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Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil
Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil
by jdmartin » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 14:14:43
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', 'I') think its fun to talk about peak oil crisis and hear what people have to say about it. I just happen to be one of those who correctly understand it to be a psychology and not a real science.
Your arguments are ridiculous and not positioned in reality, and are so circular in nature that rational people cannot reason with you. I agree that there are some hard-core doomsayers on here (I for one do not believe the world's coming to a screeching halt later this year), but the science in oil extraction, technology et al is not debatable unless you have absolutely no qualifications to speak about it. And I'd say that fits just about right in this case.
Mostly, I'd say it looks like you're here just to stir up trouble.
After fueling up their cars, Twyman says they bowed their heads and asked God for cheaper gas.There was no immediate answer, but he says other motorists joined in and the service station owner didn't run them off.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil
by jdmartin » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 14:32:00
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', 'I') was merely pointing out that a single oil field has a finite amount of oil and once you tap it, the cost for extracting the oil does not change much as the oil gets pumped out. does that make sense? There may be a large cost in setting up all the drilling equipment, but once the oil starts pumping, then it continues to pump. i'm not sure why this concept is so hard to understand. and this concept is what the hubbert curve is based on, you just add in the fact that it works its way down to a trickle as it starts to run out. maybe i could draw a picture for you.
This quote alone shows the lack of understanding you have about the geology of oil.
In simplistic terms: When you first tap a field, it costs next to nothing to get the oil out. Much of it is flowing out under its own pressure. In the early days this was how people even knew where to look - oil simply ran out onto the ground.
As the field becomes extracted, or doesn't flow into the cut you've made, you need additional measures to get that oil out. That means drilling additional wells, pumping gases or water into the ground to create pressure, etc. This costs more money. Eventually, you are spending a lot of money to get out a little bit of oil, and you give up. The field might still have oil in it, but it's become too expensive to get it out. Can you get it out later when (if) technology is invented to get it more economically? Sure, but not as cheap as when you first started.
After fueling up their cars, Twyman says they bowed their heads and asked God for cheaper gas.There was no immediate answer, but he says other motorists joined in and the service station owner didn't run them off.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil
by clueless » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 14:39:29
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his quote alone shows the lack of understanding you have about the geology of oil.
In simplistic terms: When you first tap a field, it costs next to nothing to get the oil out. Much of it is flowing out under its own pressure. In the early days this was how people even knew where to look - oil simply ran out onto the ground.
As the field becomes extracted, or doesn't flow into the cut you've made, you need additional measures to get that oil out. That means drilling additional wells, pumping gases or water into the ground to create pressure, etc. This costs more money. Eventually, you are spending a lot of money to get out a little bit of oil, and you give up. The field might still have oil in it, but it's become too expensive to get it out. Can you get it out later when (if) technology is invented to get it more economically? Sure, but not as cheap as when you first started.
In simplistic terms: When you first tap a field, it costs next to nothing to get the oil out. Much of it is flowing out under its own pressure. In the early days this was how people even knew where to look - oil simply ran out onto the ground.
As the field becomes extracted, or doesn't flow into the cut you've made, you need additional measures to get that oil out. That means drilling additional wells, pumping gases or water into the ground to create pressure, etc. This costs more money. Eventually, you are spending a lot of money to get out a little bit of oil, and you give up. The field might still have oil in it, but it's become too expensive to get it out. Can you get it out later when (if) technology is invented to get it more economically? Sure, but not as cheap as when you first started.
Perhaps Oil_Rocks has accepted my challenge of finding a way to suck a bowling ball through a straw, I hope he doesn't hurt himself.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil
by clueless » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 14:41:56
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n simplistic terms: When you first tap a field, it costs next to nothing to get the oil out. Much of it is flowing out under its own pressure. In the early days this was how people even knew where to look - oil simply ran out onto the ground.
Maybe Oil_Rocks is one of those advocates of blasting underground oil deposits with nukes to soften up the oil -I hope he doesn't try that with the bowling ball and garden hose.
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