[mercurygirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat if humans cast aside processed foods and saturated fats in favour of the sort of diet our ape-like ancestors once ate? Nine volunteers gave it a go... and were glad they did so.

[Tanada]

Not exactly what you could call a new idea. The food allowed sounds a lot like what any nutritionist would tell you, lots of fruits and vegetables, low grain intake, moderate meat/fish intake.

Yes Humans live healthiest with a widely varied spectrum of food sources instead of monocrops of any sort. '8O'

[TWilliam]

Ooooo twelve whole days. Hardly a valid test...

Try eating that way for fifteen or twenty years and see where it gets you.

If you're genuinely interested in looking deeper than the standard veggie propaganda (which I did, which is why I abandoned the practice after more than 12 years), then work your way through this site for starters...

[mercurygirl]

Yeah, these people are a little behind. Probably, the beneficial results were more about getting off the processed foods. Raw and vegan may be better for detox than a permanent diet, IMO. I do believe we do best with some appropriate animal foods. They did note some introduced animal foods. Twelve days is pretty brief.

TWilliam, thanks for the link. It's fascinating and will continue reading.
Went veg myself for a time some years ago. Have considered it again out of concern for having clean food and conservation aspects. But I think what's needed is a local source of clean animal food, which isn't easy. I will be getting some chickens soon.

[holmes]

Your ingrained hive mentality is showing. I eat 95% raw diet and have increased all of my youthful aspects. deaged myself so to speak. I feel like a new person inside and out. and look and feel it as well. I back the raw diet for an entire lifetime. When i go back to the old diet of death i am going into the coffin. I eat 5% cooked foods and very rarely if ever touch dairy, vinegar and wheat death monocrops GMO gut bloat. I want more people to eat the death food tho to reduce human biomass. Colon, testicular and ovary cancers will take care of alot. Its an crazy difference in my health when I eat processed junk. In fact read up. Our teeth and jaw do not break down food properly anymore due to the processed food weve been eating now for generations. Im trying to get my jaw and teeth back from the Borg. Its not easy. also less energy is used in the raw diet. No need for a stove, processing facilities and your eating at the bottom of the food chain. Not perfect but what choice es do we have right now?

[holmes]

I weighed 200 pounds last christmas. went 90% raw and now weigh 170-175 pounds lean and mean. fast, nimble and loose. Face is lean and younger than when I was 21. The best "diet" out there. all the others I laugh at. They are all ponzi schemes. Suckers continue to buy into this PC BS.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', 'Y')eah, these people are a little behind. Probably, the beneficial results were more about getting off the processed foods. Raw and vegan may be better for detox than a permanent diet, IMO. I do believe we do best with some appropriate animal foods. They did note some introduced animal foods. Twelve days is pretty brief.

TWilliam, thanks for the link. It's fascinating and will continue reading.
Went veg myself for a time some years ago. Have considered it again out of concern for having clean food and conservation aspects. But I think what's needed is a local source of clean animal food, which isn't easy. I will be getting some chickens soon.

[Neargone]

Holmes. I try to eat only foods that do not come in a box or can. I have read a little about eating raw. From what I gather, cooking destroys enzymes and vitamins. What bothers me is my concern about consuming some sort of living parasite, like hook worm, or something. Any discussions I have read about this either brush it off, or say don't eat raw pork. What are you're thoughts about this?

I have been eating low carb for 3 years now. Many people think it is a bad diet, but really, it removes most of the processed foods. I started at 210, lost 30 lbs and have no problem keeping it off since. My belief is that the more natural the food is, the better it is for you. This can be tough to do with the way our food is grown or raised. But, it is certainly better than all the processed stuff out there with all the questionable chemicals. The only things I eat raw are the veggies. I do eat my steaks rare though.

One thing that I do that comes close to raw is dehydrating different meats at 105 F. My jerkies are extremely dry. I do this for the preservation qualities of very low moisture. Most of the beef jerky that I make has no spices or chemicals of any kind, and is used to make pemmican. The other jerkies of beef, salmon or chicken I carry as snacks, and is spiced.

If you have any reliable info or website links on eating raw, I would be interested. Many people that eat raw talk about how much better they feel and how good their hair and skin looks. A lot of my friends and relatives think I go a little over board with the concern of eating processed foods. Most agree with what I say, but find it hard to remove their favorite junk foods forever. Eating raw would probably make them think I am truly nuts.

[AWPrime]

Some foods raw and some foods cooked/baked (whatever).

And I don't use a microwave.


That is good enough for me.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'O')oooo twelve whole days. Hardly a valid test...

Try eating that way for fifteen or twenty years and see where it gets you.

If you're genuinely interested in looking deeper than the standard veggie propaganda (which I did, which is why I abandoned the practice after more than 12 years), then work your way through this site for starters...

[BlisteredWhippet]

Check this out:

Michael Pollan - Unhappy Meals

Brilliant.

Right now I've been reading some plant ID books with ethnobotanical commentaries and am struck by how varied the indigenous diet was. I'm actually contemplating scraping the inner bark off some trees around here to taste the goodness.

I think people assume veg.ism is as simple as any other diet. Not true. The only simple diet is one where you basically try eating everything in physical proximity. Thats a primordial impulse... and being surrounded by shit food, many fall for it. Including me... I had a shit dinner tonight. Eating out sucks.

[mercurygirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', 'R')ight now I've been reading some plant ID books with ethnobotanical commentaries and am struck by how varied the indigenous diet was. I'm actually contemplating scraping the inner bark off some trees around here to taste the goodness.

[username]

Veganism is dangerous and lacking in many ways for a long-term diet. For example, anemia, caused by B12 deficiency, is a problem for vegans who do not take vitamin supplements. Indians don't have as much of a problem most likely because they don't clean their food as much and thus get B12 from bacteria in the soil. Vegans have only one choice when it comes to a truly "natural" vegan diet -- eat dirt.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'L')ook at some of the longest lived cultures. They generally eat at least 90-99% plant foods.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('username', 'V')eganism is dangerous and lacking in many ways for a long-term diet. For example, anemia, caused by B12 deficiency, is a problem for vegans who do not take vitamin supplements. Indians don't have as much of a problem most likely because they don't clean their food as much and thus get B12 from bacteria in the soil. Vegans have only one choice when it comes to a truly "natural" vegan diet -- eat dirt.