by max_power29 » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 02:43:26
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', '.')..Citizens with guns can make a living providing protection...
They do that now. They're called "police officers", "soldiers", and "security guards".
They don't have a "duty" to protect anybody but their own interests. they are the biggest gang there is. they come down hard on people who would provide real protection for themselves or others.
It has been reinforced in the supreme court already that police have no duty to protect or serve
anyone
In the future dialling 911 will be about as effective as praying. In a lot of already collapsed places in the U.S it already is.
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by max_power29 » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 02:47:54
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How do you figure illegals are "Just more bodies on the welfare tit"? We're not subsidizing this, unless you figure the companies utilizing illegal labor are passing the savings on to us. If they were legit they'd get taxed so the military can buy more Humvee armor har har har.
Or are illegals fond of utilizing Medicaid? Don't know how you could get aboard a government subsidy program without a valid SS#.
In oregon, The state GOVERNMENT actually holds welfare fairs, where ONLY illegal mexicans can get in. american citizens are not allowed. At these fairs they hook up the mexicans with every welfare benefit that exists. this is in oregon i dont know about other states though.
Also mexicans need not sign up for anything to get free health care, just show up at the hospital and everyone else gets to pay for it. same with schools, and othe public infrastructure.
in Oregon If a citizen gets caught driving without a license, current registration, or insurance. He or she will get arrested and their vehicle seized. mexicans are let off the hook even if they cause accidents. It is illegal for a police officer to even think about determining if a suspect is an illegal alien or harrassing them with such duties as enFORCEing the law.
Oregon is indeed very welcoming.
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by TheDude » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 03:25:23
Congress sets new driver's license rules
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he new standards usurp states’ traditional role in setting criteria for driver’s licenses and aim to outlaw licenses for illegal immigrants. For the first time, a uniform nationwide policy will require at least four forms of identification to obtain a driver’s license, and states will develop and link databases containing drivers’ identities. States must comply in three years or their driver’s licenses no longer will be accepted as valid ID by federal agencies.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he measure could nullify policy in 10 states where illegal immigrants now are able to obtain driver’s licenses; all license applicants will have to prove they are lawfully present in the United States. Hawaii, Illinois, Michigan, Montana, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Utah, Washington and Wisconsin currently do not require applicants to show they are lawfully present in the United States, in effect granting licenses to illegal immigrants.
This John Taft guy writes about
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')s your vote at risk to an illegal alien from another country? In Oregon an illegal alien can get a driver’s license as he can in many other states. I called the Josephine County elections office and asked if I could use a driver’s license to register to vote. The lady said, “Yes.” I then asked if that was the only identification I would need. Again the answer was, “Yes.”
Stiffer driver's license rules would nullify that, eventually of course. I also read about DMV databases full of illegals already, how do you purge those barbarians? Their number will be up when they have to renew, one hopes.
ACLU doesn't like it, natch. "Nightmare, lines around the block." A Congressperson pointed out that long lines might be better than another 9/11.
Renewed my license last week and it took about 1/10th as long as it has in the past. Picked the right time to come in I guess.
by TheDude » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 16:25:24
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('max_power29', 'L')ike I said before, in oregon, mexicans do not even NEED drivers licenses. It is AGAINST THE LAW for cops to prosecute them. they could lose their jobs and/or get prosecuted themselves for doing it.
But they will need a driver's license to register to vote - well, at least in Josephine County, according to the story I linked to. Suggesting that if they can't vote for these liberal canidates said canidates won't be re-elected, leading to tougher laws against them. Man, sounds like we're going to be greeted as liberators!
Oregon is one messed up place, high ideals and little money to spend them on.
To bring up the Roman parallel again, same reason led to inducting barbarians into the army - erosion of economic base meant inability to pay regular army, meaning utilization of outsiders in war. Hell, the direct parallel of that is taking place now with our own army accepting illegal aliens and felons.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')regon is indeed very welcoming.
Former Govenor Tom McCall: "Welcome to Oregon. Visit, but don't stay."
"Recepcion a Oregon. La visita, pero no permanece."
Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi
And let me tell you something: I dig your work.
by holmes » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 17:32:21
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', '.')..Citizens with guns can make a living providing protection...
They do that now. They're called "police officers", "soldiers", and "security guards".
Also "Posses," "militias," "lynch mobs," "National Guard."
How do you figure illegals are "Just more bodies on the welfare tit"? We're not subsidizing this, unless you figure the companies utilizing illegal labor are passing the savings on to us. If they were legit they'd get taxed so the military can buy more Humvee armor har har har.
Or are illegals fond of utilizing Medicaid? Don't know how you could get aboard a government subsidy program without a valid SS#.
Correct me if I'm way off the mark here.
Agreed that if/when the economy tanks no one will have good reason/means to get here anyway, in which case us palefaces will get along with 'em just like the perfect harmony you find down south in the USA. Shudder...
Ward-Perkins starts out his book by saying he doesn't really like the Romans personally. Upper lips too stiff even for him. Or it's the vomiting and hundreds of miles of crucified slaves etc. But they could engineer like no one's business.
Archimedes was slain by a common soldier, right? Probably he had his turn when his superiors found out he offed the man who devised those cranes that were picking the Roman galleys out of the water. Certainly that's science they could appreciate.
Ward-Perkins doesn't deny that the "barbarians" were capable of very fine work, listing the contents of a king's grave that are very impressive work in precious metals and jewels. His point is that this sort of thing was now only available to the upper crust - which includes items such as quality tableware, which under the Romans was available to all. Or tile roofs on mortar/brick houses, which were common in the Empire but afterwards were rare, mostly replaced by wood structures with thatch roofs, which can be built very fine but have definite drawbacks - flammibility, susceptibility to infestation, need for the thatch to be replaced every 30 years, etc. A degradation of technology, rather than an assement of values/morals/culture.
Please put the xenophobe stuff away. Doesnt fly with me or what is actually happening. The white racists are just using the issue for their loony BS. They are a pathetic minority in the USA. The brown racist however are not. In fact This morning had two la raza type women this morning screaming in spanish at the coffee shop. Then Started in english about how we have no choice in their redistribution of wealth plan. theya re aggressive and in your face these people.
Also youa re off base they recieve 5 different forms of welfare, credit cards with no SSN, automobiles, etc...
ALL free. They also get unemployemnt with no questions asked. However my good friend worked for 25 years and then got laid off and they are putting him through the ringer. If your white forget about any help ever. its Orwells world now. Deep in the orwell world.
Beaverton? pffft. Over here wed eat you alive with the illegal activity. The prison out here is so loaded with illegal felons its comical. thes weirdos still scream for more public school fundings and more prisons. What a ponzi scheme racket we got in thsi country. You have to see the brutal primitives that are showing up in town. all I cans ay is lock and load and teach your child to fight like a crazed wombat.
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by max_power29 » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 19:18:55
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grabby', 'T')he below is a fictitious rendering of real events.
A story I heard from a clinic nurse tells of a family who came to the clinic because the child had a fever. How high? don't know. Felt warm. Did you give tylenol? no, don't have any. Family smokes. Drives pickup. No one can read english.
Not even the driver ofd the pickup.
other children all checked in. Why? Make sure they aren't sick.
Law says you have to examine them.
If the doctor or nurse refuses to see them, hippa law says you will get fined 50,000 dollars for each infraction in this case 200,000 dollars.
And Insurance won't pay hippa fines, It is a civil fine not covered by malpractice.
Doctor scared to say anything, no fine wanted here.
Doctor gets fine and slinic gets fine too.
Better treat, no questions asked.
Mom copies medical coupons. Clinic will use moms coupon to charge all visits.
everyone checks out ok even the little kid who is teething.
before mom goes asks for a prescription for tylenol so she doesnt have to buy it.
Thats why she really came.
4 kids, 800 dollars payed by Department social services your taxes.
clinic doesnt complain, they make money.
Mom will come back when she runs out of tylenol.
not as bad as the mother who called the ambulance because here huusband works in the field to have her daughter checked, no ride.
normal exam she wanted scription for tylenol.
It is illegal to charge them even an up front fee even if they want to pay.
none are amrican citizens.
the clinic sees 80% mexicans...
We can't afford health insurance.
By the way, all these major laws that caused this was brought in under Clintons shift.
While this was happening, the baby music plays another birth. 3 new american citizens born today. Allparents are illegal aliens.
Can't deport the parents now that the baby is an american citizen right?
Social services directory immediately called so the child can get WIC milk and food and health care card (Or the clinic wont get paid) All papers signed, in 24 hours the kid leaves with better medical coverage than I have and the mothers monthly stipend is already increased to more than what I would get if I retired.
The local welfare office hires only spanish speaking corkers and they all live in tow. A new homeless family arrives into town and felt out of place in the spanish filled office, they are rusky. They are told there is no benefits for them at this time check back next month.
Another mother is signing up, she is asked if she has a house or income. Mom hesitates. worker says not to worry their policy is never to investigate or arrest anyone for lying. Spanish mother smiles and says she has no job. she gets signed up. On the way out the door they are handed a spanish paper at the bottom it has "If you are not satisfied you are free to file a lawsuit" and it has number of lawyers to contact if you want to sue DHS. Those lawyers wouldn't mind at all, more work.
this is not a fiction book. it happens daily.
Whats wrong with this picture?
We caused this problem ourself, we will need a LOT more oil to keep living like this.
no kidding.
This is a very precise and accurate description of the current modern "invasion". the barbarians will get a lot nastier (you think we have a problem with with illegal alien felons now!?) the barbarians will become more clasically barbarianish once the handouts stop (once the handouts are actually no longer physically possible)
Like Holmes said make sure your kids learn to fight like hell and be locked and loaded on this day.
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