by lateralus » Wed 28 Mar 2007, 19:12:08
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateralus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', ' ')Imagine how pissed off the youth of today is gonna feel. . .
I am so mad, imagine how I feel....
I don't care how you feel. Go make a baby if you can.
Sure. If you can ensure that you pay the child support ya old fart.
by privatetartanarmy » Wed 28 Mar 2007, 21:52:13
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', 'I')t is weird, it really is!
its also weird the way that the bbc is reporting the UK hostages. Like saying they were in Iraq waters and the GPS coordinates prove it.
They don't seem to mention (much) that the shatt al-arab waterway and the territory within has been an issue of dispute for years. Even a war was started over it, a long war.
But anyway, we drew the maps so what we say is true. tough.
The bbc are shaping up to be the proper loyal cheerleaders for any war against Iran. It will only be afterwards, when we ask ourselves where our objective media is, that we realize that the BBC has been entirely corrupted in the wake of the Gilligan affair. Viewers in the UK now have a choice of watching a government propaganda machine or a corporate propaganda machine when it comes to choosing which television news to watch. It's utterly despicable yet no-one seems to care as long as they have more celebrity nonsense to watch and the latest gadgets to watch them on.
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by threadbear » Wed 28 Mar 2007, 23:08:19
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('privatetartanarmy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', 'I')t is weird, it really is!
its also weird the way that the bbc is reporting the UK hostages. Like saying they were in Iraq waters and the GPS coordinates prove it.
They don't seem to mention (much) that the shatt al-arab waterway and the territory within has been an issue of dispute for years. Even a war was started over it, a long war.
But anyway, we drew the maps so what we say is true. tough.
The bbc are shaping up to be the proper loyal cheerleaders for any war against Iran. It will only be afterwards, when we ask ourselves where our objective media is, that we realize that the BBC has been entirely corrupted in the wake of the Gilligan affair. Viewers in the UK now have a choice of watching a government propaganda machine or a corporate propaganda machine when it comes to choosing which television news to watch. It's utterly despicable yet no-one seems to care as long as they have more celebrity nonsense to watch and the latest gadgets to watch them on.
I followed the Gilligan affair with growing horror at every hairpin turn. The greatest story never told. Of anything that has happened before or post war, nothing, including Aub Ghraib, made me angrier. The expression, "Who will tell the people" comes to mind, in the wake of the David Kelly assassination. Gilligan was correct all along; his work on the dodgy dossier completely vindicated, shortly after the Blair govt. tore apart the BBC, and routed out anyone with any credibility and conviction.
And now, the collective memory of the event has been lost in the mists of time. The British are suffering from a kind of govt imposed collective Alzheimers.
by privatetartanarmy » Thu 29 Mar 2007, 00:51:42
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('privatetartanarmy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', 'I')t is weird, it really is!
its also weird the way that the bbc is reporting the UK hostages. Like saying they were in Iraq waters and the GPS coordinates prove it.
They don't seem to mention (much) that the shatt al-arab waterway and the territory within has been an issue of dispute for years. Even a war was started over it, a long war.
But anyway, we drew the maps so what we say is true. tough.
The bbc are shaping up to be the proper loyal cheerleaders for any war against Iran. It will only be afterwards, when we ask ourselves where our objective media is, that we realize that the BBC has been entirely corrupted in the wake of the Gilligan affair. Viewers in the UK now have a choice of watching a government propaganda machine or a corporate propaganda machine when it comes to choosing which television news to watch. It's utterly despicable yet no-one seems to care as long as they have more celebrity nonsense to watch and the latest gadgets to watch them on.
I followed the Gilligan affair with growing horror at every hairpin turn. The greatest story never told. Of anything that has happened before or post war, nothing, including Aub Ghraib, made me angrier. The expression, "Who will tell the people" comes to mind, in the wake of the David Kelly assassination. Gilligan was correct all along; his work on the dodgy dossier completely vindicated, shortly after the Blair govt. tore apart the BBC, and routed out anyone with any credibility and conviction.
And now, the collective memory of the event has been lost in the mists of time. The British are suffering from a kind of govt imposed collective Alzheimers.
The British are, in my view, more than happy to pretend that all this isn't happening. We have been turned into a nation of cash hungry, status obsessed automatons who would kill their granny if we thought it would add a few £000 to the value of our houses so what does it matter to most if countless innocent civilians are bombed? I've even read many comments on the bbc's "have your say" section calling for the use of nuclear weapons to bomb our sailors free. The only things that get most Brits up in arms are high taxes, high fuel prices and negative equity. Woe betides Blair if any invasion of Iran has the expected effects on oil prices. A braying mob will lynch him in parliament square demanding "low taxation without representation!", "make oil not war!" and "for queen and positive equity!"
That said, i can see why we have become like that. We have been subjected , like our American co-conspirators, to an unending barrage of propaganda from the military-industrial-political complex since the start of the cold war. Successive generations of Britons has grown up and have been cheated out of their democratic right to participate in the political debate and then make our own minds up, without even being aware of the manipulation we have been subjected to from secret service disinformation, think tank ideological propaganda, the vested interests of the lobbies and from the rewriting of Britain's history itself (there is never much mention that Britain was an Imperial dictator before, during and after both world wars). The political left and right had conspired to subvert our freedoms to win an ideological war against the USSR that we lost by the very act of subverting the democracy that we were meant to be fighting to save.
It's even worse now. We are succored by technology yet it hasn't liberated us. We are swamped with choice, as long as you can afford it. We are offered no political alternative, now that the 3 main political parties all occupy the center right. We have been weighed, measured, analyzed and deconstructed by science for the benefit of the corporations and the military. Everything around us is contrived and yet as soon as our leaders start to wave the flag and beat the drums the entire nation suddenly become armchair generals.
What an illusion the UK lives in. We are being led by an unelected dark cabal that exists around Blair
http://www.guardian.co.uk/hutton/story/ ... 46,00.html
cynicalheretic:
"The British and the United States are cut from the same cloth"
Sadly that is too true. I think the US learned too well from the Imperial masters in the UK before we both picked up a thing or 2 from Hitler and Stalin. Now, between us we represent 300 years of the nastiest and most foul methods ever devised to manipulate and control populations. We really are free to do what our masters tell us and free to choose the burger of our choice.
I think i'm getting very grumpy after i watched this before posting
http://www.oneplanetonenation.com/fascism.html
(edited spelling)
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"I met this cowboy with a brown paper hat, paper waistcoat and paper trousers. He was wanted for rustling."----chic murray
by VinceG » Thu 29 Mar 2007, 12:04:50
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')ars were fought over fertilizer.
Uuuhm....forgive me my ignorance and lack of historical knowledge, but which devastating, apocalyptical war was it again that was...uuhm... fought over....fertilizer?
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