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The Dark Side?

Yes! I choose the Dark Side!
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No! I'll remain a weak, pathetic servant of the light.
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Jack, you sociopath. You gave me WAY too much information!
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Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Fri 23 Mar 2007, 23:27:21

Due to overwhelming demand (well, one person, actually, but who's counting?) I have decided to offer a few observations on how you can join the Dark Side.

Enjoy!

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Jack’s “Join the Dark Side” thread – or, Evil for Fun and Profit.

Have you always cheered the so-called bad people? Do you get a thrill when you see Darth Vader stride onto the screen in Star Wars? Have gunslingers in black hats seemed better than sniveling idiots wearing white hats? Does Ebenezer Scrooge seem more appealing before he weakens, and starts helping that miserable Cratchit? If so, then you may be destined to join us – the followers of the Dark Side!

The first thing to realize is that “good”, however defined, is a quality often admired but rarely practiced. Most often, it is a term used by the weak and inferior to manipulate and control the strong. You must break these chains and throw off the false shackles. Do not be a slave to the inferior. You are meant to rule them, to control them. How dare they apply their pathetic judgments to a follower of the Dark Way! So when they attempt to use their base tactics upon them, laugh. Scorn them, and their standards. Reclaim your freedom as the first step upon the path.

Next, you must make yourself hard and cold as steel. The manipulation spoken of in the first step is widely practiced, and not with words alone. The television screen presents images that ensnare the mind and spirit. You will see images, most often of children or infants, but also of adults, existing in some dire circumstance or other. Once again, others seek to enslave you, to rob you. To dispel their false standards, recognize that the discomfort or death of others does not affect you in the slightest. It is good to ignore them, better to sneer at them – and best of all, to ridicule and mock them. When next you see a starving child on the screen, regard the event as an opportunity to harden your heart and mind. It has been said that one becomes what one thinks; you will know you have succeeded when you cannot feel compassion. Be glad when the taint has been expunged!

Another attribute you must develop is deceit. Learn to smile, and nod, and give a soft answer as you mislead and deceive. It is best to develop the ability to lead an innocent person (or persons) to destruction and ruin, most especially when they have done nothing to earn your enmity. Their pain is reward enough; seeking material gain can detract from the pure darkness of the act itself. If you can pass this small test, you will have no trouble working for the destruction of those who might have earned your wrath.

Do you doubt the power of the Dark Side? Observe the propaganda, constantly proclaiming the falsehood that evil loses to good. They fear us – they fear YOU – else they would not spend so much time, effort, and money spreading such transparent lies. Good often loses to evil, though we of the Dark Side learned long ago to cloak ourselves. Consider those who wrap themselves in a cloak of light; look carefully, and you will see the darkness entwined about them. If they say they follow the other side, they lie. If they believe it, they simply deceive themselves.

The final chain, which you must break to be truly free, is the fear of divine judgment and damnation. Religions of every sort tend to assign the “good” to Heaven and the “evil” to Hell. Yet, the celebrated heroes of the various religions often use tactics that would make the most “evil” blush! Thus, it is evil to kill – unless one is killing heretics, or infidels, or this group, or that. Was it not Milton, in Paradise Lost, that wrote, “The mind is its own place, and in it self can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n? If you are not yet a brother (or sister) of the Dark Side, you may well recoil at this thought. Perhaps, from an early age, you were taught to subscribe to some set of beliefs of what was right and wrong, what was good and what was evil. But you are not truly free so long as you permit these thoughts to limit you. Ultimately, you must decide; not everyone has the strength to look out into the universe and proclaim themselves a follower of the Dark Side. Yet, if you seek freedom and power – this you must do.

And what, you ask, will you gain? The greatest treasure of all. You will regain control of your own soul. Above all, you will know the freedom, the power, that only those of the Dark Side experience.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby kochevnik » Fri 23 Mar 2007, 23:57:20

:!:

Sounds like a training program for future CEO's.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 00:23:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '
')Next, you must make yourself hard and cold as steel.


So, what if you like playing with puppies? Can I be Dark Side material ?

In any case, what are the women like on the Dark Side ?
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 01:10:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', ':')!:

Sounds like a training program for future CEO's.


Of course. A popular Dark Side saying is: "It's just business. Nothing personal."

Now you know the real reason companies are run as they are.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby NEOPO » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 01:13:56

Just imagine what he would think to say if Star Wars was never created :)

Lord of the rings?
Look into the eye of sarun!!!
My precious...

Dark side pffft!
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 01:18:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '
')Next, you must make yourself hard and cold as steel.


So, what if you like playing with puppies? Can I be Dark Side material ?


It's possible. Just teach the puppy to be an attack dog. Or, at the very least, to growl at strangers.

If your puppy lacks Dark Side potential, you can always encourage him (or her) to get muddy paws and jump on strangers. Just smile and tell them how your dog doesn't usually take to people so well. Then tell them they must be a really good person.

Not only do you practice the worthwhile quality of deception, you also get to annoy someone else.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '
')In any case, what are the women like on the Dark Side ?


Generally, drop-dead gorgeous. Just remember, don't show weakness around them. The female is always the deadlier member of any species.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 01:22:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '
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Dark side pffft!
My kittens are meaner then this man! :-D


Tut, tut. Such flaming is totally unnecessary. :lol:
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby undertaker » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 01:31:59

People who really believe that they are so very good, and I am so very bad have always disappointed me. Such transparent hypocrites! Even if they think they are being "darker" than me, they aren't, and I'd cut them to pieces if it was worth it. They are like Charlie Brown hiding behind the sapling, and his head is sticking out from both sides.

But I think such types, that is, leftists and liberals, really believe their own lies. They really think they are the noble Jedi, and someone like me is a Sith. So I don't let on that I'm a Sith. I just wait for the moment, if it comes, that it's worth it to cut them to pieces. Maybe it never comes.

There's no fairness or justice in the world. There is quality of breed though. If the world is full of shit-breeds of humans, then the world will be shit. If the world is full of noble breeds, then the world will be clean, orderly, and relatively prosperous. Of course this is an "evil" fact.

The thing about CEO's is that they are happy to turn the world to shit for their short term profit. I don't like that. I want a world of high breed humans. Maybe I and those like me will succeed, maybe we won't. But I'll take a fucking horrible bloody revenge as a consolation prize thank you.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby seahorse » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 01:35:35

This topic violates the COC and should be eliminated.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 01:42:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'T')his topic violates the COC and should be eliminated.


How so?
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 01:42:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'S')o, what if you like playing with puppies? Can I be Dark Side material ?


Sure. As long as you taunt them mercilessly and teach them to ruthlessly kill other animals.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n any case, what are the women like on the Dark Side ?


You really have to ask a question like that?

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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Chaparral » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 05:20:23

I voted "other". Who knows. i may be good. I may be evil. I may be a sheep in wolf's clothing or a wolf in sheep's clothing. Variability might be my name. Unpredictability might be my game. I may be a variable that seeks the company of constants just as an evil man may seek the company of the good or I may be a constant that is forced by circumstance to live among variables, just as a good man may live among the wicked. I may be a cloud that offers no resistance to your passage or I may be a stone upon which you may rest your foot. I may be a cloud that turns to stone when it's too late for you to stop or I may be stone that turns into a cloud as soon as you depend on me to support your foot. I may be gentle as a lamb, but as wise as a wolf.....or maybe not. I may be an angler fish and that light you see may just be the tip of my tongue. I may be a shark that telegraphs my function by my form or I may be a sculpin that lies invisible on the bottom, waiting for you to get close to me as you should to all your enemies. Inscrutability is after all, one of the keys to power :cool:
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Ayame » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 06:32:24

I fell to the dark side long ago, now I model myself on Darth Nihilus though I haven't mastered the whole consuming of worlds (for my insatible appetite for power) thing yet, but it's not for lack of trying.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby katkinkate » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 07:32:01

Just call me Darth Katika
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby seahorse » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 09:50:47

Deceit is a crime. Advocating deceit is advocating a crime which COC prohibits. Further, the views espoused are no different than views espoused by any hate group - which is also prohibited. Doesn't matter how you try to package and sell it. Posts like these does nothing but detract from this site.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby NEOPO » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 10:21:50

Yikes someone is taking this thread seriously and I didnt want to go there but perhaps it was meant to be.

"there are many here amung us who feel that life is but a joke, but you and I we've been through that and this is not our fate, so let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late" R. Zimmerman

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give of my wisdom,
give of my knowledge,
give of my power.
Freely I give to the children of men.
Give that they, too, might have wisdom
to shine through the world from the veil of the night.


Wisdom is power and power is wisdom,
one with each other, perfecting the whole.


Be thou not proud, O man, in thy wisdom.
Discourse with the ignorant as well as the wise.
If one comes to thee full of knowledge,
listen and heed, for wisdom is all.


Keep thou not silent when evil is spoken for Truth
like the sunlight shines above all.
He who over-steppeth the Law shall be punished,
for only through Law comes the freedom of men.
Cause thou not fear for fear is a bondage,
a fetter that binds the darkness to men.


Follow thine heart during thy lifetime.
Do thou more than is commanded of thee.
When thou hast gained riches,
follow thou thine heart,
for all these are of no avail if
thine heart be weary.
Diminish thou not the time of
following thine heart.
It is abhorred of the soul.


They that are guided go not astray,
but they that are lost cannot find a straight path.
If thou go among men, make for thyself,
Love, the beginning and end of the heart.


As I cut and pasted this the dark champion drove his blazing chariot across my grey sky to remind me of his dark reality.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 10:24:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'D')eceit is a crime. Advocating deceit is advocating a crime which COC prohibits.


No, seahorse, deceit is not a crime - and you know that better than I do. It may be an element of a crime - for example, in the case of perjury, deceit under oath is a crime. Or, in the case of fraud, deceit and money are the required elements.

But deceit? No. Not a crime.

Unless you would make it a crime to tell a friend that the meal they prepared for you was fine, when it really wasn't?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', '
')Further, the views espoused are no different than views espoused by any hate group - which is also prohibited. Doesn't matter how you try to package and sell it. Posts like these does nothing but detract from this site.


Again, no. Per discussions of the implications of the COC, even those views espoused by hate groups are not, per se, prohibited. So, I could write: I hate purple Venusians. I could also write I hate (fill in the name of some ethnic group here). I'm not going to do so because I don't want this thread to go in that direction.

What is prohibited is advocating violence against some group. Thus, saying "They ought to kill all the (fill in name of group here)", would be a violation.

You will notice that I did not specify any particular group to abuse, nor did I advocate any sort of illicit act against such a group.

It's good that you bring up these points because, frankly, the details of the COC sometimes need reinforcing. Thank you.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 10:31:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', 'I') fell to the dark side long ago, now I model myself on Darth Nihilus though I haven't mastered the whole consuming of worlds (for my insatible appetite for power) thing yet, but it's not for lack of trying.



Darth Nihilus' views have found fertile. What better victory for us than to turn the proclaimed followers of light, who promise us limitless ethanol, into destroyers of an entire planet - as they are doing even now.

Welcome ot the Dark Side, Darth Ayame!
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby seahorse » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 11:21:46

Unfortunately Neopo, you say you didn't take this thread seriously, however, even having said that, Jack doesn't say it was in jest, bc its not.

Despite all the nuts that are attracted by this kind of talk, One does not gain strength in another's pain as Jack suggests, one only gains strength, be it strength of character, body and spirit, by overcoming one's own pain, not relishing the pain of another. Empathy is not a weakness, nor does it mean others are trying to "control" you. "The dark side" is called the dark side for a reason, it is a lonely world with no friends, no hope, no one to trust, no one to love, where others relish in your pain and don't rejoice in your happiness.

Jack, I do know better than you, and deceit is a crime. There
are different elements to prove deceit, but there are any numerous crimes and torts of deceit and advocating a crime is prohibited by the COC. And the COC further states:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')e reserve the right to remove any post that we consider disruptive or inappropriate, even if that post is not specifically forbidden by our published rules.


There has been much discussion about how the above applies to topics like hate groups, but how can one interpret "the dark side" from any other hate group think? For example, you clearly advocate deceit:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t is best to develop the ability to lead an innocent person (or persons) to destruction and ruin, most especially when they have done nothing to earn your enmity. Their pain is reward enough; seeking material gain can detract from the pure darkness of the act itself.


Further, take this statement right out of the Nazi play book:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he discomfort or death of others does not affect you in the slightest. It is good to ignore them, better to sneer at them – and best of all, to ridicule and mock them. When next you see a starving child on the screen, regard the event as an opportunity to harden your heart and mind. It has been said that one becomes what one thinks; you will know you have succeeded when you cannot feel compassion.


So, its no big deal that the Nazis beat children to death with bats? Get your b.s. out of here. Jack, you will make a good concentration camp guard, but remember, in so doing, you are being led, you are being controlled; but now, you are controlled by your own pain and desire as you twist in the lonely cold dark world where you live, in the vast, nooks and crannies of your own mind. Misery loves company, and you desire PO only because you believe it will release the dark of your own Gollumess mind out into the world where you live, but in so being released, you will not find freedom, only control by those same people you so despise, who will hate you just as much as you hate them, who will relish in your own pain just as much as you relish in theirs. This is not freedom. Freedom begins in the mind not by rejoicing in pain, but by letting into that dark world of the mind the light of empathy, love and happiness that only others can give.

You don't represent a side of anything, bc there is no one standing at your side you can trust, not without loyalty, honor, love, compassion, not without thinking of anything beyond your own pain. Happiness is the absence of desire, and until you put aside desire, you will never find happiness in anything, no even someone else's pain.

Under the COC, this is inappropriate and disruptive, it contibutes nothing to the PO debate.

If you agree that the COC applies to your conduct here, then I applaud your recognition that rules apply for the common good and that they apply to you. In fact, it only shows that you play lip service to the dark side, that rules and common morality prevail over these twisted cool-aid drinking views.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 12:09:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'D')eceit is a crime. Advocating deceit is advocating a crime which COC prohibits.


Seahorse, take a pill man. Under very very limited circumstances deceit may be a crime. Perjury, fraud, etc. Most of the time it is outside the domain of the legal system. "Whose lipstick is this on your collar?" "That's not lipstick, it's filling from my jelly donut."

You have been on this board long enough to recognize when you need to take Jack with a grain of salt.
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