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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby dukey » Fri 16 Mar 2007, 08:04:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')B. Cyanide also cures cancer. Single 0.5g dose of potassium cyanide with a glass of water will kill all cancer cells in anyone's body. Few days after the treatment all cancer cells will go droll dead. The same holds true for 1g of arsenic oxide or sulphuric acid bath.

If you do that you will poison your whole body, the healthy cells too. In b-17, the benzene and cyanide get released at the site of the cancer cells.
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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby Newsseeker » Fri 16 Mar 2007, 08:57:29

Don't forget garlic!
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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 16 Mar 2007, 09:43:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'B')esides vitamin B17, fruits are also alkaline. "An apple a day keeps the doctor away".

Apples are acidic fruits and overwhelming majority of fruits are also acidic (acidic means pH<7). In fact, I had never heard about alkaline fruit, but there might be few peculiar exceptions.
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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby paimei01 » Fri 16 Mar 2007, 11:22:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ote that a food's acid or alkaline-forming tendency in the body has nothing to do with the actual pH of the food itself. For example, lemons are very acidic, however the end-products they produce after digestion and assimilation are very alkaline so lemons are alkaline-forming in the body. Likewise, meat will test alkaline before digestion but it leaves acidic residue in the body so, like nearly all animal products, meat is classified as acid-forming.

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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby Kingcoal » Fri 16 Mar 2007, 11:53:40

I'm an Engineer who worked for a medical device company for a spell. From what I saw, the medical profession is 100% driven by profit, top to bottom. There is NO and I mean NO interest in anything that is not patentable. In fact, the greed for profit extends to debunking harmless "quack" cures. Apricot seeds are relatively cheap and harmless. You can kill yourself with fruit seeds, but it would take a huge amount. You can also kill yourself with oxygen, but I don’t see anyone giving up breathing. For a person dying of cancer (and someone I love very much is) what do they have to lose?

If you are dying of cancer, it's a big thing to you; in fact it's probably the most important thing in your life and a very big part of the lives of the people who love you. Anything and I mean anything that won't hurt you, but might help, should be investigated. It's just common sense.
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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby dukey » Fri 16 Mar 2007, 12:27:07

you can kill yourself drinking too much water. Just gotta be sensible.
It's a sad state of affairs when our doctors are nothing more than drug dispensers
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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby lateralus » Fri 16 Mar 2007, 16:11:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'F')rom what I saw, the medical profession is 100% driven by profit, top to bottom. There is NO and I mean NO interest in anything that is not patentable.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'I')t's a sad state of affairs when our doctors are nothing more than drug dispensers

So true. I'm pretty much sick and tired of the pharmaceutical industry in general. They really are one of the worst examples of greed in a field that should be more interested in promoting the health of people. Hang them from lamp posts.
You're so right dukey doctors are little more than crack dealers hanging out in offices instead of street corners. Sad state of affairs indeed.
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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby Falconoffury » Sat 17 Mar 2007, 00:10:31

I think the whole health care industry needs to be dismantled and restructured, just like the Federal Reserve.
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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby davep » Sat 17 Mar 2007, 11:07:31

It appears the best way of avoiding and defeating cancer is to follow something like the Atkins diet. The high fat, low sugar diet ensures that glycolysis (the process used by cancers outside of the mitochondria) is bypassed, and the ketone bodies are directly used in the mitochondria. The following study was for brain cancer:

link Of course, they used KetoCal®, because there would be little point in doing the study if there wasn't something they could peddle. The original New Scientist link also uses something to bypass glycolysis, but it would appear that avoiding refined food is the answer to avoiding cancer.

The New Scientist article said that DCA (the drug they are using to bypass glycolysis) impacts lung, breast and brain cancers, so it can be assumed that the ketone approach will do the same (it was only tested on brain tumours). This is good news.

It would appear that a calorie reduced high fat diet is the way to go initially if you get diagnosed, completely cutting out on saccharides. This would ensure that all the glycogen is removed rapidly and the ketone bodies can start being metabolised.
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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby davep » Sat 17 Mar 2007, 21:03:28

The New Scientist study concludes "the findings challenge the current assumption that mutations, not metabolism, spark off cancers. “The question is: which comes first?” he says."

If you take both studies together (the New Scientist one and the one I linked to above), it appears that diet may be the cause. If we maintain blood glucose levels at a high level constantly (which our modern diet of refined sugars does), we are creating an environment where cancerous cells can get a foothold and then thrive (they need prodigious amounts of glucose). By allowing glucose levels to drop and letting ketones do their work naturally (i.e with a Atkins/Montignac/South Beach low carb type diet), we are ensuring that cancer can't get a hold in the first place.

This also seems to explain why cancers have become so prevalent in western society.

The study I linked to above uses KetoCal®, deliving "7.2 Kcal/g gross energy where fat, carbohydrate, protein, and fiber comprised 720 g, 30 g, 150 g, and 0 g/Kg". So basically any short term treatment can be high in fats with very little carbohydrate to have the same effect.

If you know somebody dying of cancer, I recommend you show these reports to your specialist at once (both at the same time). If they are in hospital, get them off the glucose drip immediately and try to get the doctor to administer a low calorie fat-based diet. The diet won't kill them, but it may just save their life.
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Re: Vitamin B17 cures cancer

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 20 Mar 2007, 15:07:53

By the way any of you ate apricot seeds at all? There are two types I've had. First is very bitter and absolutly disgusting. Second, which comes from special , big apricots, is very tasty, its just as almonds, a bit different though, but surely a good eat. So what, if its not bitter its no good?
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Vitamin D casts cancer prevention in new light

Unread postby Graeme » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 02:55:25

Vitamin D casts cancer prevention in new light

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')or decades, researchers have puzzled over why rich northern countries have cancer rates many times higher than those in developing countries — and many have laid the blame on dangerous pollutants spewed out by industry.

But research into vitamin D is suggesting both a plausible answer to this medical puzzle and a heretical notion: that cancers and other disorders in rich countries aren't caused mainly by pollutants but by a vitamin deficiency known to be less acute or even non-existent in poor nations.

Only brief full-body exposures to bright summer sunshine — of 10 or 15 minutes a day — are needed to make high amounts of the vitamin. But most authorities, including Health Canada, have urged a total avoidance of strong sunlight or, alternatively, heavy use of sunscreen. Both recommendations will block almost all vitamin D synthesis.

In the body, vitamin D is converted into a steroid hormone, and genes responding to it play a crucial role in fixing damaged cells and maintaining good cell health. "There is no better anti-cancer agent than activated vitamin D. I mean, it does everything you'd want," said Dr. Cannell of the Vitamin D Council.


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Re: Vitamin D casts cancer prevention in new light

Unread postby dukey » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 06:12:43

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Re: Vitamin D casts cancer prevention in new light

Unread postby Newsseeker » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 08:34:11

Interesting. I will have to add this to my knowledge of cancer.
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Re: Vitamin D casts cancer prevention in new light

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 09:40:37

Wow. For once I sort of agree with Raphael. Western photophobia is, IMHO, not a good thing. (Neither, BTW, is hinding indoors all year so you are nice and pasty white and then running off to Jamaica for 2 weeks and burning yourself to a crisp.) The link between melanoma and UV exposure is far from established. Sun exposure is linked pretty solidly to basal cell and squamous cell skin cancers, but those two are easily treatable. Melanoma is the scary and sometimes fatal skin cancer. The link between UV and melanoma is poorly understood.
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Re: Vitamin D casts cancer prevention in new light

Unread postby jupiters_release » Mon 30 Apr 2007, 13:44:52

Last summer was the first time I started sunbathing regularly, got hooked on it from all the strong health benefits. Everyone should avoid conventional sunblock, like all other industrial products, are very toxic. The only one I use is Aubrey's Organics.

Here's a good link:

http://www.mercola.com/forms/aubrey_sunblock.htm
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Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs

Unread postby dukey » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 19:46:09

[flash width=400 height=326]http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-5266884912495233634&hl=en[/flash]
this is just fucking rediculous

edit, excuse my profanity but FFS this shit is scary. I've got a lump in my stomach watching this. This is a must watch ... repeat a must watch.
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Re: Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs

Unread postby dukey » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 20:14:54

what she is talking about if you thought banning vitamins was bad .. wait till she starts talking about the pesticide levels they will allow in food. And how they expect 3 billion of us will die .... then another 2 billion will die from preventable diseases.. This is seriously sick. im only about half way through this atm.
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Re: Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 20:27:35

Mod's please merge this thread with A good reason to HATE the UN / WHO...CODEX.
and Codex Alimentarius
I suggest sticking with my aptly titled post yet sensationalism is very effective. Thanks!
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