaceutical giants

Unread postby paimei01 » Thu 26 Apr 2007, 19:58:41

link$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')The Thai government's decision to break the patents on two Aids drugs and one heart drug, so it can offer them to all Thai citizens, is a bold move, which has put the country on a collision course with the big pharmaceutical firms.

This is what capitalism is, if it's not profitable it doesn't get made. And if it's profitable it gets made. No matter the consequences, money are the god of the system. Good thing for Thailand , they seem to realize that money do not cure diseases, humans do.
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Re: Thailand takes on pharmaceutical giants

Unread postby 128shot » Thu 26 Apr 2007, 20:46:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'h')ttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6587379.stm

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')The Thai government's decision to break the patents on two Aids drugs and one heart drug, so it can offer them to all Thai citizens, is a bold move, which has put the country on a collision course with the big pharmaceutical firms.



This is what capitalism is, if it's not profitable it doesn't get made. And if it's profitable it gets made. No matter the consequences, money are the god of the system.
Good thing for Thailand , they seem to realize that money do not cure diseases, humans do.


So what is going to stop them from breaking other patents?

Should nations be able to void all patents in the idea of "self interest" ?

Not sticking up for big Pharm, but lets analyze the possibilities here
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